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    What are your thoughts on Dark Confidant (possibly lose 4 life if you revel Skyshroud or Reverent Silence), Thoughtseize (Fetch shock into TS for five), Sylvan Library (Lose 8 life draw three)? I would think that these help towards either building enough cards for the Kavu/Cure combo or working towards getting Death's Shadow out as a fatty. This kind of seems like a plan B worth exploring for the deck, as one thing I've noticed while playing the deck is that it is lacking a secondary offense behind Kavu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fonzdizon View Post
    What are your thoughts on Dark Confidant (possibly lose 4 life if you revel Skyshroud or Reverent Silence), Thoughtseize (Fetch shock into TS for five), Sylvan Library (Lose 8 life draw three)? I would think that these help towards either building enough cards for the Kavu/Cure combo or working towards getting Death's Shadow out as a fatty. This kind of seems like a plan B worth exploring for the deck, as one thing I've noticed while playing the deck is that it is lacking a secondary offense behind Kavu.
    Agreed, I would cut dark ritual for some of these.

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    http://www.tcdecks.net/deck.php?id=21974&iddeck=169072

    Another top 8, but with an odd SB strategy

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    Re: The Cure (Kavu Predator / False Cure)

    Hi everybody,
    I've started tinkering with the deck and tried to make a BUG version of it that I've yet to test. It uses Delver to make pressure from the start while we're setting up the combo or to deal the final damage.

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    // Main
    4 Tropical Island
    3 Underground Sea
    3 Bayou
    4 Verdant Catacomb
    4 Misty Rainforest

    4 Skyshroud Cutter
    4 Kavu Predator
    4 Delver of Secrets

    4 False Cure
    4 Invigorate
    1 Berserk
    2 Green Sun's Zenith
    4 Daze
    4 Force of Will
    4 Brainstorm
    4 Ponder

    3 Lotus Petal

    // Sideboard
    2 Vendilion Clique
    1 Reclamation Sage
    2 Flusterstorm
    2 Reverent Silence
    4 Mindbreak Trap
    4 Leyline of the Void


    Delver is also good to eat opponent removals saving future predators. The Brainstorm/Ponder package help us setting up delver and sculpt our hand to find what we need to combo out, and Force/Daze are there to protect our spells and creatures.

    I run GSZ and Berserk in the flex slots because I like to be able to fetch for Kavu Predator and to have some more reach like infect does. But those could be 3 Abrupt Decay.

    The whole deck need few mana to run, in fact Cutter, Force, Daze and Invigorate are all free spells, so 18 lands + 3 petals are enough for me.

    The sideboard is experimental but the philosophy is to spend as less mana as possible to answer threats.

    I think this may be a good direction for the deck that I'm about to test. Is half–BUG Delver / half–Infect in the spirit but with a combo solution that make it less predictable and maybe more fun.
    Let me know what you think, C&C are welcome.
    Last edited by Artemis; 05-04-2017 at 02:59 AM.

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    Interesting...any results?

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    Has anyone tested someting with RUG Colors and Aria of Flame?
    Maybe include Punishing Fire?

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    I saw this list pop up on Stryfo's stream. What do you guys think?

    3 Grove of the Burnwillows
    2 Island
    3 Misty Rainforest
    3 Scalding Tarn
    1 Forest
    1 Taiga
    2 Tropical Island
    3 Volcanic Island
    1 Wooded Foothills
    4 Brainstorm
    4 Ponder
    4 Preordain
    1 Spell Pierce
    2 Lightning Bolt
    3 Daze
    4 Dreadhorde Arcanist
    4 Kavu Predator
    3 Punishing Fire
    3 Aria of Flame
    3 Invigorate
    2 Dack Fayden
    4 Force of Will

    Sideboard
    1 Hydroblast
    1 Spell Pierce
    2 Vapor Snag
    2 Surgical Extraction
    2 Veil of Summer
    2 Pyroblast
    2 Cindervines
    2 Jace the Mind Sculptor
    1 Submerge

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElDorte View Post
    I saw this list pop up on Stryfo's stream. What do you guys think?

    3 Grove of the Burnwillows
    2 Island
    3 Misty Rainforest
    3 Scalding Tarn
    1 Forest
    1 Taiga
    2 Tropical Island
    3 Volcanic Island
    1 Wooded Foothills
    4 Brainstorm
    4 Ponder
    4 Preordain
    1 Spell Pierce
    2 Lightning Bolt
    3 Daze
    4 Dreadhorde Arcanist
    4 Kavu Predator
    3 Punishing Fire
    3 Aria of Flame
    3 Invigorate
    2 Dack Fayden
    4 Force of Will

    Sideboard
    1 Hydroblast
    1 Spell Pierce
    2 Vapor Snag
    2 Surgical Extraction
    2 Veil of Summer
    2 Pyroblast
    2 Cindervines
    2 Jace the Mind Sculptor
    1 Submerge
    Aria + Predator was something I thought of when that card was spoiled
    I didn't consider Invigorate but it does work well with Predator and can be like a Not-of-this-World for bolt targeting your Arcanist
    Another spicy option would be Wrenn or Loam plus Flame Jab (but I guess dack is already CA by looting the Pfires away)

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    Re: The Cure (Kavu Predator / False Cure)

    Quote Originally Posted by ElDorte View Post
    I saw this list pop up on Stryfo's stream. What do you guys think?

    3 Grove of the Burnwillows
    2 Island
    3 Misty Rainforest
    3 Scalding Tarn
    1 Forest
    1 Taiga
    2 Tropical Island
    3 Volcanic Island
    1 Wooded Foothills
    4 Brainstorm
    4 Ponder
    4 Preordain
    1 Spell Pierce
    2 Lightning Bolt
    3 Daze
    4 Dreadhorde Arcanist
    4 Kavu Predator
    3 Punishing Fire
    3 Aria of Flame
    3 Invigorate
    2 Dack Fayden
    4 Force of Will

    Sideboard
    1 Hydroblast
    1 Spell Pierce
    2 Vapor Snag
    2 Surgical Extraction
    2 Veil of Summer
    2 Pyroblast
    2 Cindervines
    2 Jace the Mind Sculptor
    1 Submerge
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    Re: The Cure (Kavu Predator / False Cure)

    Is there a way to make Aria of Flame work with False Cure? With another free spell (e.g. Cutter) and Grove mana, you can pretty much one shot someone.

    Aria curves out better with Kavu Predator, but False Cure is spicy and also gives more value to Invigorate and friends without Kavu.

    5 mana in one turn is a lot, but Dark Ritual and Dreadhorde Arcanist could help cast False Cure in a Jund Cure deck.

    Or you could even have UBR False Aria Storm with fast mana and cantrips. The easy combo kill is Cure + Aria + spells, but even with Aria on its own you can storm them out over any number of turns with cantrips.

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    How do we build this with the the new Krark the Thumbless card?

    I was considering a Tainted Remedy plus cure plus Krark plus summoner's pact plus invig/skyshroud cutter deck. Double summoner's is cute.

    Super rough try 1...

    4 False Cure
    3 Krark the Thumbless
    2 aria of flame
    4 once upon a time
    4 Skyshroud Cutter
    4 Invigorate
    4 bolt
    4 Kavu Predator
    2 Reverent Silence
    3 Dark Confidant
    3 Thoughtseize
    4 dark ritual

    20 L
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    Deck played out as well as I remembered. Kept some bad hands, that cost me my only loss. Felt real proud about the sideboard. Still has legs. Recommend it to anyone who like a combo deck that plays more like super synergy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weapon X View Post
    Deck played out as well as I remembered. Kept some bad hands, that cost me my only loss. Felt real proud about the sideboard. Still has legs. Recommend it to anyone who like a combo deck that plays more like super synergy.
    What did you play against, and how did the games go?

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    Re: The Cure (Kavu Predator / False Cure)

    IIRC maverick depths, scaminator, and I guess it would be a RG tempo lands brew. Was the first time I saw a new card in a while.

    Against maverick he couldn’t deal with the combo half at all and my guys were generally bigger. Spot removal felt better then discard as I could let him play permanents to cost him mana and the card. Think that helped slow him down even more.

    Scaminator went as you’d expect. I went first and won game one. Game two he had disruption and bobs clawed me back but too late. Game 3 I combo killed.

    Not sure what to call this deck, RG break out?… but I was keeping bad hands here. That’s all I remember outside of game two I had a fast combo.

    I do wish we were doing our old league system so I could have had a few more games instead of 3 rounds and standings, but it makes way more sense with how our league plays out.
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    Re: The Cure (Kavu Predator / False Cure)

    Quote Originally Posted by Weapon X View Post
    IIRC maverick depths, scaminator, and I guess it would be a RG tempo lands brew. Was the first time I saw a new card in a while.

    Against maverick he couldn’t deal with the combo half at all and my guys were generally bigger. Spot removal felt better then discard as I could let him play permanents to cost him mana and the card. Think that helped slow him down even more.

    Scaminator went as you’d expect. I went first and won game one. Game two he had disruption and bobs clawed me back but too late. Game 3 I combo killed.

    Not sure what to call this deck, RG break out?… but I was keeping bad hands here. That’s all I remember outside of game two I had a fast combo.

    I do wish we were doing our old league system so I could have had a few more games instead of 3 rounds and standings, but it makes way more sense with how our league plays out.
    Nice. Was the RG deck similar to this?
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    I’d say so. I think he said he saw it in a brewers dump. Otherwise I didn’t really see a lot of his deck.
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