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    I think we have the first Legacy card from JST

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    Re: Jumpstart Spoilers (Insert Witticism Here)

    Elves T1 now?

    Not sure what else would use it though.
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    Elves with Chalice?
    Though making every Green spell uncounterable must certainly make it applicable in more than just Elves.

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    Elves and Chalice are the obvious interactions, but I want to make something that works with Blood Funnel or Nether World
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cire View Post
    Elves and Chalice are the obvious interactions, but I want to make something that works with Blood Funnel or Nether World
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    Allosaurus Shepherd with Painter for extra fun. :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by H View Post
    Elves T1 now?

    Not sure what else would use it though.
    Maverick and Nic-Fit both will want this as a singleton at least. Ensuring your GSZ's aren't countered will be pretty huge. The closest simulation of this we have is Vexing Shusher, which is much more mana-intensive.

    This set looks pretty damn fun, actually. The idea is to just crack a couple packs, sleeve up, and play right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Safety View Post
    Maverick and Nic-Fit both will want this as a singleton at least. Ensuring your GSZ's aren't countered will be pretty huge. The closest simulation of this we have is Vexing Shusher, which is much more mana-intensive.

    This set looks pretty damn fun, actually. The idea is to just crack a couple packs, sleeve up, and play right?
    In theory, yes, but I think the "optimal" way they said it plays is to open 4 packs, make two decks, then play a match with someone, each player having a game with each deck, or something like that.
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    Re: Jumpstart Spoilers (Insert Witticism Here)

    Quote Originally Posted by Cire View Post
    Elves and Chalice are the obvious interactions, but I want to make something that works with Blood Funnel or Nether World
    Blood Funnel is kinda silly, but Nether World? Sure, why not? Elf Stax with it and Chalice sounds hilarious.

    It's worth pointing out that aside from the Chalice interaction, NO also becomes uncounterable, so you can faceroll now even against countermagic. That it can act as an alternate wincon is just the icing on the cake.

    Wouldn't surprise if the saw an uptick in Plague Engineer usage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    Blood Funnel is kinda silly, but Nether World? Sure, why not? Elf Stax with it and Chalice sounds hilarious.
    Let's do it - some sort of weird Sylvan Plug mix?

    4 GSZ
    4 Allosaurus Shepard
    1 Dryad Arbor
    1 Scavenging Ooze
    1 Courser of Kruphix
    1 Tireless Tracker
    1 Ramunap Excavator
    1 Titania, Protector of Argoth

    2 Abrupt Decay
    2 Assassin's Trophy
    4 Mox Diamond
    4 Chalice of the Void
    4 Green Sun's Zenith
    2 Toxic Deluge
    2 Sylvan Library
    4 Nether World
    2 Mox Diamond

    4 Ancient Tomb
    4 City of Traitors
    12 Lands

    Or maybe more mana dorks to really punch in the early Nether World?
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    Re: Jumpstart Spoilers (Insert Witticism Here)

    Just a note that Nether World is not a card, but Nether Void sure is, .
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    Quote Originally Posted by H View Post
    Just a note that Nether World is not a card, but Nether Void sure is, .
    Lol, yes *facepalm*
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    Lol, yes *facepalm*
    Now, I shall retreat to hoping that could be a "real deck" while also crying to myself that I only own 3, .
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    Re: Jumpstart Spoilers (Insert Witticism Here)

    Yeah this stompy-shell idea seems bad.

    Jamming this into elves that was already running 4 GSZ, 3-4 OUaT, and 3-4 NO seems pretty good though. Seems great with Gaea's Cradle. Chalice in the side may be an interesting option if elves wasn't doing this already (I don't play elves, so maybe they did this already, or maybe it's a dumb suggestion).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColeM View Post
    Yeah this stompy-shell idea seems bad.

    Jamming this into elves that was already running 4 GSZ, 3-4 OUaT, and 3-4 NO seems pretty good though. Seems great with Gaea's Cradle. Chalice in the side may be an interesting option if elves wasn't doing this already (I don't play elves, so maybe they did this already, or maybe it's a dumb suggestion).
    I mean, it could work, but is also a liability. If they kill the Shepherd, or even worse, all your creatures, you are "stuck" behind your own Chalice.

    I guess it might be OK to do vs a fast combo deck, maybe. But in a "typical" Blue Midrange matchup, that doesn't seem like it would win too often.
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    I think you can sort of treat it as a 5 mana "combo" with Nether Void that can be split up into multiple turns (honestly you only really need to get the void down and have the Elf in hand, then next turn after opponent can't do much you play elf plus threat). It doesn't win you the game but it should lock almost everybody else out from doing anything, then you can run big butts and chalice as well to provide a clock for what came before or gets through nether void.
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    Re: Jumpstart Spoilers (Insert Witticism Here)

    I saw a sweet nic-fit deck with 4 nether void, 4 shifting ceratops, 4 abrupt decay, 3 prowling serpopard, vexing shusher, carnage tyrant

    I'm sure the allosaurus shepherd could slot in somewhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by non-inflammable View Post
    I saw a sweet nic-fit deck with 4 nether void, 4 shifting ceratops, 4 abrupt decay, 3 prowling serpopard, vexing shusher, carnage tyrant

    I'm sure the allosaurus shepherd could slot in somewhere
    What about going Bant for 3feri?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    Blood Funnel is kinda silly, but Nether World? Sure, why not? Elf Stax with it and Chalice sounds hilarious.

    It's worth pointing out that aside from the Chalice interaction, NO also becomes uncounterable, so you can faceroll now even against countermagic. That it can act as an alternate wincon is just the icing on the cake.

    Wouldn't surprise if the saw an uptick in Plague Engineer usage.
    Does Elves need Craterhoof anymore? Can you run this in place and Zenith+activate to kill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by non-inflammable View Post
    I saw a sweet nic-fit deck with 4 nether void, 4 shifting ceratops, 4 abrupt decay, 3 prowling serpopard, vexing shusher, carnage tyrant

    I'm sure the allosaurus shepherd could slot in somewhere
    At this point why not run good creatures and leyline?

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    Re: Jumpstart Spoilers (Insert Witticism Here)

    Quote Originally Posted by Watersaw View Post
    Does Elves need Craterhoof anymore? Can you run this in place and Zenith+activate to kill?
    Trample is a significant consideration. Some number of elves across from some number of Baleful Strix would be a bad time, but Craterhoof makes the math easy. Sum power - sum toughness = damage dealt.
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