Sometimes you have to read between the minds.
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This is true, infinity is a direction not a value and couldnt be chosen as a number for a loop even if the DCI didnt have this rule. I still think there should be a way that you can achieve the same results as infinite copies without actually having to choose infinity, for example if you named the storm as the number of particles in the universe, its 100% safe to say that that will win you game eventually in this scenario. This kind of defeats the point of having to choose a natural number though, if a number big enough is treated the same as infinity, so maybe this is inpractical and counter-intuitive to do. This situation is so rare (and now obsolete with the printing of Grapeshot) and inconsequential, so I dont forsee any change in this rule.
I think its going okay and doesnt need to be locked, hasnt gotten to flames or anything. Sorry for answering if that was rhetorical, the intarwebs isnt very good at rhetorical questions.
Thanks for making me need to piss. And picturing 8 billion copies of Brain Freeze trying to resolve in one's lifetime.
I spent the entire time while reading this thread (about an hour), trying to actually figure out how to pull off a number of instances that 1) wouldn't get you thrown out of the tournament (or banned) and 2) actually was relevant enough to let the judge know that your option is possible.
Unfortunately it's looking to come down to the exact ruling most of the judges have given. Since "infinite" is not an option, and 10,000,000,000,000+ copies still has that margin (even if it's one trillionth of a percent) of possible bad luck, there's nothing that can be done.
To be honest, I think that's complete BS, but it looks like it'll never change, because even if 99.9 repeating is 100 for all intents and purposes when examining it in the infinite grasp, that minute chance that it wouldn't happen when "Infinite" turns to "X", is enough to have us stuck with their decision.
EDIT: Oh, and to agree with most, Grapeshot >>>>>>> Brain Freeze if you can successfully target your opponent in the first place.
Just because it was bugging me, the real proof:
Define the variable "X":
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.9 = .9 repeating = x
Multiply through by 10:
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.9 * (10) = 10x
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9.9 = 10x
Subtract x:
--_---_
9.9 - .9 = 10x - x
Simplify:
(10x - x) => x(10-1) => 9x
9 = 9x
1=X
But by definition,
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.9 = x
So,
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.9 = x = 1
Therefore, mathematically, 99.9999....% is the same as 100%.
There are multiple proofs of it, the one I posted earlier is the simplest one, I figured the brevity would make it easiest to understand, but Nightmare's is cooler I gotta say.
Ok assume they printed this new card:
Sorcery
Flip a coin, if heads target opponent takes 1 damage, if tails does nothing.
Storm
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Ok so my opponent is playing life and is at 500 billion life. I have some infinite combo like topx2 and helm of awakening. I choose to do 500 google storm, then cast that coin flip spell. Does my opponent die or do you have to do it out? The chance that even 51% of the 500 google coming up heads or tails is so freakin low that it is retarded that it wouldn't just be a guranteed win. Now with the brain freeze, blessing example it is virtually the same thing.
Survival will be good forever... kinda like a maraschino cherry.
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