Can you use real cards but with a proxy art? a dark ritual but you change the drawing of the card?
Officially, this isn't allowed, but most of the time, judges allow it as long as you don't alter the art so much, you can't tell anymore which card it is.Originally Posted by radley
Every player must be able to tell which card(s) you have on the table, by just looking on the art. As long as you only change the face of a caracter, or alter a background, everything will be fine.
If you change the art of the Dark Ritual, so it looks like it is a Counterspell (asuming you can draw that well), judges won't allow you to play with it, since most opponenets will think you are playing a counterspell.
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As long as the text box and card name, and casting cost are visable, then it doesn't matter.
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Also, the art has to be recognisable. It's the head judge's call, as mentioned.
“It's possible. But it involves... {checks archives} Nature's Revolt, Opalescence, two Unstable Shapeshifters (one of which started as a Doppelganger), a Tide, an animated land, a creature with Fading, a Silver Wyvern, some way to get a creature into play in response to stuff, some way to get a land into play in response to stuff (a different land from the animated land), and one heck of a Rube Goldberg timing diagram.”
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Firebrother, thanks for the link but it didn't answer all of my question though. Still helpful.
What if I made the goblin in the goblin lackey look like batman?
That SHOULD be okay, but the Head Judge has the final say if it is or not. The rule of thumb, like they said before, is if the name, cost, (although less important, you really shouldn't mess with these anyway) type line, and text box are legible, it should be allowed.
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Again, you forgot the art. The art should not be modified to the point where it is no longer recognisable.
“It's possible. But it involves... {checks archives} Nature's Revolt, Opalescence, two Unstable Shapeshifters (one of which started as a Doppelganger), a Tide, an animated land, a creature with Fading, a Silver Wyvern, some way to get a creature into play in response to stuff, some way to get a land into play in response to stuff (a different land from the animated land), and one heck of a Rube Goldberg timing diagram.”
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I don't see the big deal with art. RTFC.
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As you know by now, people don't RTFC, and the DCI actually encourages them not to do so. Their clarion call of "everyone recognizes cards by the art" is not only asinine, it is false, as I recognize a card by its, you know, name. I had Chokes that had the art blacked out and the Kansas Jayhawks logo colored in over the box and they were not allowed in a PTQ, which is bullshit because 1). they were English, and everything but the art was unmarred; 2). they were fucking hot; and 3). the Head Judge was a Hoosiers fan.
The moral is: don't RTFC because it isn't required.
The moral should be: learn to correlate the card's name with its text and shut the fuck up.
It's just that arts of goblins aren't cool. Goblin card's art sucks arse so I'd rather modify their face so they'd look cool.
Modifying the arts shouldn't be a problem because it's not our fault we don't appreciate the art. Well, just don't make the card look like another card because it's naughty.
What does RTFC means by the way?
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What if you black out the art then write the name of that card in the art. e.g. opt card, black opt card then put the word opt really big, they'd be stupid not to read it
This reminds me of a picture I saw where someone wrote "NOT A SMOKESTACK" on top of a Smokestack to spite judges for this sort of thing. Can anyone remember who that was, or provide a link?
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Damn, just wrote "not a smokestack" on art? How about the real artist of the card altering the image. e.g. Sliver queen's art altered by ron spears. Who ever made that rule about the art is stupid. If they encourage the players to play and just recognise the card by the art, maybe we can change the text box then and maybe we can draw pictures on it.
When artists alter art, they typically do so in a way that is relevant to the original piece. For example, toasting marshmellows on firebreathing or Hulk/Spiderman/Whatever FoWs. The problem arises when you erase the card's art completely and replace it with your own, so that it may not resemble the card whatsoever and can lead to miscommunication or even cheating.
What about the smokestack that only has "not a smokestack" on the art? Didn't remove the art whatsoever.
He did that AFTER the other cards were pulled out to spite the judge.
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You realize that 'recognize by art' is done to make sure that people can, you know, recognize different-languaged cards? Otherwise known as CAN YOU READ SIMPLIFIED CHINESE? NO?! I DON'T THINK SO.
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