Has anyone noticed that shutting down combo with Meddling Mage requires atleast two? The combo decks of today are better equipped to handle them than in the past. I think we all knew it, but one thing is being laid out clearly from this discussion. Meddling Mage is not nearly as good as it used to be. I think we can agree that allowing combo access to its engine, which is variable out of necessity, will result in a game loss. So why is this card as popular as it is when it is clearly not very good at preventing that? Chalice is better, occasionally coming down on turn 1 and hitting groups of cards. But Nightmare said that he won with TES through 3 of them. That example may be a bit extreme, but the point remains.
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You are correct that Meddling Mage by itself isn't the house it used to be. That is why any successful deck playing them does so as part of a package. Meddling Mage + True Believer, Mom, Trinisphere, Sphere of Resistance, Aether Vial, Jotun Grunt, Counterspell/FoW/other counters, Duress/Cabal Therapy - you can have a pretty good deck when you combine Meddling Mage with part of the buffet.
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You forgot Arcane Lab/Rule of Law. Meddling Mage and one of those makes alot of combo decks cry. Just make sure you name Burning/Cunning Wish with Mage.You are correct that Meddling Mage by itself isn't the house it used to be. That is why any successful deck playing them does so as part of a package. Meddling Mage + True Believer, Mom, Trinisphere, Sphere of Resistance, Aether Vial, Jotun Grunt, Counterspell/FoW/other counters, Duress/Cabal Therapy - you can have a pretty good deck when you combine Meddling Mage with part of the buffet
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I can't imagine a situation where you'd follow naming LED with Burning Wish unless you were completely unable to defend your pair mages from Clasm/Rough with any sort of countermagic. My next target after LED would be Dark Ritual. If you're going to go the mana denial route, stick to it.
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Dead on, Nat, and important potential weapons in the arsenal. As to naming Burning/Cunning Wish, they are key if you don't have a counter for what is wished for (or the card has Split Second). They also deny your opponent access to other combo pieces stashed in the SB (becoming more & more common). Your opponent has have boarded in removal, if they didn't, Wish is still the right call. If your opponent did board in removal, then your Mages(s) are dead anyway vs TES as they have leventy-million tutors but you have a better shot versus IGGy. Go for the possibility that you can control the outcome rather than name cards that won't matter once they fry your Mage(s). This also has the advantage of making them burn tutors (and possibly cards) to get rid of your Mage(s).
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It's about what card that enables TES the best to Combo off with. LED combos off with LED and enable 1st-2nd turn kills all the time. Burning Wish is like naming Cunning Wish against Solidarity. Look, thing is, Mage is useless after one comes up and names LED. Dark Confidant can just outdraw you Game 2 without the aid of LED.
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If your going mana denial then vs. TES you name Dark Ritual, Cabal Ritual, Rite of Flame. Pretty much in that order. TES needs the Black mana alot more then the Red.
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