I'm really intrigued by Krosan Grip, mainly the 'split second' ability. If I'm reading this right, that makes it an uncounterable Naturalize. I'd pony up the extra mana for that. Of course, it'll still get countered by Chalice, but who sets a chalice at 3? I sort of think they should have named the mechanic 'Interrupt', just because that's totally what this is (I mean, a spell you can't respond to? Yeah).
Grapeshot looks promising. It's waaay better than Scattershot at least.
And the omni-fetchland is the bees knees, no matter what anyone says. Just look at the art! So....beautiful.....
And I think it's great that they're bringing back all the old mechanics. So far it looks like it's just Oddessey/Onslaught (flashback, morph, storm), but I really hope they go farther than that. There have been tons of times where I thought, 'man, I wish there was a card with <insert keyword ability here> that worked like this...too bad it won't ever come back now that it's printed'.
I'm just looking for a card with Scry 3, or 4 even. It would be great.
This just made my day .
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Originally Posted by Slay
Not even with Clamp legal.Kobold Clamp will be viable
As far as Split Second or whatever the hell you want to call it, it's the same as "Can't be Countered by spells or effects". Looks like they just made it into a keyword. Who cares, I highly doubt anything really good is going to printed with this on it.
As far as bringing back the old keywords that's cool. I would really like to see some new Madness and Theshold stuff.
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I want a card that's 1U or even 1UU, Storm. Draw a card. Or R, Storm. Deal 1 or 2.
No it is not the same as can't be countered it is better. Have you not played against one of the best decks in the format which essentially does everything in response to what you do, the deck is all instants! I know personally I have gotten quite tired of playing a spell and then solidarity winning in response without even bothering to counter it, they just never let it resolve. I really hope that they have a good card with split second on it that stops solidarity. Because that is the problem with solidarity, no matter what you play, no matter how devistating, and even if it was uncounterable, solidarity can simply win in response and never let your fucking spell resolve.
Originally Posted by Parcher
The reason SS is better than "Can't be countered" is that your opponent can't respond to it at all. A Lightning Bolt with SS, for instance, could be cast on a Goblin Welder who could then not weld anything in before he died. It has the potential to be way too powerful, so I don't expect anything aggressively costed with the keyword.
A Shock with SS would be...
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Deal 2 Damage to target creature or player, As long as this is on the stack non-mana spells/abilities can't be played.
I'd say that's not going to happen, either it could be overcosted or only target creatures and still probobaly cost atleast 2.
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Split Second is their way of reprinting interrupts.
Man, I am really, really looking forward to this block. More then Ravnica. Way more then Coldsnap. Bring on the good old days! I like the feel we have now...Ravnica was like Invasion, but with a modern twist. Then Coldsnap was Ice Age, again, modernized. I like that this covers a ton of old stuff, not just one block. Merfolk! Yes! Time to go dust off the Lords of Atlantis.
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Heh, I thought of the same mechanic ("Swift" "This spell doesn't use the stack."), seems like it's fairly intuitive. Nice to see it getting printed. I find my version more elegant though. And Merfolk are back (Lord of Atlantis finally getting its errata?) and most importantly, KOBOLDS! Seems like majority of the mechanics thus far are from Onslaught/Odyssey though. And red storm-card that doesn't cost 9 seems pretty good. Could be actually usable.
Interrupts are back.
And this makes them uncaunterable too!
Pretty BAD!
Yeah, no more Aluren winning in response to Naturalize, EVER!!!! I know you guys were getting scared of Aluren... I guess we'll all be safe now.
That split second naturalize also seems like it will be fairly powerful against scepter chant. Since they have no way to stop you from destroying the scepter. Also running it in survival decks, or at least in the board seems good. Becuase with that thresh decks can't let survival resolve even if they got a needle out on it already. It also is very good against survival since they can't go tutor up a witness in respone to you destroying it. I am really very pleased with the split second ability. Most of all because it was preveiwed on a green card. That seems like an ability wizards might only give to blue, but I'm glad they are printing it on cards that are enemy colors of blue (because this ability hoses blue the most). I think split second it a wonderful ability and it really stops so many things, so many things are broken in this format cause your opponent can do stuff in response, it really will help keep power levels in check.
Originally Posted by Parcher
Argh, I already hate Split Second. :(
Solidarity is not overpowered... It's a decent combo deck. I hope they won't print any unfair Split Second spells that makes Solidarity unviable... :(
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what do you guys think about this new ability Suspend? and Lotus Bloom, its like Black Lotus, but it comes out three turns later. It just seems interesting.
Yes, killing scepter is going to be ,well, easy, with an uncounterable kill, and with activated abilities being squashed type card being around. The question is , what are the other colors going to get? Red, very likely a dd spell. We know green is getting a destroy card, black will likely get a destroy card. White will get a prevent damage card, or a put tokens into play sorcery, blue will get a sorcery speed card draw. The rarity will be interesting as well. The green one is uncommon. Naturalize is a common. Is it just that much better?
Where did you get this info on this keyword and this "lotus" type card?
(A link would be nice) Forget it, found it, HOLY CRAP a new lotus. Mind is churning how to abuse that card, second sunrise sounds really good.
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