3 cmc creature comboes

[Reeplcheep]

I mentioned this in the nic fit thread, but I want to brew a deck around Seagate stormcaller and neoform.

What is the best combo involving 2 3 cmc creatures? Opposition agent plus merelen is a hard lock if ahead but loses to any removal in hand or a big board. Spike feeder plus heliod is infinite life but both cards are so bad by themselves. Infinite life is also not amazing vs Jtms/oracle/eldrazi...


Surely I’m missing something?

[rufus]

Edit: Cephalid Breakfast is no good.

Double Combat Celebrant can win if you untap but is pretty weak.

You can break past 2 creatures with Dualcaster Mage, but there doesn't seems to be a way to turn a pile of copies of it into a win at cmc3 creatures.

[Reeplcheep]

They have to cost exactly three due to wording of neoform

[Mr. Safety]

It sounds very similar to the old Birthing Pod deck from Modern, which unfortunately requires 3 cards to make it happen (Viscera Seer, Melira, and Murdurous Redcap.)

So if I'm reading this correct, you Neoform a Seagate Stormcaller and get two 'Pod' activations, one that gives you a 3-drop. With no other creatures you get a 4-drop, or you can rip one of your other creatures (I'm assuming a creature-heavy deck) to make a combo. There is a lot of value you can generate, but I don't know about a game winning combo on the spot. Probably the strongest conditional 3-drop is Magus of the Moon. Geralf's Messenger into Thought-Knot Seer seems pretty fun, but not really at legacy power level. There's also the 3-drop elf that tutors a creature card with converted cost 6 or more, can't remember the name...it's a staple in the older Nic Fit lists that played Primeval Titan or Grave Titan as their upper end.

[Reeplcheep]

It sounds very similar to the old Birthing Pod deck from Modern, which unfortunately requires 3 cards to make it happen (Viscera Seer, Melira, and Murdurous Redcap.)

So if I'm reading this correct, you Neoform a Seagate Stormcaller and get two 'Pod' activations, one that gives you a 3-drop. With no other creatures you get a 4-drop, or you can rip one of your other creatures (I'm assuming a creature-heavy deck) to make a combo. There is a lot of value you can generate, but I don't know about a game winning combo on the spot. Probably the strongest conditional 3-drop is Magus of the Moon. Geralf's Messenger into Thought-Knot Seer seems pretty fun, but not really at legacy power level. There's also the 3-drop elf that tutors a creature card with converted cost 6 or more, can't remember the name...it's a staple in the older Nic Fit lists that played Primeval Titan or Grave Titan as their upper end.

The copied neoform copies the values on the first one and does not require an additional sacrifice.
You get 2 3drops no matter what. (Assuming your sacrifice the Seagate instead of some other creature you had already).

[rufus]

It sounds very similar to the old Birthing Pod deck from Modern, which unfortunately requires 3 cards to make it happen (Viscera Seer, Melira, and Murdurous Redcap.)

So if I'm reading this correct, you Neoform a Seagate Stormcaller and get two 'Pod' activations, one that gives you a 3-drop. ...

The sack is part of the cost, so you get two three drops that stay in play. (And, any number of dualcaster mages you want to bring out before that.)

[Mr. Safety]

If that's the case, I think the correct play is double Boggart Ram-Gang. Vroom vroom!

EDIT:Fierce Empath was the card I was trying to remember. If you're doing Nic Fit, having a way to build up fat dudes seems good to me.

[rufus]

I guess you can run dualcasters + clones -> Nantuko Husk + Mogis's Marauder, but that's hardly compelling.

[Reeplcheep]

I guess you can run dualcasters + clones -> Nantuko Husk + Mogis's Marauder, but that's hardly compelling.

I was thinking of this. Glasspool mimic lowers the opportunity cost of running a bunch of clones. But Lutri won’t work so you need three bad, off colour cards at least. Hell raiser goblin plus combat celebrant is an alternative.