[Deck] Iggy Pop

[Anarky87]

I have tested Leyline of the Void though I was running it out of the board. I do think it makes sense in the main deck. I was considering the same move before I stopped playing the deck. While a first turn Leyline is very good against Threshold it doesn't get around the fact that your spells can still be countered. Every Ill-Gotten Gains can still be countered and often you won't have enough spells that they need to counter. They won't counter your acceleration, but will counter or Ill-Gotten Gains or even Intuition to prevent you from continuing the combo. I'm still seeing this deck have trouble with Threshold. Is this incorrect? Has anyone tested the deck recently against Threshold to make this incorrect because of Leyline of the Void.

Well with Leyline neutering most of their threats, I suppose you could just play the accelaration like you said and just go for a couple big Tendrils, working up a storm count of 4-5, then play Tendrils, and use the life gain to setup the next one. I would assume boarding in Defense Grid and Xantid Swarm would help, making their counters/removal cost three more.

I haven't tested this much, I'm just going by what's pointed out in the primer.

[syssc9]

I've been gold fishing Mental Note in the Telling Time/Impulse slot as an aid to quick Threshold. Seems to work great! Any comments?

[AnwarA101]

I've been gold fishing Mental Note in the Telling Time/Impulse slot as an aid to quick Threshold. Seems to work great! Any comments?

The first version of the deck I played was just like the Primer -2 Chromatic Sphere (I think this card is terrible in the deck) and -2 Strategic Planning +4 Mental Note. The reason for Mental Note was not just for Threshold, but also because when you combo off the cards you put in the graveyard can be replayed via Ill-Gotten Gains. I found the card solid, but I agree that Leyline of the Void should be played in that spot instead. Leyline fixes so many of the decks problems mainly the ability to recur spells by your opponent. It also allows you to play Mind Twist for 4 mana.

[Nightmare]

The first version of the deck I played was just like the Primer -2 Chromatic Sphere (I think this card is terrible in the deck) and -2 Strategic Planning +4 Mental Note. The reason for Mental Note was not just for Threshold, but also because when you combo off the cards you put in the graveyard can be replayed via Ill-Gotten Gains. I found the card solid, but I agree that Leyline of the Void should be played in that spot instead. Leyline fixes so many of the decks problems mainly the ability to recur spells by your opponent. It also allows you to play Mind Twist for 4 mana.

Not just Mind Twist, but to RFG your opponent's hand. This is Extremely Important against decks packing Fow. Since I have MD Leyline in my build, I have also added Duress back in, since it can much more effectively clear the way for the Turn 2 Yawgmoth's Mindtwist. I've also cut down on the Fetchland count to add in 3 Chrome Mox. These have been amazing in testing. They allow for more free storm at worst, and get rid of extra Leylines that otherwise clog your hand for Infernal Tutor.

[AnwarA101]

Not just Mind Twist, but to RFG your opponent's hand. This is Extremely Important against decks packing Fow. Since I have MD Leyline in my build, I have also added Duress back in, since it can much more effectively clear the way for the Turn 2 Yawgmoth's Mindtwist. I've also cut down on the Fetchland count to add in 3 Chrome Mox. These have been amazing in testing. They allow for more free storm at worst, and get rid of extra Leylines that otherwise clog your hand for Infernal Tutor.

If a deck is playing Force of Will then it should probably Force your Ill-Gotten Gains if you have a Leyline of the Void in play. If you are able to go off after that then it might work, but don't kid yourself - Force of Will is still bad news. Playing Duress in the main deck still seems like a mistake because it removes another combo or search spell to play a disruption spell that only works with Leyline of the Void.

[Bane of the Living]

Not just Mind Twist, but to RFG your opponent's hand. This is Extremely Important against decks packing Fow. Since I have MD Leyline in my build, I have also added Duress back in, since it can much more effectively clear the way for the Turn 2 Yawgmoth's Mindtwist. I've also cut down on the Fetchland count to add in 3 Chrome Mox. These have been amazing in testing. They allow for more free storm at worst, and get rid of extra Leylines that otherwise clog your hand for Infernal Tutor.

Wow Chrome Mox is such a good idea. Did you cut out actual fetch lands or other cards?

[syssc9]

@AnwarA101 - I am also running Leyline and would not be without the card in this deck. In fact I just built the deck last weekend and my initial build includes it. Early this morning I replaced Telling Time with Mental Note and I see direct improvement. Faster, more reliable threshold and a quicker kill. The fist three times I goldfished this deck, I was had Leyline and IGG in my opening hand and enough acceleration to cast it (IGG). That has to hurt, wrestling fans!

[AnwarA101]

@AnwarA101 - I am also running Leyline and would not be without the card in this deck. In fact I just built the deck last weekend and my initial build includes it. Early this morning I replaced Telling Time with Mental Note and I see direct improvement. Faster, more reliable threshold and a quicker kill. The fist three times I goldfished this deck, I was had Leyline and IGG in my opening hand and enough acceleration to cast it (IGG). That has to hurt, wrestling fans!

So what card have you cut to play both Leyline and Mental Note? I only had spot for 1 one of those two cards. I imagine that you cut Impulse/Telling Time slot? That seems okay, but I really think that Infernal Tutor needs to go into that spot. I'm going to start testing the new build suggested by the creator -

4 Tendrils of Agony
4 Ill-Gotten Gains
4 Intuition
4 Infernal Tutor
4 Mystical Tutor
4 Brainstorm
4 Dark Ritual
4 Cabal Ritual
4 Lion's Eye Diamond
4 Lotus Petal
4 Leyline of the Void
1 Echoing Truth
4 Flooded Strand
4 Polluted Delta
3 Island
2 Swamp
2 Underground Sea