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    Re: Worlds Metagame Predictions

    Remember, the Top 8 is based on the whole 16 rounds of play, not just the five Legacy ones. So the two Belcher players might have had an only decent Legacy performance, but excellent Standard and Draft records.
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    Otsuka went 3-2.
    Nakano went 2-1-2.

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    Re: Worlds Metagame Predictions

    My teammate Anton Lunau played some version of white stax and went 4-1 conceeding the last round because his opponent was still playing for money, while Anton was not. Anyway they played for the heck of it, and Anton won 2-0, so practically 5-0 with white stax...

    I don't have his exact list, but I do know it contained some number of moats...

    Anyway - a little update. It doesn't look like there has been a whole lot of new smart tricksy things around. Not to my surprise, but still it is sad - could have been fun to shake the format up a bit with some new incredible tech.

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    Re: Worlds Metagame Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Kronicler View Post
    Just gotta say, I was right on the money.

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    True, thought I don't see much Stax.

    Also, I see no goblins.

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    Re: Worlds Metagame Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter_Rotten View Post
    2 Belcher? Wow. It seemed like Chalice and Landstill were everywhere. I wonder how those Belcher decks snuck in.
    Is that the Legacy Top 8? Or the Top 8 players entering Day 3? Their Legacy records are pretty awful, and Luis-Scott Vargas isn't featured.
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    Re: Worlds Metagame Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Nihil View Post
    Remember, the Top 8 is based on the whole 16 rounds of play, not just the five Legacy ones. So the two Belcher players might have had an only decent Legacy performance, but excellent Standard and Draft records.
    Quoted as an addtional reminder. So far we don't have the top8 Legacy decks although we can guess a bit.
    Koutarou Ootsuka made it into top8 for Sunday on a 12-4 record so it is possible that he went 11-0 in Standard and Draft and then played a 1-4 in Legacy (not quite how it most likely happened but possible).
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    Re: Worlds Metagame Predictions

    LSV went 4-1 with Enchantress and has a Deck Tech segment in the video coverage.

    Raph Levy played UGbw Threshold with CounterTop, Thoughtseize, Bob, and StP, going 3-1-1, drawing the last round to ensure Level 6 status for next year. It looks like Chapin was playing the same thing, he went 3-1-1 as well.

    Some number of french players played Dragon Stompy. Wafo-Tapa went 3-2 with it.

    Stuart Wright and Craig Jones play Welder Survival to a combined 7-3 record (with Jones playing poorly it looks like).

    Mori's Buw deck got him a 4-1 record.

    Zvi plays UW CounterTop + Wrath (Landstill without the Standstill?) goes 4-1, his only loss to Raph's UGbw Thresh.

    I would imagine Akki will get us some details when he gets back, and fill us in on what happened in the side events.

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    Re: Worlds Metagame Predictions

    I think it is time someone says it:

    All our predictions sucked to high heaven. This has got to be the epitome of what Legacy really is: anything and everything under the Sun. Choose what you like; the format is an open book waiting to be read. A new chapter every day!
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    Quote Originally Posted by freakish777 View Post
    Zvi plays UW CounterTop + Wrath (Landstill without the Standstill?) goes 4-1, his only loss to Raph's UGbw Thresh.
    He was playing UW Control with Moats, and Eternal Dragon as finisher
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    Re: Worlds Metagame Predictions

    Here is the Legacy Metagame Breakdown:

    Threshold: 76
    Goblins: 34
    Cephalid Breakfast: 26
    Landstill: 24
    Dredge: 24
    PT Junk: 16
    Charbelcher: 15
    Survival: 14
    Stax: 14
    Dragon Stompy: 11
    Affinity: 11
    38-43 Lands: 9
    White-Blue-Black: 8
    Aggro Loam: 7
    Enchantress: 7
    Solidarity: 6
    Black-White: 6
    3Deuce: 6
    Counter Goyf: 5
    Black-Blue-Green: 5
    Slivers / Meathooks: 3
    Black Splash Green: 3
    Aluren: 3
    Monoblack Aggro: 2
    Mono-Blue Control: 2
    The Perfect Storm: 2
    Iggy Pop: 2
    Rifter: 2
    White Weenie: 1
    Life: 1
    StifleNaught: 1
    Sea Stompy: 1
    Stompy: 1
    Other: 10

    http://wizards.com/default.asp?x=mtg...lds07/legbreak

    As expected it looks like Threshold was the most popular deck followed by Goblins. Third most popular was Cephalid Breakfast which is also isn't too unexpected. So what's this "PT Junk" deck that had 16 people playing it? I don't think I ever heard that name before is it usually called something different?
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    Re: Worlds Metagame Predictions

    I think it was mentioned in the other thread, but PT Junk was a deck GWB (i think) midrange aggro deck that was developed back when Gro and Miricle Gro were becoming big name decks. The name is literally Pro Tour Junk as I recall. I don't remember if it started as a meta foil deck or not, but pretty much any deck of that color combination that has held a disruptive mid-range aggro plan has been called by that name or called some variant of Zoo.
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    I love how the archetype evolved into "38-43" lands.

    We should just rename it to "2/3ish Lands"

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    A quick google search suggests that PT junk is a popular and competitive deck in extended.

    It's GWB aggro. Basically it lets one play Goyf, and the ultimate Goyf foil Spectral Lynx (which also owns threshold btw). So it happens to be decent in legacy and was ported there.

    But it's not as good as just playing thresh outright. Thus the only time it sees a lot of play is when a bunch of extended players are forced to play Legacy.

    Of course, all of that is a complete guess as I really don't know much about extended.

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    Old school PT Junk - Pro Tour Junk, was a GWB utility aggro deck with answers to anything, coupled with a smidge disruption and efficient creatures - it took the best of all three colors and combined it into a deck that had game against anything it sat across.

    I don't think there's currently a PT Junk deck in extended... I could totally see it be a viable choice, considering it should have a fairly good game against Threshold, Goblins and "okish" against straight combo.

    I'd love to see how it looks in 2007, I'd imagine very close to the old lists with 'gofys and less enchantment hate (Trix isn't a deck to beat anymore).

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    Re: Worlds Metagame Predictions

    It appears that the final deck that made Top 8 was Mono-white Stax. To recap:

    2 Belcher
    1 4C Threshold
    2 Landstill
    1 3cBlack
    1 PT Junk
    1 Mono-white Stax

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    Re: Worlds Metagame Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Grollub View Post
    OI don't think there's currently a PT Junk deck in extended
    Appears that there is one:

    // land
    2 Bloodstained Mire
    3 Forest
    2 Godless Shrine
    4 Overgrown Tomb
    1 Plains
    2 Polluted Delta
    2 Swamp
    2 Temple Garden
    4 Windswept Heath

    // creatures
    4 Birds of Paradise
    4 Dark Confidant
    2 Doran, the Siege Tower
    2 Eternal Witness
    2 Llanowar Elves
    2 Loxodon Hierarch
    4 Tarmogoyf
    1 Watchwolf

    // other spells
    3 Cabal Therapy
    2 Duress
    1 Putrefy
    1 Sensei's Divining Top
    2 Smother
    1 Sword of Fire and Ice
    2 Thoughtseize
    3 Umezawa's Jitte
    2 Vindicate

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    3 Engineered Plague
    2 Kataki, War's Wage
    4 Leyline of the Void
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    Re: Worlds Metagame Predictions

    On the other side of the Atlantic the American grouping of Gabe Walls and Mike Hron were busy at work on a deck of their own design, though they weren't using Mountains in it. Instead they set out to abuse the recently unbanned Replenish with the plethora of enchantments available in the format
    generic Enchantress decklist with maindeck Sacred Ground
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    Why would you MD Sacred Ground in Goyf.format? Who plays LD?
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    Re: Worlds Metagame Predictions

    Shu Komuro, Dan OMS, and M. Lyabert all picked up perfect scores on the Legacy portion, any ideas on what they played?

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