Sea Drakes!

[JeremM]

I was looking at Rebecca Guay's website and was reading the signing information. Is the info still accurate? It would be neat as hell to have a signed set of them.

[Vardaman]

Sea Drake doesn't really seem that good. $110 for a playset is obscene.

[mikekelley]

A blue 4/3 flyer for three is obscene.

I don't think that this card will ever be reprinted. It's really wacky in a few ways.

[Zilla]

I don't think that this card will ever be reprinted. It's really wacky in a few ways.

If they don't, they're painting themselves into a corner in the same way that they have with Vintage. If entire archetypes are delegitimized based on card availability alone, then you end up with tournament organizers having to make difficult decisions about whether to hold sanctioned tournaments or allow proxies so people are able to play the decks they want to play. This isn't even so much an issue of cost as it is an eventual total unavailability of certain cards. It's already difficult to find Sea Drakes at any cost. If decks that run them get more popular, they'll literally be impossible to find. If it comes to that point, they ought to either reprint or remove the card from the format entirely.

[Mirrislegend]

Isn't that a little extreme Zilla? To remove a card from the game just because its hard to get?

[Tao]

Isn't that a little extreme Zilla? To remove a card from the game just because its hard to get?

The logic is correct. In a competitive format a player should be able to play the deck he considers as the best deck to win a tournament.

[Shadow]

Isn't that a little extreme Zilla? To remove a card from the game just because its hard to get?

Wizards has said that Bazaar, Workshop, and Drain are all partially banned because of the cost.

[AnwarA101]

Wizards has said that Bazaar, Workshop, and Drain are all partially banned because of the cost.

They are primarily banned because their power level is very high and very distorting to a format. Workshop makes Stax instantly viable. Bazaar is a crazy draw engine that can't be countered. Drain is counterspell + dark ritual in one card. They might be banned partially for price, but I think they are way over the line anyway in terms of being balanced cards for this format.

[Ta Jugs]

On top of that I dont think wizards will ban a card for price ever again

[Tacosnape]

I sort of agree with Zilla, actually, although only to a point. Cards like Drop of Honey, Moat, and The Abyss are incredibly strong in the right decks, but probably don't warrant removal based on their inability to dominate a format, but certainly don't warrant reprinting, as the entire world of collectors would explode in a big fiery ball (that was visible...from space. Poor Pom-Pom.)

Cards like Sea Drake, however, wouldn't be ridiculously blasphemous to reprint down the line. In fact, there should really be a set, not legal in standard or extended, that consists entirely of reprints of some of the top Legacy/Vintage non-broken staples. This could include simpler stuff like Duress, STP (Props to the coldsnap pre-cons), and Armageddon, as well as more difficult stuff like Cursed Scroll, Sea Drake, the Fetchlands, and so forth.

Time will help, as wizards has done a fair job of getting some cards (Like Hypnotic Specter) into circulation. But if an eternal format is ever going to thrive and wizards wants to make money off of it (which should be their driving motivation for anything), a reprint set with purple symbols might be interesting.

[Ta Jugs]

They did after all reprint tidings in 9th ed which became a very powerful card in type 2. However it is one of the only cards originally printed in portal to be reprinted. I highly dought that they will reprint sea drake because it may be too powerful of a card in type 2. With incinerate and volcanic hammer soon to be in the format maybe. They almost reprinted thunder dragon after all.

[TheDarkshineKnight]

I sort of agree with Zilla, actually, although only to a point. Cards like Drop of Honey, Moat, and The Abyss are incredibly strong in the right decks, but probably don't warrant removal based on their inability to dominate a format, but certainly don't warrant reprinting, as the entire world of collectors would explode in a big fiery ball (that was visible...from space. Poor Pom-Pom.)

Cards like Sea Drake, however, wouldn't be ridiculously blasphemous to reprint down the line. In fact, there should really be a set, not legal in standard or extended, that consists entirely of reprints of some of the top Legacy/Vintage non-broken staples. This could include simpler stuff like Duress, STP (Props to the coldsnap pre-cons), and Armageddon, as well as more difficult stuff like Cursed Scroll, Sea Drake, the Fetchlands, and so forth.

Time will help, as wizards has done a fair job of getting some cards (Like Hypnotic Specter) into circulation. But if an eternal format is ever going to thrive and wizards wants to make money off of it (which should be their driving motivation for anything), a reprint set with purple symbols might be interesting.

That idea sounds so rediculously hot, that, well, it's hot.

[dahcmai]

The local store owner here and myself spent yesterday opening half a box of Portal 2 for fun. I bought a good $21 worth of packs and got my 3 Sea Drakes, Dakmor Sorceress, Sylvan Yeti, and one of those Norwood preistesses. I traded the priestess and the yeti for a Volcanic Island since he needed them to complete a set he was working on and he valued the Yeti fairly high since it was the last card he needed to finish it.

All in all $21 for a Dakmor Sorceress, 3 Sea Drakes, and a Volcanic Island just made my day. It's really not that hard to pack them and most definitely cheaper.

[xsockmonkeyx]

It's really not that hard to pack them and most definitely cheaper.

...if you can find the packs of course.

[mikekelley]

The local store owner here and myself spent yesterday opening half a box of Portal 2 for fun. I bought a good $21 worth of packs and got my 3 Sea Drakes, Dakmor Sorceress, Sylvan Yeti, and one of those Norwood preistesses. I traded the priestess and the yeti for a Volcanic Island since he needed them to complete a set he was working on and he valued the Yeti fairly high since it was the last card he needed to finish it.

All in all $21 for a Dakmor Sorceress, 3 Sea Drakes, and a Volcanic Island just made my day. It's really not that hard to pack them and most definitely cheaper.

How much did you pay per pack?

[Reverend Damaged]

By the way, if anybody has In the Eye of Chaos and Nether Voids, my extra 7 Sea Drakes are for trade.

My friend wanted 4 and was going to give me 3 Nether Voids. He sold the Nether Voids the other day so now it's either find some voids elseware or sell the drakes. Hoping to find cards I need however.

[mikekelley]

Does wizards know about this card, or similar cards for that matter, that are extremely difficult to get? Do they keep their eye on this kind of thing?

[Brushwagg]

Here's a little story about why you should your common boxes.

Today I had a few people over to since Altered Name still is holding tournaments yet. Damping Engine asks me if I have any Rushing Rivers. I say yes but they are in one of many boxes. So we get to looking and I open a box that I haven't looked in for a long while. Well I get to looking threw the Blue section when I happen to find a SEA DRAKE. I'm like holy shit, I didn't even know I had one. It has to have been in there at least 3 years or so. That just made my week.

[SillyMetalGAT]

Here's a little story about why you should your common boxes.

Today I had a few people over to since Altered Name still is holding tournaments yet. Damping Engine asks me if I have any Rushing Rivers. I say yes but they are in one of many boxes. So we get to looking and I open a box that I haven't looked in for a long while. Well I get to looking threw the Blue section when I happen to find a SEA DRAKE. I'm like holy shit, I didn't even know I had one. It has to have been in there at least 3 years or so. That just made my week.

Lucky bastard

[The Marco]

They did after all reprint tidings in 9th ed which became a very powerful card in type 2. However it is one of the only cards originally printed in portal to be reprinted. I highly dought that they will reprint sea drake because it may be too powerful of a card in type 2. With incinerate and volcanic hammer soon to be in the format maybe. They almost reprinted thunder dragon after all.

I play a lot of competitive type 2 and although Sea Drake would be quite powerful, I do not think it would be broken in Standard when they reprint Incinerate in 10th... It all comes down to all the acceleration and free counter magic in Legacy that make the card that good. I'm not saying it would not be in every deck playing blue but I'm not convinced it would be too broken.
They should definitely reprint some of the portal cards, some are great cards that would never see play otherwise (and I do own a playset of Drakes, but for the sake of the game it would just be better to reprint them rather the ban them).