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    Re: Strixhaven (Back to School[s of Magic] this April)

    OK, I think that is likely enough on the point, there is no real sense in belaboring it since, as far as I can tell, it has nothing to do with Strixhaven at this point.

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    Isn't there supposed to be a c21 spoiler today?
    I want to hold some lore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit View Post
    Isn't there supposed to be a c21 spoiler today?
    I want to hold some lore.
    The spoilers are out and the lore to be held isn't worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit View Post
    Isn't there supposed to be a c21 spoiler today?
    I want to hold some lore.
    The spoilers are out and the lore to be held isn't worth it.
    Huh. This explains a lot of things I guess.

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    Re: Strixhaven (Back to School[s of Magic] this April)

    So is Nic Fit the big winner from Strixhaven? Gets a 1 mana cantrip in Abundant Harvest, a combo win con in Witherbloom Apprentice, a new midrangey sac outlet in Bayou Groff, and a toolbox in Witherbloom Command.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morgan_coke View Post
    So is Nic Fit the big winner from Strixhaven? Gets a 1 mana cantrip in Abundant Harvest, a combo win con in Witherbloom Apprentice, a new midrangey sac outlet in Bayou Groff, and a toolbox in Witherbloom Command.
    I hope so...but honestly, almost every set has a 'this might be ok in nic fit' kind of card. This time I think it will be the real deal though, simply because of Witherbloom Apprentice + Chain of Smog. Having a low-to-the-ground combo win is something Nic Fit could really use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Safety View Post
    I hope so...but honestly, almost every set has a 'this might be ok in nic fit' kind of card. This time I think it will be the real deal though, simply because of Witherbloom Apprentice + Chain of Smog. Having a low-to-the-ground combo win is something Nic Fit could really use.
    Agreed, but I think Abundant Harvest is just as, if not more important, because with GSZ it basically gives you 8 cantrips. And Bayou Groff gives you a GSZ-able sac outlet for Explorer, which is also huge.

    Maybe something like:

    4x Abundant Harvest
    4x Green Sun's Zenith
    4x Cabal Therapy
    4x Chain of Smog
    3x Witherbloom Command
    2x Abrupt Decay
    1x Maelstrom Pulse

    4x Veteran Explorer
    1x Bayou Groff
    2x Witherbloom Apprentice

    2x Sylvan Library

    7x other nic fit things

    22x Lands

    That seems like a reasonable starting point, tons of removal and discard and mana and cantrips, all in a BG shell. Like, I mean, usually when people are like "this is great for Nic Fit" it's some midrangey thing that the deck already has six versions of. This set is comboes and another cantrip, both of which are far more important, imho.

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    Re: Strixhaven (Back to School[s of Magic] this April)

    That looks pretty good! The 7 Nic Fit stuffs that we include will probably include silver bullet cards like Reclamation Sage, Scavenging Ooze, Sylvan Safekeeper, and Eternal Witness. That still leaves 4 slots for some juicy dudes. However (and I don't mean to derail the spoiler thread with too much Nic Fit talk) there is a diminishing return on playing Veteran Explorer without having a massive mana advantage and also utilizing that advantage to go over the top. I think Witherbloom Apprentice will actually result in a new deck build, probably closer to The Rock. You basically have a combo with Apprentice/Chain, which is super compact, and then your dig tools (GSZ, Abundant Harvest, Sylvan Library), then you add your disruption (discard and removal.) By that time, how much room do you really have to include a 'bad' combo like Veteran Explorer/Cabal Therapy? At that point just playing the right amount of lands and Thoughtseize is probably correct. You could even conceivably do a Hogaak-Depths type of hybrid where you have overlapping synergies. Chain of Smog could be a discard outlet for Vengevine/Bloodghast/Gravecrawler/Hogaak that also doubles up as a combo with Apprentice. Simple tools like Unearth and Reanimate can be included to actually make the combo resilient. Kill my Apprentice? Unearth it, take 2. Last thought: I think Allosaurus Shepherd is probably a much better GSZ target than Veteran Explorer.

    TL,DR: It's certainly possible to do Witherbloom stuff with Nic Fit, but there might be a new deck waiting in the tall grass to develop that doesn't need big mana/Veteran Explorer.

    EDIT: My mind is racing with the possibility of using Dark Confidant, Allosaurus Shepherd, and Veil of Summer as well...cheap disruption, cantrips, tutors, discard, even the ability to play Abrupt Decay maindeck with bullet-proof mana. Low curve, all business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Safety View Post
    TL,DR: It's certainly possible to do Witherbloom stuff with Nic Fit, but there might be a new deck waiting in the tall grass to develop that doesn't need big mana/Veteran Explorer.
    I could see something with Mox Diamond and loam so you can combo turn 2 or play the grindy long game.
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    Re: Strixhaven (Back to School[s of Magic] this April)

    Why Mox Diamond when you can just play Lotus Petal? Diamond/Loam takes up slots that probably should be disruption, dig, or just alternative threats.
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