[Deck] The Servant's Stone

[revenge_inc]

You set Painter to red and play Absolute Law to give it protection from everything.

But why would you want to do this when a Counterspell will suffice (and protects from a broader range of threats)? When you're racing to combo off why not the cheaper Benevolent Bodyguard.

[Cavius The Great]

I don't get why you would play Absolute Law. Please elaborate.



The problem is Gaea's Blessing. Remember that thread about why people hate you? I don't think people hate you but many don't take you seriously as a deck designer. Ever think it has something to do with the fact that you're wasting time advocating Jester's Cap, an artifact that cost to play and to activate, when in fact good ol' Tormod's Crypt will do the job for ? Just something to think about.

Until you Top8 in a tournament with your own creation, you really can't tell me anything.

And I totally overlooked Tormod's Crypt, my bad.

[Isamaru]

Sample UG Painter Survival

20 Lands, including Academy Ruins

4 Birds of Paradise
X Llanowar Elves
X Coiling Oracle / Wall of Roots
X Krosan Tusker

4 Survival of the Fittest
(1 Squee, Goblin Nabob)
4 Painter's Servant
4 Trinket Mage
3 Grinestone

4 Tarmogoyf (only as blocker)
4 Eternal Witness
1 Tradewind Rider
1 Phyrexian Dreadnought
1 Mulldrifter / Ohran Viper

4 Primal Command/Temporal Spring / Ponder/Brainstorm
4 Stifle
1 Pithing Needle
1+ Engineered Explosives

Sideboard
X Blue Elemental Blast
X Hydroblast

This list could also be merged with any number of other ideas, from Gifts Ungiven or Intuition, to the generic Counterbalance crap.

[revenge_inc]

And I totally overlooked Tormod's Crypt, my bad.

WTF? It was mentioned several times in the thread! This means that either you post in a thread without reading or you have serious short-term memory loss.
Before your post there was:

The main thing we need to figure out right now is which of the below cards to include in the deck...
One Ofs: EE, Pithing Needle, Tormod's Crypt

My solution to that is to activate tormod crypt in resp.

Because of how Grindstone works, one of Crypt maindeck answers both Cane and any number of blessings.

The repeating process is all one resolution, so if you have crypt in play you can respond to all of the blessing triggers at once with one activation.

Until you Top8 in a tournament with your own creation, you really can't tell me anything.

Just because you top 8 once (or even several times) doesn't mean you stop learning from others. I was brutally honest. That is all.

[Sanguine Voyeur]

But why would you want to do this when a Counterspell will suffice?

I'm not defending it, just explaining it.

It seems to fall under the danger of cool things.

[vanele]

I was just pointing it out really, but yeah your probably right about the dangers of cool things.

[Happy Gilmore]

Absolute law is still a useful consideration, especially as a 1 of post board to fetch with tutor.

Keep in mind it also shuts off the Swan combo.

Keep up the good ideas guys.

[Isamaru]

Keep in mind it also shuts off the Swan combo.

This is ridiculously hot, and thank you for pointing that out.

[revenge_inc]

Rule of law is still a useful consideration, especially as a 1 of post board to fetch with tutor.

Keep in mind it also shuts off the Swan combo.

Keep up the good ideas guys.

I don't want to assume anything but you could be confusing Absolute Law with Rule of Law.

[Isamaru]

It gives Swan protection from red.

Anyway, people are finally realizing how good Enlightened Tutor is. Oblivion Ring and Sun and Moon Wheel are only more reasons...

[Michael Keller]

Just as a random side-note:

The price on Painter's Servant is ridiculously unstable. I bought a foil set for $42.00 on E-Bay, but you can buy a plain set of four for 5 bucks. Pretty strange.

[goobafish]

I already bought 48 of them.

[Isamaru]

This isn't Tarmogoyf, people.

[revenge_inc]

I will get my playset (as well as find myself some Grindstones). However I do not think it will have much of an impact on Standard (probably a small one Extended).
This card is at about $1.50 now and I doubt it will go above $5.

[Clark Kant]

Is Grindstone legal in extended?

I don't think it is.

Without this combo, it's just a card that casuals play to do neat tricks with cards like absolute law imo.

And legacy is a fast enough format that this combo is pretty casual too imho, tier two at best.

It's going to be at best a $2-3 rare, probably lower, quote me on it.

[Michael Keller]

This isn't Tarmogoyf, people.

Again, the initial purchasing price on this card varies from very high to very low. It won't go beyond 5 to 6 dollars a card. But I got a set of foils for a moderate price.

And why the hell would someone buy 48 of them? Unless you're a shop owner I see no reason to pick up that many. That's just ludicrous.

[goobafish]

At less than 5 dollars a set shipped, it isn't a big risk. It will be a popular casual card at worst. Moving cards isn't a problem for me.

[Isamaru]

You're a mover and a shaker.

So did anyone see that UG sample I posted?

[Clark Kant]

Who here has the guts to try out that F. Stompy build I put together.

Combo Fairies

// Lands
3 [ON] Polluted Delta
3 [ON] Flooded Strand
3 [OD] Island
4 [TE] Ancient Tomb
4 [EX] City of Traitors

// Creatures
4 [CK] Painter's Servant
4 [RV] Phyrexian Dreadnought
4 [RV] Serendib Efreet
4 [P2] Sea Drake
3 [MR] Trinket Mage

// Spells
4 [6E] Brainstorm
4 [DS] Stifle
4 [AL] Force of Will
4 [MR] Chrome Mox
3 [TE] Grindstone
3 [MR] Intuition/Fabricate
2 [TS] Vision Charm

Seriously, I dare you. Frankly, I'm terrified just thinking about it.

[revenge_inc]

Who here has the guts to try out that F. Stompy build I put together.

In the FS thread Yamaelle made his case for the exclusion of combo in FS. I think a combo can be added to the deck but not 2. Abandon the dreadnought plan and just stick with the Servant's Stone plan (possibly sideboard). (note: I do not take Yamaelle's criticism lightly, he has had perhaps the greatest tournament success with FS to date).