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    Re: Starting 7 Chart

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    I didn't think of that, but I think you can get most of them pretty easily with the chart.

    1 or more: 1 - the chance of getting 0

    2 or more: 1 - the chance of getting 0 or 1

    3 or more: 1 - the chance of getting 0 to 2, etc.
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    Wow, this is pretty darn useful, man. Thanks for putting this up!

    At first I was thinking, "since when do I have more than 4 copies of a card in my deck," but then I realized that I could just group cards like removal, creatures, and lands together. I'm so good at this.

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    Re: Starting 7 Chart

    Can we get a Sticky on this?

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    Re: Starting 7 Chart

    Yes, very helpful. I've been wanting one of these for a bit, but I suck at math.

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    Could turn it into a Google spreadsheet, though sharing those can be finicky.
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    Re: Starting 7 Chart

    If anyone's interested, I made a chart about a month or two ago that lists how many lands you should have drawn from your deck (assumed to be 60 cards for constructed and 40 cards for limited) on average by any given turn (assuming you're first player).

    Someone put the spreadsheets up on Google Docs for me and added values for 100 card decks as well.

    The link is: https://spreadsheets.google.com/spre...JLWVE&hl=en_US

    EDIT: I updated the spreadsheet to make it more user friendly and, er, colorful. >_>
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    Re: Starting 7 Chart

    Perhaps we could get one sticky that has nothing but all of the various data spreadsheets together.

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    Re: Starting 7 Chart

    Minor update. Added a Limited chart.

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    Cool, now I know to add 4 more Shatters in my SOM block drafts in order to maximize the chance of seeing 1 in my opener. Sweeeeeet!!</sarcasm>

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    Re: Starting 7 Chart

    This guy has some pretty sick statistic tools that can be viewed online:

    http://ark42.com/mtg/

    I'm working on my own spreadsheets but haven't found a way to compile them neatly and available for sharing. Google spreadsheet is still very limited in sharing/viewing purposes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalwalker View Post
    This guy has some pretty sick statistic tools that can be viewed online:

    http://ark42.com/mtg/

    I'm working on my own spreadsheets but haven't found a way to compile them neatly and available for sharing. Google spreadsheet is still very limited in sharing/viewing purposes.
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    Re: Starting 7 Chart

    lol I didn't even check that out!

    This too: http://ark42.com/mtg/pricevisualizer.php?s=Antiquities

    Anyway, is this thread just for Opening 7 Charts or can the community add some useful spreadsheets/statistics if we feel like it?
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    REB is a fantastic sideboard card against blue... in blue decks :/

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    Edh

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    Re: Starting 7 Chart

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    Re: Starting 7 Chart

    Quote Originally Posted by Metalwalker View Post
    lol I didn't even check that out!

    This too: http://ark42.com/mtg/pricevisualizer.php?s=Antiquities

    Anyway, is this thread just for Opening 7 Charts or can the community add some useful spreadsheets/statistics if we feel like it?
    Feel free to add more charts/data, although the title should be changed then to avoid confusion. Maybe something like "Data/Spreadsheets Thread"?

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    Re: Starting 7 Chart

    Quote Originally Posted by AlexAI View Post
    I made a chart that shows the chances of seeing 0-4 copies of the cards in your starting 7 while running a certain amount of them
    Very useful chart, good work.
    I would be interested in seeing the Constructed charts with 61 cards.

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    Fantastic idea and resource--especially keeping it open-sourced, so to speak. Thanks for all the hard work, everyone.
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    Re: Starting 7 Chart

    Quote Originally Posted by Hof View Post
    I would be interested in seeing the Constructed charts with 61 cards.
    Done + updated.

    Edit: What if I used percentages in the chart instead of the number (88.52% instead of 0.885246 etc)? It would be neater at the cost of a little less detail.
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    I've been looking around the web for an update to Stephen Menendian's Legacy checklist and couldn't find one that was satisfactory so I wrote one:

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