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    Re: The Servant's Stone

    IMO the strength of this combo is its versatility. You can run it in any deck that supports Trinket Mage. I think the idea of a transformational sideboard has been underused in Legacy. You could do some pretty wacky things with this combo. Let's say your playing Threshold (white splash). You could have in your sideboard:

    x4 Enlightened Tutor
    x4 Grindstone
    x4 Painter's Servant
    x3 Trinket Mage

    Surprise! I'm a combo deck now!

    Another thing I like about this combo is that it is faster than the Time Vault combo.
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    Re: The Servant's Stone

    how about this... a BW deck.

    turn 1.

    Scrub..
    play lions eye diamond
    tap scrub for black
    play dark ritual...
    play stone
    play other dude
    pop lions eye ... win.

    ^_^
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    Re: The Servant's Stone

    Quote Originally Posted by rodgon666 View Post
    how about this... a BW deck.
    If you want the combo to be your main win condition, you need maindeck or else you are vulnerable to disruption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revenge_inc View Post
    If you want the combo to be your main win condition, you need maindeck or else you are vulnerable to disruption.
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    Or black to disrupt first; I can see the combo fitting into a pox style deck quite nicely.

    Of course, if it ever becomes too popular, Pithing Needle foils it pretty easily and it's not like Krosan Grip isn't played.

    Still, it makes an interesting transformational sideboard possibility and has the potential to be ridiculous in multiplayer games.

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    Re: The Servant's Stone

    What about a green splash for tarmogoyf (oh yeah) and Living Wish? If not Tarmgoyf, then Living Wish should at the least be considered. It's also a beast against extirpate :)

    Anyway, sweet combo, I like to see that be performed in action. Too bad Painter's Servant can't be grabbed with Trinket Mage.

    Transmute Artifact could also be a solution. You would then have to play some 2cc artifacts (obv.), like Umezawa's Jitte? Hey, I got it! An affinity backup plan, or is this too janky?

    EDIT: Oh, I am blind! I see that Happy Gilmore already got the idea. Never mind what I said about affinity.
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    There's also Painter's Servant + Deathgrip/Lifeforce
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    Re: The Servant's Stone

    This combo is one of the best ones in legacy. But you have to run it like a control combo deck, that can win fairly easily on turn 4.

    Mana 20
    7 Island
    1 Plains
    1 Tundra
    2 Academy Ruins
    4 Flooded Strand
    4 Polluted Delta
    1 Seat of Synod

    Cantrip/Draw/Search: 17
    4 Enlightened Tutor
    4 Brainstorm
    3 Thirst for Knowledge
    3 Trinket Mage
    3 SDT

    Permission: 11
    4 FoW
    3 Counterbalance
    4 Counterspell

    Combo : 7
    3 Grindstone
    4 Painter's Servant

    Misc: 3
    3 EE

    2 Meta slots among
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    1 Tormod's Crypt
    1 Powder Keg

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    Re: The Servant's Stone

    Painter's servant also enables Reap pretty well. I kind of like this new card now.

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    Yes, Painter's Servant probably has a lot of uses to be discovered. I don't think I like Enlightened Tutor in a deck that already features so much search. Is the splash really worth it for just this card?
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    Re: The Servant's Stone

    The biggest problem for this deck is called Swords to Plowshares. Thank the FSM you don't have to tap the Servant itself, but they can still remove it whenever you decide to Grind them.
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    Re: The Servant's Stone

    Which is not really a problem, because you'll find another one or you'll counterspell/balance, or you'll bring it back with academy ruins. The biggest problems are more grips and extirpates.

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    Re: The Servant's Stone

    Quote Originally Posted by Illissius View Post
    The biggest problem for this deck is called Swords to Plowshares. Thank the FSM you don't have to tap the Servant itself, but they can still remove it whenever you decide to Grind them.
    You could splash green for Goyf, or put in Stiflenaught, that way they have to use their plows on the big guys or die. Also gives you another way to win.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maveric78f View Post
    Which is not really a problem, because you'll find another one or you'll counterspell/balance, or you'll bring it back with academy ruins.
    Painter isnt coming back via Ruins if he gets Plowed. Just sayin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xsockmonkeyx View Post
    Painter isnt coming back via Ruins if he gets Plowed. Just sayin.
    You could always try to mill yourself with Grindstone, trying to get one into the graveyard and then bring it back with Academy Ruins

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    I have not tested this deck yet although I may start it seems rather interesting. As a side idea could we try running abeyance and chant as proactive protection similar to the style of Fetchland Tendrils (my current weapon of choice) It seems really good in theory although I'm not really sure it could be run in the current UW list that is on here from Maveric. Though for the record Maveric I highly disagree that this is one of the best combos in legacy... It is way to new to be saying something like that. It hasnt even put up a T8 since it has been out for less then a month (spoiler wise).

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    Re: The Servant's Stone

    Quote Originally Posted by nodahero View Post
    It is way to new to be saying something like that. It hasnt even put up a T8 since it has been out for less then a month (spoiler wise).

    WTF; you can't even play with the card yet! This combo is compact and available to every color, at first glance it seems very strong

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    Re: The Servant's Stone

    Rings/Vault is the baseline. Relatively, Servant/Stone is a bit faster -- one fewer mana total, and doesn't require waiting a turn to activate -- but is vulnerable to creature removal. The former didn't rip up the format, and I doubt the latter will either. It's comparable to Swan/Chain which costs the same total mana and has many of the same vulnerabilities (and was introduced with the same set), and to Cephalid Breakfast, which costs half the mana but is vulnerable to even more things. So it could be pretty decent, but I doubt anything more than that.

    Completely tangential note: I sometimes wish Illusionary Mask were legal, so you could run Counter-Top and Mask(/Stifle)-Nought in the same deck and use Enlightened Tutor to find either.
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    Re: The Servant's Stone

    Quote Originally Posted by Gambit View Post
    WTF; you can't even play with the card yet!
    That's no excuse!

    The mirror match with would be stupid - whoever plays Painter's Servant first loses.

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    Re: The Servant's Stone

    Wouldn't Misdirection be a great protection spell with Painter's Servant already out?
    If you set the servant to blue you can pitch everything to protect it from spot removal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silthyn View Post
    You could always try to mill yourself with Grindstone, trying to get one into the graveyard and then bring it back with Academy Ruins
    I dont follow. The fact that Plow RFG's Painter is mutually exclusive to the Grindstone/Academy interaction.
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    Re: The Servant's Stone

    Quote Originally Posted by Spectör View Post
    Wouldn't Misdirection be a great protection spell with Painter's Servant already out?
    If you set the servant to blue you can pitch everything to protect it from spot removal.
    I love how we are already discussing the mirror match of a combo deck that doesn't even have an agreed upon decklist. The first step is deciding what colours the deck should be. My thoughts:
    -not red, wtf does this colour do to speed up, find or protect your combo? Nothing.
    -not green, this combo is too cheap for mana accel to be really relevant. I don't see what this colour offers either.
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    You could splash green for Goyf
    Not every deck in the format needs a goyf.
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