What is the worst card in Magic: The Gathering?

[Wallace]

But what does only 3 creatures having plainswalk have to do with Great Wall by itself in a vacuum? Great Wall isn't a bad card, it's just a victim of its surroundings.

If Wizards printed 100 plainswalkers in the next set, then would Great Wall still be a bad card? In my opinion, it wouldn't be (Although obviously not great).

If wizards printed 100 plainswalkers in the next set then yes, Great Wall would move off of the #1 worst spot in my boook. Until then its absolute shit, I have never played with it and I have been playing since beta's release. I would never even consider it's use in any deck, even if my opponent had all plainswalkers in there deck...it's just that bad!

[ParkerLewis]

But what does only 3 creatures having plainswalk have to do with Great Wall by itself in a vacuum? Great Wall isn't a bad card, it's just a victim of its surroundings.

If Wizards printed 100 plainswalkers in the next set, then would Great Wall still be a bad card? In my opinion, it wouldn't be (Although obviously not great).

No card exists in a vacuum.

With your reasoning, there's no bad card at all. It's not Pale Moon fault that there isn't any other cards to make it awesome. If Wizard printed cards with only colored mana symbols on it and tons of duals to support them, then Pale Moon would effectively be turned into a Time Walk.

[Dilettante]

But what does only 3 creatures having plainswalk have to do with Great Wall by itself in a vacuum? Great Wall isn't a bad card, it's just a victim of its surroundings.

If Wizards printed 100 plainswalkers in the next set, then would Great Wall still be a bad card? In my opinion, it wouldn't be (Although obviously not great).

Or if landwalk at all became prevalent, like with Filth... Then you can always combine Great Wall with Magical Hack... In those days, I think we were still playing with 40-card decks... Stupid Bog Wraiths/Moor Fiends/Zombie Masters/Phantasmal Terrain sneaking past Wall of Swords...

But yeah, still horrible. It's still a 3/3 with Opalescence! And it gets around Counterbalance! Bleah.

[Tacosnape]

Tobias Andrion and Leviathan should be automatically disqualified from this list as anything that pitches to Force of Will can't be the worst card in magic.

[PhanTom_lt]

Tobias Andrion and Leviathan should be automatically disqualified from this list as anything that pitches to Force of Will can't be the worst card in magic.

Tarmogoyf should automatically go on this list as it can't be pitched to Force of Will, therefore, it might be the worst card out there.

[Tacosnape]

Tarmogoyf should automatically go on this list as it can't be pitched to Force of Will, therefore, it might be the worst card out there.

I was actually being quite serious. Tobias Andrion pitches to Force of Will and is actually a 4/4 kill condition. He's not -good- by any means, but he could have a practical use in a game of magic, either in Legacy or in a subpar cube draft, which is better than most of the cards on the list.

[Afro]

Great Wall with an Opalescence in play is a wincon. These type of arguments of very situational circumstances(blue cards pitching to force, lands producing mana with portal in yard) are dumb.

[ParkerLewis]

Great Wall with an Opalescence in play is a wincon. These type of arguments of very situational circumstances(blue cards pitching to force, lands producing mana with portal in yard) are dumb.

I agree with taco on this one. Tobias is always a wincon - no "situationally" here. And although clearly not good, it's impact on the game is orders of magnitude more important than Shit Wall.

Plus, "situational" is NOT dumb. When you're discussing the worst card in Magic's history, that's all you're going to get. This is actually more evidence that Tobias doesn't belong here, as he has some actual gameplay value no matter what.

[Aleksandr]

EDIT 2: After writing all this crap about banding, I instead nominate whatever creature first introduced the banding mechanic. or posibly this or this or this this mechanic is just demoralizing.

But look for the flavor text of Baton of Morale! Goblins would kill for it! And You wanna dismiss it?
Look, it could be useful:

1st turn: Lackey
2nd turn: Lackey into SGC, Piledriver
3rd turn: Mox, Baton of Morale
him: I "concede"

[Tacosnape]

Great Wall with an Opalescence in play is a wincon. These type of arguments of very situational circumstances(blue cards pitching to force, lands producing mana with portal in yard) are dumb.

They aren't dumb when you're trying to ascertain the worst card in the entire game. Any distant situational use has to be taken into consideration.

[Afro]

They aren't dumb when you're trying to ascertain the worst card in the entire game. Any distant situational use has to be taken into consideration.

With this logic you'll never achieve to find a "worst" card in magic. Every card is good in situations when you can get a 5-10 card combo going uninterrupted to win the game. These discussions are fucking pointless.

[ParkerLewis]

With this logic you'll never achieve to find a "worst" card in magic. Every card is good in situations when you can get a 5-10 card combo going uninterrupted to win the game. These discussions are fucking pointless.

And yet, some will end up even more situational than others. With even less of an impact. That's what will determine the worst.

Who even thought there would actually be a point discussing the worst card in the first place, as it's by definition unplayable ? If you're not having fun doing it, just don't :) What's actually pointless is getting heated up over this :)

[kicks_422]

1st turn: Lackey
2nd turn: Lackey into SGC, Piledriver
him: I "concede"

Fixed.

[TeenieBopper]

How in the world did this thread get to the fourth page?

[Di]

It's ok. Now it's on the locked page.