[Discussion] Bringing Out the Dead - Underplayed Cards

[TheInfamousBearAssassin]

Was going through some old cards and came across a couple that I felt were worth dusting off and reconsidering.


Card Name: Nova Pentacle (AQ)
Card type: Artifact
Casting cost: 4
Oracle text: 3, Tap: The next time a source of your choice would deal damage to you this turn, that damage is dealt to target creature of an opponent’s choice instead.



- Can shut down attacking waves a creature at a time, unless those waves are multiple Mongeese.



Card Name: Disharmony (LG)
Card type: Instant
Casting cost: 2R
Oracle text: Play Disharmony only during combat before the declare blockers step.
Untap target attacking creature. Gain control of that creature until end of turn.



- I'm thinking this could shine particularly in U/R Landstill, creating 2-for-1s, and giving the deck a cheap answer to untargetable and pro-red guys... assuming they have friends that aren't those things.




Card Name: Fire Covenant (IA)
Card type: Instant
Casting cost: 1BR
Oracle text: As an additional cost to play Fire Covenant, pay X life.
Fire Covenant deals X damage divided as you choose among any number of target creatures.


Diefendorf already sides this in his Zoo deck, but no one else seems to know it exists. Cheap, instant speed potential four-for-ones are powerful in aggro or aggro-control decks, even at a hefty life cost. It certainly kicks Goblins in the nutz.

[Rastadon]

Ahm gettin' bettah! I feeel happy!

Nova Pentacle doesn't shut down a wave a creatures, only one or two at max. Source = 1.

Equinox is a card that I feel could be very strong against Ruination and non Waste non basic hate.

[Evil Roopey]

I think Waylay is a very underplayed card. Even after it's errata, it's a 3 for 1 against Goblins, and can take down a Werebear and block another. Seems strong to me.

[Koby]

Firestorm is severly needing a deck to abuse. It's amazingly strong in Life from the Loam decks -- but said decks lacks focus.

[kirdape3]

Disharmony is cute, but Ray of Command is in a base color and makes Disharmony look awfully terrible. Nobody plays Ray of Command, either.

Doesn't Zoo/(R/x) aggro just run a billion protection men for the mirror matchups? Silver Knight and Paladin en-Vec don't particularly care about the Covenant, and those are the creatures you'd need to tag, no?

[martyr]

Firestorm is severly needing a deck to abuse. It's amazingly strong in Life from the Loam decks -- but said decks lacks focus.

Enter Hellbent(+Madness+Flashback+Threshold).

Something like:

4x Jagged Poppet
4x Dark Confidant
4x Nimble Mongoose
4x Werebear

4x Duress
4x Terminate?
4x Firestorm
4x Rancor
4x Taste for Mayhem

I dunno. There are so many good cards with so many possible synergies that it'll be a bit before we work out the ideal Hellbent/Madness/Threshold/Flashback deck, but god will it be ridiculous when we do.

[Evil Roopey]

Enter Hellbent(+Madness+Flashback+Threshold).

Something like:

4x Jagged Poppet
4x Dark Confidant
4x Nimble Mongoose
4x Werebear

4x Duress
4x Terminate?
4x Firestorm
4x Rancor
4x Taste for Mayhem

I dunno. There are so many good cards with so many possible synergies that it'll be a bit before we work out the ideal Hellbent/Madness/Threshold/Flashback deck, but god will it be ridiculous when we do.

I've been working on it. Hellbent seems lacking in the deck though. There is no real reason to ruin your manabase for a couple decent cards.

[Brushwagg]

Well a few of my favorites:

Lim-Dul's Vault:So good but hasn't really seen any play since Dragon.

Avoid Fate:Thank you 6th Edition rules.

Sword of the Ages:A little expensive. Mass tokens anyone?

Jester's Mask:Again a little expensive but a bomb if it hits.

[parallax]

Lim-Dul's Vault:So good but hasn't really seen any play since Dragon.

Avoid Fate:Thank you 6th Edition rules.

@Vault: Agreed, but it's only really great in non-storm combo decks. Which we don't have many of.

@Avoid Fate: WTF does 6th Ed. have to do with this card? And wtf would you play it in? In fact, wtf all around on this one.

[Lego]

Lim-Dul's Vault:So good but hasn't really seen any play since Dragon.

Except in Ninja Gaiden

[MattH]

@Vault: Agreed, but it's only really great in non-storm combo decks. Which we don't have many of.

@Avoid Fate: WTF does 6th Ed. have to do with this card? And wtf would you play it in? In fact, wtf all around on this one.

It originally only countered enchantments and interrupts (and the only interrupts it could counter were REB/BEB and the Laces). Now it counters instants too.

[Nightmare]

As for Jester's Mask, the card is godawful. It takes a bajillion mana to play, then it takes a whole turn to get it active, then it doesn't even win the game. I'd rather have Cap in every situation, and even Cap sucks in Legacy.

[Phantom]

It originally only countered enchantments and interrupts (and the only interrupts it could counter were REB/BEB and the Laces). Now it counters instants too.

In the same vein, I always thought Burnout could be a solid card now. Card advantage + disruption vs. Thresh/Solidarity.

[Hoojo]

I'm currently working on a way to abuse Unearth. Not ground breaking, but it may have some neat tricks with Troll or Eternal Witness.

[Brushwagg]

As for Jester's Mask, the card is godawful. It takes a bajillion mana to play, then it takes a whole turn to get it active, then it doesn't even win the game. I'd rather have Cap in every situation, and even Cap sucks in Legacy.

Like I said it's expensive. But giving your opponent all lands in their hand can win games. Will I ever play it in Legacy no, it's just an old card that use to be really good.

@Avoid Fate:It's a Green counterspell. Yes it's kind of narrow but it does stop STP. I've played it in the last 6 months or so, SB in The Game, and my opponents have gone, "WTF??!!!"

Found another one.

Rainbow Efreet:With 2 Blue mana open really hard to kill. Just phase out in response to whatever might kill it.

[MasterBlaster]

I'd love to see Crop Rotation used in some deck. With Serra's Sanctum, Cabal Coffers, and Gaea's Cradle you would think it could be easily abusable. It could also see use as a sort of counter to Wasteland.

[Lego]

I'm currently working on a way to abuse Unearth. Not ground breaking, but it may have some neat tricks with Troll or Eternal Witness.

Reanimate Volrath's Shapeshifter with it

Rainbow Efreet

We're talking about really bad MUC decks on one of the threads, check out the pile I recently posted. He's the win condition

[Watcher487]

@Avoid Fate: WTF does 6th Ed. have to do with this card? And wtf would you play it in? In fact, wtf all around on this one.

@Avoid Fate:It's a Green counterspell. Yes it's kind of narrow but it does stop STP. I've played it in the last 6 months or so, SB in The Game, and my opponents have gone, "WTF??!!!"

I used to play it in Survival (Both FEB and CSJ) It was really good for the random surprise. The big thing is that it protects a permenant that you control so even though it looks narrow it does nail down alot of stuff especially in alot of the un-conventual matchups. (ie. Solidarity, Rifter, and Burn.)

[bigredmeanie]

Originally Posted by Hoojo

I'm currently working on a way to abuse Unearth. Not ground breaking, but it may have some neat tricks with Troll or Eternal Witness.

Reanimate Volrath's Shapeshifter with it

If your going to use Survival and Shapeshifter just use Reanimate. besides, it comes into play as a Shapeshifter, because the reanimate/unearth spell is what's on top.

[dahcmai]

I used Angus Mackenzie for style points to replace my spike weaver for laughs. lol


Arboria and Land Equilibrium are still begging to be broken. You'd think it would be possible by now with all the new cards since then.


Land Equilibrium + Ghost Quarter = OMG Combo lmao