Miracle Control

[potatodavid]

You did nothing wrong. Goodbye. You will be missed.

[ozimek]

Well, for a few months I have had a short break from Legacy, and now this.

At least the condolences from non-miracles players warm a little.

The questions that remains after all the whining is: What now?

Assuming one can find the motivation to pick up a new deck, what will be the best (or least bad) control deck?

• I suppose the most obvious answer is the 4CC deck with Leopold that have been cropping up left and right?
• Death Blade? - Not true control as it is more midrange
• UW Landstill? - Not proactive enough?
• Blue Moon Modern port? Seems like it might have a decent matchup vs 4CC and Elves with Pyroclasm or it's big brothers.

Could some unknown UWx build compete? Are 4CMC sweepers playable in Legacy? I'm guessing no.

Will Mana Drain be unbanned to compensate control players?

[BadGones]

Top didn't deserve it, I thought Terminus will go first and would change the metagame, with people still relying on CB/Top strategies...
I'm clearly sad for the format on this day, although I'm a Storm player.

Good Luck Miracles players, time has come to make a new Control Challenger to enter the ring :)

[jdmdave]

So do we migrate to UW/X stoneblade, try to make some jank with scrollrack work, or just give up.

[CutthroatCasual]

So do we migrate to UW/X stoneblade, try to make some jank with scrollrack work, or just give up.

People with money or collection to do so will move to BUGx, people without will try UWx Stoneblade but that's objectively inferior to the value engine that's BUGx. Terminus will be a 2-of max, ETA is useless, CB is useless.

[Karhumies]

The questions that remains after all the whining is: What now?

Assuming one can find the motivation to pick up a new deck, what will be the best (or least bad) control deck?

• I suppose the most obvious answer is the 4CC deck with Leopold that have been cropping up left and right?
• Death Blade? - Not true control as it is more midrange
• UW Landstill? - Not proactive enough?
• Blue Moon Modern port? Seems like it might have a decent matchup vs 4CC and Elves with Pyroclasm or it's big brothers.

Could some unknown UWx build compete? Are 4CMC sweepers playable in Legacy? I'm guessing no.

Will Mana Drain be unbanned to compensate control players?

Control-ish archetypes:

BGx "rock" board control: anything with Pernicious Deed (and Gurmag Angler) and/or Toxic Deluge. Add blue for FoW and/or white for StoP. This should become a popular archetype with a bunch of different builds. Geared towards winning against stock BUG lists.

Tempo-Control: Delver Variants, Merfolk

Combo-Control: e.g. Painter-Stone, Splinter Twin, monoblue OmniTell, Ub Reanimator, Sneaky Show, High Tide, Stiflenought

Stompy decks / anything with Chalice @1: Eldrazi, Monored Stompy (Blood Moon, Magus, Fiery Confluence, Trinisphere, possible to run Ensnaring Bridge)

Lands based control: The Tabernacle, Grove of the Burnwillows, Wasteland, Life from the Loam, etc.

Midrange value control: Stoneforge Mystic and/or Monastery Mentor based lists running extra colors. Stoneblade, Deadguy Ale, Old school UW tempo, new variants.

Discard/sacrifice/Prison based control: Pox, Stax, Stasis, etc. Typically not very viable anymore.

Old-school Ugx "Miracle Grow" with Quirion Dryad + DRS?

Some UW control waiting to be brewed (with Standstill?)?

Some Ur Aggro-control list running Price of Progress?

Restore Balance control? Probably not possible to pull off reliably.


Terminus would still be somewhat viable in a Bant shell control deck with Brainstorm and Sylvan Library / Mirri's Guile, but SL/MG extra copies are redundant and you don't get the CB lock. In other words, yes it gets rid of creatures but it's bad vs non-creature combo. Dropping white for black (Pernicious Deed, Fatal Push, Maelstrom Pulse, Abrupt Decay, Toxic Deluge, Damnation, Thoughtseize/IoK) seems superior to jumping through hoops to enable Terminus.

[twndomn]

Soothsaying

Mana cost: U
Type: Enchantment
Effect of card: 3UU: Shuffle your library.
X: Look at the top X cards of your library, then put them back in any order.

I'm kidding.

[Marungo]

As a DnT player, my condolences. You didn't deserve to have your deck killed. A terminus ban made more sense. What now is the question? Loved playing vs miracles, and again sorry for the killing blow.

[Razorking]

As a 12 post player i feel very sad but i know it is for the wrong reasons.

[Crimhead]

I am a Lands player and will miss having a hard permission based control deck to play against. Basically every other (noncombo) deck becomes an aggro deck against RUG Lands. This was my only real control vs control match.

Maybe Scroll rack will make a T-1.5 Miracles deck?
Maybe Tezz will rise to the occasion?

[MGB]

Bahahaha!

This stupid deck is no more!

<- someone who played Ancient Tomb decks that actually had a good winning percentage against Miracles but is STILL super happy to see this terrible tournament-wrecking card banned.

[Sansian]

I guess it's a measure of how infrequently Legacy sees a ban, but it's pretty weird to come in here and see people celebrating in what was likely the largest single strategy thread on the site (and now it's basically a graveyard). I mean Miracles is the only deck that I've fundamentally disliked enough to sell out of three times, but still, it was a hell of a contender.

[gh0st_b1rd]

Time to dust off my Portents nauw.

[LarsLeif]

So long and thanks for all the fish Miracles. I was always on the other side and got to watch you grow up. Fare thee well! :(

[Jeff]

Time to dust off my Portents nauw.

You know you want to

http://sales.starcitygames.com//deck...p?DeckID=47558

[acidhead]

As a 12 post player i feel very sad but i know it is for the wrong reasons.

This made my day! :D

[gh0st_b1rd]

You know you want to

http://sales.starcitygames.com//deck...p?DeckID=47558

You figured out my Hatfields <3.

[Manipulato]

I personally think that a ban against this deck was needed but really not Sensei's Divining Top! I voted for Counterbalance because then the deck could still exist but well...

Played always on the other side again this deck and it was a pleasure, sorry guys, you have my feelings!

Everyone whos thinking about quit magic from now on...Just stop! Dont jump from this bridge my friend! Legacy offers more than just Sensei's Divining Top

[TheBoozeCube]

Sorry for your loss. As a 12 Post player, I always defended Miracles's place in the metagame. I hope you all find a way to keep control alive.


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[Kyle]

I personally think that a ban against this deck was needed but really not Sensei's Divining Top! I voted for Counterbalance because then the deck could still exist but well...

Played always on the other side again this deck and it was a pleasure, sorry guys, you have my feelings!

Everyone whos thinking about quit magic from now on...Just stop! Dont jump from this bridge my friend! Legacy offers more than just Sensei's Divining Top

Miracles getting killed by this ban is dismal, but what is equally depressing is the lack of faith control players will have for WoTC going forward. Or am I being delusional?