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    [Article] Continued Explorations of Tier 1.5

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    In this article, Dan surveys 4-color Landstill and the Ill-Gotten Gains-based storm combo deck "IGGy Pop" in Legacy, concluding with an interview with the inventor of Angel Stompy, Patrick Maeder, better known around the Internet as GodzillA.
    For my next article, I'd like to run a “Legacy Mail Bag” piece, similar to Jeroen Remie's excellent column. So, if you have any questions about Legacy decks, the format as a whole, its future, etc., drop me a line at bardo49@yahoo.com and I'll gladly answer them or will find someone who can.

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    Re: [Article] Continued Explorations of Tier 1.5

    Really good read.

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    I agree. I really liked it.

    And hopefully after GP Columbus there will be enough results to get MeatHooks into one of these articles. I would definitely peg it in the Tier 1.5

    But maybe I'm just biased .
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    Like I said over at the SCG forums; That new deck Zilla made is awesome. 4 Angels, 4 Cataclysms, and a 2nd color. Oh, it's so intense!

    Anyways, I love the article. You should talk about the other decks besides Meathooks, like Faerie Stompy as well as your take on WUb Fish. Metagame decks would also be cool to talk about too!
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    Re: [Article] Continued Explorations of Tier 1.5

    Awesome job, I think it was just what alot of us wanted to read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti~American4621 View Post
    Anyways, I love the article. You should talk about the other decks besides Meathooks, like Faerie Stompy as well as your take on WUb Fish. Metagame decks would also be cool to talk about too!
    I would like to see similar write-ups too, but there are simply too many tier 1.5 decks in Legacy. Slivers, TES, FStompy, RedDeath, Terrageddon, etc. etc. etc.

    Great piece. The first Legacy Article I have read in a very long time.

    First, I want to call BullSHit on the interview. There is no way Zilla was that polite while addressing anyone. Are you sure he didn't try to stab you or touch you in a bad place?

    Second, why wasn't I interviewd about BurningTog? The premier AggroControl Deck of the format? BAH! I hope my V-Day card to you, Bardo, gets lost in the mail.

    Third, I'm really pleased to see some weekly attention to the format. The pieces so far seem to be a little more professional or official than other earlier articles. I think that they add a touch of seriousness to our oft overlooked format.

    Lastly, I'm excited about that mail-bag article coming up. I'd really like to think of a good question to send in, but I'm level 67 and looking to hit 70 soon. Stupid conflicting hobbies.
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    Re: [Article] Continued Explorations of Tier 1.5

    Great read.

    Keep up the good work.
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    Here's a quick mail in question. Where's all the me? Seriously, all I'm reading is, 'blah, blah, blah, something about decks that aren't Solidarity.' If you could just change some of the 'blah' into 'David Gearhart is awesome', these articles would be a much more enjoyable read. Also, you're a big jerk, now that you've tipped the damn midget, he expects it every time. Jeez, beg much?

    And when did freshly orphaned baby blood get so damn expensive? Mmm, with a twist of lemon, delicious. Also, damn expensive. Seriously Zilla, look into that.
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    Got ego?

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    Re: [Article] Continued Explorations of Tier 1.5

    First off, thanks for the positive feedback.

    I started this article in November and it was the supposed to be the last in a three part overview series for the format. Then I spent a lot of time on the Goblins/Thresh articles with Machinus and then SCG pulled the rug from under us when they said they weren't accepting unsolicited articles. So, after three months, it's good to see the thing up there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anti_American
    You should talk about the other decks besides Meathooks, like Faerie Stompy as well as your take on WUb Fish.
    I covered Faerie Stompy, UWB Fish ("HanniFish") and B/W Confidant in Part 2.

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    I would like to see similar write-ups too, but there are simply too many tier 1.5 decks in Legacy. Slivers, TES, FStompy, RedDeath, Terrageddon, etc. etc. etc.
    For these articles I was looking at what was T8'ing and covering those decks before I went any deeper. Slivers, TES, Red Death and Terrageddon have not put in any T8s in 50+ player US tournaments that I know of. I figured I'd start with the big and popular stuff and work from there.

    Re: Red Death, as I mentioned in the article, I almost covered it in place of AS, but I had just covered B/w in the previous article and wanted something entirely different. And I know they're two totally different decks, but I've wanted to do something about AS for a while now.

    First, I want to call BullSHit on the interview. There is no way Zilla was that polite while addressing anyone. Are you sure he didn't try to stab you or touch you in a bad place?
    Pat's a total fucking pussy with me. He just talks like a giant mutant dinosaur when he has the anonymous security of the Internet. :)

    Second, why wasn't I interviewd about BurningTog? The premier AggroControl Deck of the format? BAH! I hope my V-Day card to you, Bardo, gets lost in the mail.


    Lastly, I'm excited about that mail-bag article coming up.
    Please send your questions in! I have a fallback article I'm working on in case it goes bust, but I've wanted to write a mail-bag article for a while. 'Should be fun.

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    Also, you're a big jerk, now that you've tipped the damn midget, he expects it every time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deep6er View Post
    Here's a quick mail in question. Where's all the me? Seriously, all I'm reading is, 'blah, blah, blah, something about decks that aren't Solidarity.' If you could just change some of the 'blah' into 'David Gearhart is awesome', these articles would be a much more enjoyable read.
    You have no one to blame on that one but yourself. You're the fucktard that made a GOOD deck. You'd get much more T1.5 love if your deck sucked and you just whined for "something that isn't Goblins, Threshold or Iggy".
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    Re: [Article] Continued Explorations of Tier 1.5

    Nice article Bardo! I feel kind of special that I was included (although I'm not sure what's up with the "as a Suggested deck" since I actually placed with it.) I was worried that all my GP tech was getting out, but it looks like Zilla and I are still poised to make a stunning comeback.

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    Re: [Article] Continued Explorations of Tier 1.5

    Quote Originally Posted by LegoArmyMan
    I feel kind of special that I was included (although I'm not sure what's up with the "as a Suggested deck" since I actually placed with it.)
    I'm not sure how the whole deck sorting thingy works, but that happened to all of the lists I used in this article and they were all entries in the SCG deck database (maybe not IGGy?). If I had to guess, maybe it's because Craig has to point the deck sort thing to an entry in the database and that it's just easier to have it do the "suggested by" tag. For instance, in the beastly Advanced Search form in the SCG deck database there's a way to filter the "suggested" decks. Meh, I don't know. Nor do I know why I spent long dwelling on this....

    In any case, I think the deck sort thing give the lists a sort of pseudo-professional veneer, with its graphs and shit like that, but I really don't like it. I like seeing the lands all in one place and don't like having to mentally organize snow-covered, basics, non-basics and legendary lands as four separate things. Nor do I give two shits if something is a sorcery or instant. (I mean, I do, but when not looking at deck lists.) Or if an artifact is legendary or not, especially, since I take a lot of care to organize the lists in my articles the way I want to see them, only to have them zapped by SCG. Ultimately, I think the deck thing dumbs things down. Ah well.

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    I agree that the SCG way of listing decks is retarded. Plz don't separate out 'Legendary' card types.

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    Re: [Article] Continued Explorations of Tier 1.5

    Very cool. Entertaining and factual all at once. And the mailbag is also a good idea.

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    Re: [Article] Continued Explorations of Tier 1.5

    Overall good article, it's good to see that someone is willing to put out something that doesn't say anything about the Big 3 and at least it gives insight to other decks in the format.

    Love the Mailbag Idea... should be interesting to see what is sent into the bag.
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    Re: [Article] Continued Explorations of Tier 1.5

    At the very least, if they're going to separate Legendary, put it in the same place! I hate looking at Creatures, then Sorceries, then seeing some Artifacts, and then finally my Isamarus. That doesn't help anyone.

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    Re: [Article] Continued Explorations of Tier 1.5

    Love the Mailbag Idea... should be interesting to see what is sent into the bag.
    It's going to be as good as the questions I receive; so, if anyone has any, please pass them along to me. PMs, email, posts, whatever. Grazi.

    At the very least, if they're going to separate Legendary, put it in the same place! I hate looking at Creatures, then Sorceries, then seeing some Artifacts, and then finally my Isamarus. That doesn't help anyone.
    Exactly. Not only does it add nothing valuable, it also adds unnecessary steps to analyse someone's deck.

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    Re: [Article] Continued Explorations of Tier 1.5

    Quote Originally Posted by Deep6er View Post
    Here's a quick mail in question. Where's all the me? Seriously, all I'm reading is, 'blah, blah, blah, something about decks that aren't Solidarity.' If you could just change some of the 'blah' into 'David Gearhart is awesome', these articles would be a much more enjoyable read. Also, you're a big jerk, now that you've tipped the damn midget, he expects it every time. Jeez, beg much?

    And when did freshly orphaned baby blood get so damn expensive? Mmm, with a twist of lemon, delicious. Also, damn expensive. Seriously Zilla, look into that.
    Who the hell is David Gearhart?!?

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