The Pros and Cons of Playing Established Decks

[My Name Is Scott]

Your lucky you aren't sitting across from him.

So is Jack's dignity.

[SpatulaOfTheAges]

And, playing an old deck that can't compete anymore isn't going rogue, its not being able to let go of the fact that its' time has come and gone. Examples include stompy, mono red sligh, burn, enchantress, ect.

That's a sweeping statement that can be used to justify dismisiveness of any deck that resembles any past deck even slightly(read:any deck).

[Watcher487]

And, playing an old deck that can't compete anymore isn't going rogue, its not being able to let go of the fact that its' time has come and gone. Examples include stompy, mono red sligh, burn, enchantress, ect.

That's a sweeping statement that can be used to justify dismisiveness of any deck that resembles any past deck even slightly(read:any deck).

The bigger problem is that alot of people haven't thought about what is available to make these decks better, but when it does pop into the woodwork, it can be a nasty surprise. IE 9-land Stompy from Legacy Champs, no one expected it and to make matters worse he had an optimized deck list.

Really this format doesn't really have a 'rogue' area unless your really really stuck on this whole 'tier' system of grading decks. Any deck in this format can be adjusted to have a better match-up against a deck and alot of players are truly incompinant(sp(sorry P_R)) with what is going on and don't know how and what to play vs. various decks.

This format should really be a format for 'rogue-ish' style decks. With so many decent decks all viable, no one should really complain that a 'random' deck wins a major tourney. The problem that happens though is that what people describe as 'random' become decks not worth time testing against or even playing in the first place since there isn't anything going behind it anyway. It's these sort of things that really prevent this format from really becoming anything really important in the eyes of alot of people. And the 'good' 'random' decks that can be optimized are just shunted off to the last page and nothing is ever heard of it again, until it wins another tourney.

[umbowta]

I went Rogue last night at Pandemonium's weekly Legacy event and it paid off with a 1st place finish. The Zoo wins again. Here's a link to the Deck and Primer I wrote up. http://www.themanadrain.com/index.php?topic=28426.0 The current list is posted at/near the end of the thread, currently.

[emidln]

That's not rogue. Until the Lotus tournament, I wasn't aware you owned any decks that weren't Zoo. You've been playing that for. ev. er. And it's been effective for. ev. er. When the entire meta should expect it, it isn't exactly rogue.

[umbowta]

That's not rogue.

I havn't touched it for over 2 months, as evidenced by the dust I had to wipe off the deck box. You're just bitter because you haven't been able to beat the deck in match play frigg. in. ...ever.

And it's been effective for. ev. er

Just wait until you see it in action...with Grunts...maindeck! It's A. maze. ing! Goblins are too slow to keep up with me...as evidenced by me not giving a shit when my top 4 opponent dropped a first turn Lackey. He bragged that he put up 25 points of damage on t4 in the previous round. I swung through it with a double Rancored Kird Ape. When he gempalmed the Ape after combat damage, I dropped Grunt and Rancored him up...he never even got to untap for turn 4. ...[edit] just like what happens when I play you. [end edit]