If they print any reasonably cheap white Split Second card I'll be happy. Abeyance + Split Second mid-combo? Eat it, Mike Herbig, and find it delicious.
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I very much doubt that the white split card will be an abeyance/chant effect.Originally Posted by SpatulaOfTheAges
That would be sweet.
But what I meant was 1st cast Abeyance, then cast [white split second card].
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Don't start creaming your pants over Split Second at the Solidarity hoser just yet.
Using your above example, someone would respond in game by saying, "Ok, your White Split Second card resolves. Now I go off in your face while Abeyance is on the stack."
Lego Army Man and Ridiculous Hat have it right, it's like Interrupt. Just let it resolve and Solidarity goes about it's business.
Because if it was, this mechanic would be total bullshit - as in, WAY too good.
I think every Thresh player should be drooling right about now. Thresh already beats Solidarity, so it doesn't need a new interrupt counterspell. What Thresh loses to is...(Mr. Elgin?), that's right; Pernicious Deed. Krosan Grip in the side instead of Naturalize says, "Deed This!". Piggies and 'Dozers are trembling in fear.
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I believe you've confused Elgins. IBA is the one that makes decks like Train Wreck and Truffle Shuffle.
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No. Though IBA fears nothing, he was the one the comment was directed at, in a rhetorical way. Spat plays Survival more than Thresh anyway. Though nuking Survival before they can activate it is good times as well.
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Ok. I just figured your comment was directed toward Spat since he had posted in the thread.
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Ummm I think if IBA has any opinion on this card he is like, "Fucking Sweet". Having played a Legacy deck with Deed in it before I can say not much sucks more then having some douche-bag Needle your Deed then having to destroy it before Deed works again through Counterspell backup. Enter Grip... Now you have an uncounterable Naturalize for Needle. So you can play Deed and activate it before passing priority still (usually turn 4-5 against Thresh) with the downside being that they can now Naturalize your Top and you can't pass priority with Deed in play and expect to activate it in response to problems. On a related note this seems that it will make green a more popular splash in Goblins which should make IBA happy since Armageddon can tend to suck for him.
Perhaps we should ask him.
EDIT-
You mean like a 3 mana Naturalize. I would say we already have an aggressively costed SS card.so I don't expect anything aggressively costed with the keyword.
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Yeah, you're right for the most part. The problem I have had is more when it's later in the game, and I have less countermagic due to exhaustion and discard. This is when these decks actually have enough mana to play and activate Deed in the same turn. Having an extra answer in addition to Needle seems like it would help. I've never seen Wreck or Truffle use Naturalize to begin with, so I've never had to deal with countering it on a Needle. Still, if they Grip Needle, untap, and play Deed, you can counter it just as easily, as they have left your hand untouched for at least two turns.
EDIT: Frigging Survival runs Naturalize in the sideboard. This will make Needle much less frightening for them. Poop.:(
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No can do sir. You cast Abeyance and before passing priority play the split second card. Abeyance resolves first then the other thing and the solidarity player never has a chance.
What?! That's not how the stack works. If you play abayence then you play the split second card, the split second card resolves before abayance, then your opponent can do stuff with abayance on the stack. The only way split second affect solidarity, is if the split second card itself has an impact on solidarity.
And I am not gushing over the ability hosing solidarity because of comboing with abayence (which it doesn't), I am gushing over the ability in hopes that they are printing a card with split second that crushes solidarity. I'm not gushing over a card, just the hopes of a card, that is how much I want to see it.
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Oh come on that was a full 8 minutes after his post, 8 MINUTES! That is slow as balls for me. Yuo had plenty of time to beat me too it.
Aside from the Split Second ability, I noticed something else on Krosan Grip that I found intriguing. The flavor text. The quote is contributed to a Kamahlite druid. At first I thought this was just another race that Wizards thought up, but then I realized it was based on the name Kamahl. He has his own druids now! I wonder if other orders of people developed from Onslaught block legends. I can't wait to see Ixidorans, Phagites, and Akromanauts running around! In all seriousness though, this nostalgia rocks my fucking socks.
I hope they bring back slivers. Again :D.
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I am so psyched that Green is finally getting some new tools. It's the most under appreciated color and it's about time Wizards gave 'em a solid boost.
Hell, I just want something in Green with SS that ruins solidarity so I can play Trainwreck.
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Wow, seems everyone in here hates Solidarity. Not without good reason, but still.
@Rastadon: Are there slivers in the spoiler? You're sure they're bringing them back?
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Okay, let's face it guys, when Solidarity goes away, people will just start playing Iggy Pop. So what we really need is a Split Second card that reads something like, "For the rest of the game, treat cards with Storm as if they didn't have it" then we're all set, no?
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