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    Re: iKoria Spoilers: Godzilla is a creature type now

    Quote Originally Posted by H View Post
    Yeah, my first reaction to the card was to think of a DGA sort of deck where the only things 3-CMC would be Linger Souls and Vindicates.

    You could put Liliana in the sideboard for matchups where you really need it and then bring Lurrus into the maindeck. I mean, no idea if it is "good" but there are a lot of 2-CMC "value" things to be played with this, I think, outside of "combos."
    No no no. Play Liliana. Play Lurrus. Play anything you want.


    This is all the relevant text you need.
    3/2 Lifelink for 3.
    Recast a permanent CMC 2 or less from you graveyard each turn.

    That's it.
    And that's enough.
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    Re: iKoria Spoilers: Godzilla is a creature type now

    Quote Originally Posted by BenBleiweiss View Post
    I love this card, it's going to be a real player in Pioneer and Standard. Is there anything good to do with it in Legacy?
    Seems fun with Hardened Scales and especially Winding Constrictor (which double-dips).

    Question about Lurrus - does this work this way?

    1) Cast something with Lurrus
    2) Bounce it with Karakas
    3) Vial Lurrus back in

    Can you cast another spell from the "new" Lurrus or does the restriction get tracked like land drops?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    Seems fun with Hardened Scales and especially Winding Constrictor (which double-dips).

    Question about Lurrus - does this work this way?

    1) Cast something with Lurrus
    2) Bounce it with Karakas
    3) Vial Lurrus back in

    Can you cast another spell from the "new" Lurrus or does the restriction get tracked like land drops?
    Exactly like land drops. You can cast one permanent. A new one sees you have cast one permanent.

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    Official word on how Ozilith interacts with Modular?
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    Both triggers put counters on something; The Ozolith on itself, modular on the target artifact creature.
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    So just confirming to be absolutely clear: If you have a 1/1 Modular creature, and it dies, you both put a +1/+1 counter on another artifact creature AND put a +1/+1 counter on The Ozolith?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BenBleiweiss View Post
    Ben Bleiweiss
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    Official word on how Ozilith interacts with Modular?
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    Eli Shiffrin
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    Both triggers put counters on something; The Ozolith on itself, modular on the target artifact creature.
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    So just confirming to be absolutely clear: If you have a 1/1 Modular creature, and it dies, you both put a +1/+1 counter on another artifact creature AND put a +1/+1 counter on The Ozolith?
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    Yes
    Now get him to respond to why a Haktos that entered face-down doesn't have protection from all converted mana costs. If he quotes 113.11 remind him that it clearly says only "that part" of the ability cease to function.

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    Re: iKoria Spoilers: Godzilla is a creature type now

    Well Steel Stompy wasn't bad in Legacy, but since that deck runs Chalice and Thorns, I'm not sure a 1-CMC non-creature spell really makes the cut despite how good it is with Modular. But I can see this being quite good with anything running Hardened Scales.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit View Post
    Now get him to respond to why a Haktos that entered face-down doesn't have protection from all converted mana costs. If he quotes 113.11 remind him that it clearly says only "that part" of the ability cease to function.
    You can fight your own battles, good sir. I'm just here to spread the word of our new lord and savior Ozolith ;)

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    You can fight your own battles, good sir. I'm just here to spread the word of our new lord and savior Ozolith ;)
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    Well I can do that now because it's in my yard and I have an LED in play.
    Oh right I'm illiterate and for some reason thought it was 6 mana to flashback. My bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateKing View Post
    No no no. Play Liliana. Play Lurrus. Play anything you want.


    This is all the relevant text you need.
    3/2 Lifelink for 3.
    Recast a permanent CMC 2 or less from you graveyard each turn.

    That's it.
    And that's enough.
    gatekeeper of malakir gets a little better with this (kicker doesn't impact cmc from my understanding). Not sure if that's too cute, but nice value there provided the parts all stick around.

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    Re: iKoria Spoilers: Godzilla is a creature type now

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateKing View Post
    No no no. Play Liliana. Play Lurrus. Play anything you want.


    This is all the relevant text you need.
    3/2 Lifelink for 3.
    Recast a permanent CMC 2 or less from you graveyard each turn.

    That's it.
    And that's enough.
    What makes Lurrus appealing to me is that it is essentially a 3/2 Lifelink 3drop with a relevant grind ability that expands your starting hand size to 8 at the cost of a deckbuilding restriction that may or may not be relevant.

    For example you could have an Abzan deck with mana dorks that you know would always have a 3drop to follow a T1 dork. You can always use Lingering Souls and Green Sun's Zenith, Hexdrinker or Scanvenging Ooze as mana sinks that would act as pseudo CMC3+ cards. There are also cards that pair naturally well with Lurrus such as Qasali Pridemage, Goblin Cratermaker, and Fauna Shaman.
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    As far as Legacy goes, this is just an easy finish for any Fluctuator meme decks that didn't win off the back of Drannith Stinger. But it's a really strong card for Standard, might even make it into Pioneer.

    EDIT: image isn't loading, it's a 2RW Instant that does damage and gains life equal to the number of cycling cards in your graveyard.

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    Re: iKoria Spoilers: Godzilla is a creature type now

    i think any deck running this cat should probably load up on lotus petals. i think it's pretty interesting in steel stompy as well, especially recurring ravagers or walking ballistas.
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    Re: iKoria Spoilers: Godzilla is a creature type now

    Quote Originally Posted by H View Post
    Yeah, my first reaction to the card was to think of a DGA sort of deck where the only things 3-CMC would be Linger Souls and Vindicates.

    You could put Liliana in the sideboard for matchups where you really need it and then bring Lurrus into the maindeck. I mean, no idea if it is "good" but there are a lot of 2-CMC "value" things to be played with this, I think, outside of "combos."
    I also think this could be played as a companion in Death and taxes.
    THe 3 cmc permanents are FLickerwisp (could be charming prince, even if it's not exactly the same card), Sword of fire and Ice and batterskull.
    All the sideboard 3cmc+ cards are non permanents cards (Council, cataclysm, Gideon...).

    I like the idea of having acces to this whenever I want to rebuy thalia (Or remorsfull cleric to hoose the opponent's graveyard). Just need to figure what to do with the stoneforge package (We still have Jitte but we loose flexibility).

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    Re: iKoria Spoilers: Godzilla is a creature type now

    Quote Originally Posted by Tylert View Post
    I also think this could be played as a companion in Death and taxes.
    THe 3 cmc permanents are FLickerwisp (could be charming prince, even if it's not exactly the same card), Sword of fire and Ice and batterskull.
    All the sideboard 3cmc+ cards are non permanents cards (Council, cataclysm, Gideon...).

    I like the idea of having acces to this whenever I want to rebuy thalia (Or remorsfull cleric to hoose the opponent's graveyard). Just need to figure what to do with the stoneforge package (We still have Jitte but we loose flexibility).
    Why would you cut crucial cards from D&T to run it as companion for a single copy? Just run it normally in the deck, as it can be fetched with Recruiter.

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    Re: iKoria Spoilers: Godzilla is a creature type now

    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    Why would you cut crucial cards from D&T to run it as companion for a single copy? Just run it normally in the deck, as it can be fetched with Recruiter.
    Card advantage, but I forgot about recruiter :)
    Yeah, let's run it MD :)

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    Re: iKoria Spoilers: Godzilla is a creature type now

    song of creation looks like an interesting card. really powerful with dredge effects and untap effects. also pretty busted with 0 drops.

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    Re: iKoria Spoilers: Godzilla is a creature type now

    Quote Originally Posted by mistercakes View Post
    song of creation looks like an interesting card. really powerful with dredge effects and untap effects. also pretty busted with 0 drops.

    1GUR

    enchantment

    you may play an additional land on each of your turns.

    whenever you cast a spell, draw 2 cards.

    at the beginning of your end step, discard your hand.
    For reference:


    Maybe something that makes it more worth it to "go bigger" (i.e. mid-range) for RUG.

    Also, Ultimatums are back. Which isn't really news for Legacy, but I do think most of them are just cool cards:



    Both seem pretty well and possibly game ending, but now OP (for EDH and the like).
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    Are there 3 cards that you can search for with Emergent Ultimatum that regardless of what opponent picks any two win you the game together?
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