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    iKoria Spoilers: Godzilla is a creature now

    The day is here! The day we learn how Maro has killed magic this time. Will it be just be mechanics ported from silver sets? Will it be with power overwhelming? Find out today with iKoria Spoilers!

    Quick facts:
    Mutate is Bestow, but worse.
    Godzilla and pals are in the set as altered-arts for those of you who'd rather cast Godzilla instead of A Big Creature Named Zzzydothxy
    Ability counters work like you think they would.
    Cycling is back, baby!
    Companion is commander for non-edh play. You get a companion, and you can cast them once from the command zone, but they come with deck building restrictions.
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    Re: iKoria Spoilers: Godzilla is a creature type now

    Love this absolute nonsense countdown right now. Seriously.
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    The godzilla card is real? Gotta be some silver border thing.

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    Re: iKoria Spoilers: Godzilla is a creature type now

    Quote Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit View Post
    The godzilla card is real? Gotta be some silver border thing.
    Didn't look like it.

    Also:


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    Re: iKoria Spoilers: Godzilla is a creature type now

    Mutate:


    Also missed capturing it, but the Godzilla things seem to just be other cards by different names?
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    My inner child absolutley loves all of this.
    100% will be building at least 1 theme deck.

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    Yep, Godzilla stuff is just creatures with "different names" but still the same name for deck-build purposes:
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    Re: iKoria Spoilers: Godzilla is a creature type now

    Showing the ability counters and Godzilla theme:
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    So I think nightmares are a tribe in this set. I saw the Nightmare Pangolin (a 1/4 draft fodder)

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    Re: iKoria Spoilers: Godzilla is a creature type now

    Another companion card:
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    Re: iKoria Spoilers: Godzilla is a creature type now

    Probably irrelevant but more creatures with Cycling now:


    But there are Godzilla versions of uncommons too, apparently:
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    Sort of like Lightning Rift, but kind of worse and kind of better (ok, strictly worse, but at least they appear to be remotely trying)

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    Re: iKoria Spoilers: Godzilla is a creature type now

    Any rules aficionados want to speculate on how Companion and Mutate work?

    Mutate looks like you start with any non-human creature, then add mutate cards too it. I'm guessing the P/T on the underlaying cards are ignored and the creature has it's base states and abilities plus all the abilities on the cards shown under it?

    Companion is completely beyond me though... Do you reveal your entire deck before the start of the game to prove the Companion condition is true?

    Edit - As of right now, hybrid mana symbols only appear in the casting cost of Companions and the mutate cost of some creatures. I wonder if that will remain true.

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    Re: iKoria Spoilers: Godzilla is a creature type now

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew View Post
    Any rules aficionados want to speculate on how Companion and Mutate work?

    Mutate looks like you start with any non-human creature, then add mutate cards too it. I'm guessing the P/T on the underlaying cards are ignored and the creature has it's base states and abilities plus all the abilities on the cards shown under it?

    Companion is completely beyond me though... Do you reveal your entire deck before the start of the game to prove the Companion condition is true?

    Edit - As of right now, hybrid mana symbols only appear in the casting cost of Companions and the mutate cost of some creatures. I wonder if that will remain true.
    Mechanics Article goes over Mutate pretty well, but you have the basics right. As for Companion, Matt Tabak is doing a Reddit AMA thing tomorrow that will probably answer that.
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    Re: iKoria Spoilers: Godzilla is a creature type now

    This actually doesn't look like too terrible a card:


    Neat, but 6 mana is too much I think:
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    Re: iKoria Spoilers: Godzilla is a creature type now

    Not terrible impressed with the art direction or flavor right now. Elemental Dinosaur Cat? That shit looks like an Elder Dragon from Monster Hunter.

    Mechanics are kinda meh. Not surprised they're cashing in on the popularity of Commander. Let's see if any of the cards don't have enough restrictions to be actually playable.

    As for the power level, let's wait and see what kind of bullshit WotC has pushed this time as a set seller, just to be banned a few months later.

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    Re: iKoria Spoilers: Godzilla is a creature type now

    Quote Originally Posted by H View Post
    Mechanics Article goes over Mutate pretty well, but you have the basics right. As for Companion, Matt Tabak is doing a Reddit AMA thing tomorrow that will probably answer that.
    Tanks. Mutate seems overly complicated and they jumped through a bunch of hoops to keep it from having the 'Enchant Creature' problems... I'm sure it'll be fine.

    Companion's Commander rules annoy me. No one should ever sit down with more than 100 total cards. Partner commanders mean a deck size of 98... Why does Companion get a pass? /bitching

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    Re: iKoria Spoilers: Godzilla is a creature type now

    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    Not terrible impressed with the art direction or flavor right now. Elemental Dinosaur Cat? That shit looks like an Elder Dragon from Monster Hunter.

    Mechanics are kinda meh. Not surprised they're cashing in on the popularity of Commander. Let's see if any of the cards don't have enough restrictions to be actually playable.

    As for the power level, let's wait and see what kind of bullshit WotC has pushed this time as a set seller, just to be banned a few months later.
    I pretty much agree on all counts there. I do think Mutate is kind of interesting, since it is like Bestow, but minus the blow-out potential. I actually think this set might usher in another low-power phase, but we, of course, will have to wait and see.

    Frankly, Vadrok seems almost close to playable, so who knows...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew View Post
    Any rules aficionados want to speculate on how Companion and Mutate work?

    Mutate looks like you start with any non-human creature, then add mutate cards too it. I'm guessing the P/T on the underlaying cards are ignored and the creature has it's base states and abilities plus all the abilities on the cards shown under it?

    Companion is completely beyond me though... Do you reveal your entire deck before the start of the game to prove the Companion condition is true?

    Edit - As of right now, hybrid mana symbols only appear in the casting cost of Companions and the mutate cost of some creatures. I wonder if that will remain true.
    You have mutate essentially correct.


    Think of companion but for standard: Before each game (So g1, 2 and 3) you decide if you want to reveal a (singular) companion. The companion lives in your SB (the only "outside the game" that's legal in constructed play. Casual is your binder) and you can cast it from there using otherwise normal rules. It's now te 61st card in your deck.
    Now; between games you can sideboard your deck in such a way as to make the companion illegal. If you do you just don't reveal it before that game.
    I assume this also means if you wanted to switch companions between games you could.

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