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    [New Card Discussion] Holy Shit

    From the mtgsalvation spoiler:

    Juzam Sliver - 2BB
    Creature - Sliver
    All Slivers have "At the beginning of your upkeep, this creature deals 1 damage to you".
    5/5

    Not only are they reprinting Juzam Djinn, they're making it better. Insanity.

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    Re: [New Card Discussion] Holy Shit

    This cannot be correct. It must be a joke or something.

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    Re: [New Card Discussion] Holy Shit

    Downright nutty. Red Death should run Sedge Sliver + Juzzam Sliver.
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    Re: [New Card Discussion] Holy Shit

    Quote Originally Posted by Volt View Post
    Downright nutty. Red Death should run Sedge Sliver + Juzzam Sliver.
    Why so you can take extra damage each turn?

    But that really sucks for people if their Dijnns drop in price because of this.

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    Re: [New Card Discussion] Holy Shit

    Quote Originally Posted by Jolfer View Post
    Why so you can take extra damage each turn?

    But that really sucks for people if their Dijnns drop in price because of this.
    I don't think the damage is a big concern. In reality, the concern is probably that those creatures are just a smidge too slow for Red Death.
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    Re: [New Card Discussion] Holy Shit

    Do you actually believe this card exists. The cards they put up at the same time were unsure, something, and unkown. Those were the card names.

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    Re: [New Card Discussion] Holy Shit

    Quote Originally Posted by Volt View Post
    I don't think the damage is a big concern. In reality, the concern is probably that those creatures are just a smidge too slow for Red Death.
    Well you were saying it with an implication that it was somehow better than being able to play Dijnn which would be a better choice for the deck, just way more expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolfer View Post
    Well you were saying it with an implication that it was somehow better than being able to play Dijnn which would be a better choice for the deck, just way more expensive.
    Well, Sedge Sliver would give the Juzzam Sliver +1/+1 (and give it regeneration, but that likely won't matter). But, like I said, they're probably just a little too slow for the deck anyway.
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    Re: [New Card Discussion] Holy Shit

    Quote Originally Posted by GodzillA View Post
    From the mtgsalvation spoiler:

    Juzam Sliver - 2BB
    Creature - Sliver
    All Slivers have "At the beginning of your upkeep, this creature deals 1 damage to you".
    5/5

    Not only are they reprinting Juzam Djinn, they're making it better. Insanity.
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    Re: [New Card Discussion] Holy Shit

    I was kind of hoping the card was actually called "holy shit..."

    I don't see why this is good. Can someone explain it to me?

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    Re: [New Card Discussion] Holy Shit

    Quote Originally Posted by Machinus View Post
    I was kind of hoping the card was actually called "holy shit..."

    I don't see why this is good. Can someone explain it to me?
    I don't think anyone is talking about the power level of the card. It's just surprising that they're essentially reprinting a 100$+ dollar card.

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    Re: [New Card Discussion] Holy Shit

    Quote Originally Posted by Jolfer View Post
    Why so you can take extra damage each turn?
    You're so right. They should unban Necropotence too, because seriously, who wants to pay life for cards? The life loss from a few extra Slivers can definitely be worth it if it improves your threats significantly. It's really not hard at all to offset the life loss with... I dunno. Shit, maybe if they printed a card for a creature-based deck that somehow allowed you to gain life for attacking. If they wanted to make it really good, maybe it could act as removal too. And pump. Oh right, Jitte.

    Furthermore, the card on its own is tech against CounterSliver. The deck's not that popular now, but it's a solid contender and is gaining popularity. Remember that it causes all your opponent's Slivers to ping them every turn as well. All their threats pump this guy as well.


    I don't see why this is good. Can someone explain it to me?
    Because one of Suicide's greatest shortcomings in this format is that, by and large, black creatures suck. This one does not, particularly if you park it alongside other Slivers.

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    Re: [New Card Discussion] Holy Shit

    Doesn't this get worse when you add slivers??

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    Re: [New Card Discussion] Holy Shit

    Quote Originally Posted by GodzillA View Post
    You're so right. They should unban Necropotence too, because seriously, who wants to pay life for cards? The life loss from a few extra Slivers can definitely be worth it if it improves your threats significantly. It's really not hard at all to offset the life loss with... I dunno. Shit, maybe if they printed a card for a creature-based deck that somehow allowed you to gain life for attacking. If they wanted to make it really good, maybe it could act as removal too. And pump. Oh right, Jitte.

    Furthermore, the card on its own is tech against CounterSliver. The deck's not that popular now, but it's a solid contender and is gaining popularity. Remember that it causes all your opponent's Slivers to ping them every turn as well. All their threats pump this guy as well.



    Because one of Suicide's greatest shortcomings in this format is that, by and large, black creatures suck. This one does not, particularly if you park it alongside other Slivers.
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    Re: [New Card Discussion] Holy Shit

    Its not if you own Juzam Djinn. IF you don't, he just got about 90 dollars cheaper. He also if unaffected by King Suleiman, and we all know that guys tech.
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    Re: [New Card Discussion] Holy Shit

    Quote Originally Posted by GodzillA View Post
    You're so right. They should unban Necropotence too, because seriously, who wants to pay life for cards? The life loss from a few extra Slivers can definitely be worth it if it improves your threats significantly. It's really not hard at all to offset the life loss with... I dunno. Shit, maybe if they printed a card for a creature-based deck that somehow allowed you to gain life for attacking. If they wanted to make it really good, maybe it could act as removal too. And pump. Oh right, Jitte.
    The last time I checked there is a pretty big difference between drawing X cards for X life and losing a life for each sliver you control. And it doesn't improve your threats significally, it makes them worse. It however, may be improved by your other threats but I hardly think that is anything to be excited about when it makes your others threats signifcantly worse. I'm not saying that isn't playable, because it certainly is, but it isn't anything close to overpowered, like necropotence.

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    Re: [New Card Discussion] Holy Shit

    This is the best card they have previewed so far. By a lot. Kind of sad :/
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    Re: [New Card Discussion] Holy Shit

    I was really hoping they would bring back a really effective expensive and classic card. If only Timevault was back......
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    Re: [New Card Discussion] Holy Shit

    Triple Juzam Sliver also < triple Juzam Djinn.


    Could be strong with Sedge/Acidic Sliver, though. Who knows.
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    Re: [New Card Discussion] Holy Shit

    I take it back, this is the best card thats been previewed:

    'Sudden Stifling'(real name not given) 1U
    Instant
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    Counter target activated or triggered ability.
    Activated or triggered abilities cannot be played by that card until end of turn.

    If its real then its pretty kick ass.

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