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    Re: The Fast and Teferius: Core Set 2021

    I felt the same way about Black Vise when I tested it post-unban. It looks strong but ends up being a trap. I really thought this Incinerator card would be better, but your reasoning makes perfect sense.
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    I felt the same way about Black Vise when I tested it post-unban. It looks strong but ends up being a trap. ...
    Adm Ackbar warned us all about that.

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    Stuffy Doll that can be put into play via Lackey/Instigator and can fight other creatures. Not sure if there are any applications for this (especially in Oko Land), but maybe somebody has a tech at hand.



    Stompy mana cost. Aside from that, it curves well into Pridemage, allowing it to attack as a 4/4 on T3, and boosts Brimaz quite a bit. Probably not good enough for Legacy, but a repeatable Naturalize is at least worth a look (although the lack of evasion probably kills it for Eternal formats). Might be cool for Vintage, though, where it can eat Power and Oaths.

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    I would play (read: consider or test) Chandra's Incinerator in delver alongside Fireblast. You have Dreadhorde Arcanist to turn 1 bolt/chain into 5 mana, and you can use fireblast to reduce Chandra's Incinerator to 2 mana potentially with counter backup.

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    Delver has nowhere near enough noncombat dmg to do that. Also not the best idea to turn up burn plan while Uro/Oko are running the format.

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    Re: The Fast and Teferius: Core Set 2021

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    Night of Souls' Betrayal is the obvious parallel. But here you get both positive and negative Karakas interactions along with a 3/2 body.
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    Hmm, decent stats to cost ratio, costing 2 is decent and the activated ability is decent at mitigating the effect of running multiple of these, or Thalias. But still only really for use in Humans or something, maybe.
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    Re: The Fast and Teferius: Core Set 2021

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    Hmm, decent stats to cost ratio, costing 2 is decent and the activated ability is decent at mitigating the effect of running multiple of these, or Thalias. But still only really for use in Humans or something, maybe.
    I can see it in Esper Vial - can save creatures and/or generate more CA with their ETB abilities. Life gain as a side effect is always welcome.

    If you want to be fancy, you could throw a Squee into a deck with her since he's legendary and comes back every turn to create a draw engine. Not necessarily Esper Vial, but a deck with Entomb, Snapcaster, Unearth and her.

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    Re: The Fast and Teferius: Core Set 2021

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    I can see it in Esper Vial - can save creatures and/or generate more CA with their ETB abilities. Life gain as a side effect is always welcome.

    If you want to be fancy, you could throw a Squee into a deck with her since he's legendary and comes back every turn to create a draw engine. Not necessarily Esper Vial, but a deck with Entomb, Snapcaster, Unearth and her.
    Indeed, this is more comparable to Charming Prince in Esper Vial I think. But the up and downsides are totally different. It is hard to say exactly, which is then necessarily better than the other.
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    Re: The Fast and Teferius: Core Set 2021

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    Indeed, this is more comparable to Charming Prince in Esper Vial I think. But the up and downsides are totally different. It is hard to say exactly, which is then necessarily better than the other.
    Why not run a split between both? They can be both fetched with Recruiter.

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    Now that they’ve printed Kaervek, they can unprint Plague Engineer

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    Re: The Fast and Teferius: Core Set 2021

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    Why not run a split between both? They can be both fetched with Recruiter.
    That might be ideal, Jeff's more recent lists tend to run 2 Princes, so that could "easily" become one and one Naimbi. Naimbi plays much nicer with Venser, for example. It plays less nicely with Flickerwisp though, on the other side, or with Strix.

    Hard to say and I'd defer to Jeff to really see where he takes it.
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    Re: The Fast and Teferius: Core Set 2021

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    Hmm, decent stats to cost ratio, costing 2 is decent and the activated ability is decent at mitigating the effect of running multiple of these, or Thalias. But still only really for use in Humans or something, maybe.
    It may not make it playable, but there is serious synergy with Mox Amber.
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    Interesting design

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    Interesting design
    It's nifty, but clunky. They can't do it the other way around because of stuff like isochron scepter

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    Re: The Fast and Teferius: Core Set 2021

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    Interesting design



    Early game utility with Dreadnought, late game combo-killer.
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    Re: The Fast and Teferius: Core Set 2021

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    Interesting design
    Indeed, but I am at a bit of a loss as to what should really be done with the card...



    That sure is a nice set of abilities. But at 5 mana, it is probably just a bit too much.
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    Early game utility with Dreadnought, late game combo-killer.
    Don’t forget that opponent also loses the spell they’re cracking Standstill with (and -1 card to discard).

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    Re: The Fast and Teferius: Core Set 2021

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    Indeed, but I am at a bit of a loss as to what should really be done with the card...



    That sure is a nice set of abilities. But at 5 mana, it is probably just a bit too much.
    That card has Modern Jund written all over it. They have already gotten away from using Dark Confidant and this is just so massive in that kind of mid-range value deck.
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