[PRIMER] Oozing

[Havrekjex]

2-2 at our local Tuesday Night Magic with a classic Raystar BUG list, only with two Decay main over the Mox and a CT.

Miracles 0-2. It's Miracles. He knows what I'm playing, so there's no element of surprise to leverage in G1.
Reanimator 1-2. Felt like three close games this time. I went with the brave and bold Seal'n'Exhume sideboard plan, started a game with Seal in hand on the play, but he went T1 land-petal-entomb-reanimate. I guess that's what it feels like to play against us.
Nic Fit 2-0. That deck seems way weak to combo, though they do beat you up very quickly if you stumble.
Storm 2-1. It's a race and I got good hands.

Nothing new or interesting here, I guess, all these results feel on par with expectations for the matchups.

[Begle1]

I don't feel like Oozing has a worse match-up than Reanimator. Try to disrupt them with discard and pray for the Ground Seal to hold up? Meanwhile, they have counterspells, a limited discard suite and a fast clock.

[Havrekjex]

We had some discussion about the Reanimator matchup a while back and didn`t really come to an agreement. I think they`re favoured, but it`s not completely impossible. If you mean that it`s our absolute worst matchup, I disagree, if for nothing else then just for factoring in Miracles as a worse matchup.

The two decks have very similar game plans. If they reanimate Iona or Griselbrand, they pretty much win every bit as much as we do with our combo. On top of that they have counters and arguably a bit more redundancy, while we are faster, though that doesn`t help much if we Ritual into FoW. We also can`t Buried Alive our combo and let it sit in our yard for a turn because they have Reanimate. If there is anything working in our favor, it`s probably the Ground Seal plan, particularly since they are very likely to take out Exhumes, though that forces us to not add any Surgicals we might have from the board, and swapping Reanimates for Exhumes make us slower and can lead to a surprise Entomb from them into our Exhume. It`s tricky.

[Pin_Vlc]

New crazy sb !

1 Phyrexian Devourer
1 Triskelion
2 Griselbrand
1 Necrotic Ooze

4 Brainstorm
4 Dark Ritual
4 Entomb
4 Shallow Grave

4 Force of will
4 Gitaxian Probe
1 Reanimate
1 Exhume
3 Buried Alive
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Ponder
4 Lotus Petal

1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
2 Island
1 Misty Rainforest
2 Swamp
2 Underground Sea
3 Verdant Catacombs
4 Polluted Delta

SB
4 Doomsday
1 Emrakul
1 Shelldock Isle
1 laboratory maniac
2 Echoing Truth
1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
2 massacre
1 necrotic ooze
2 pitting needle

3 round tournament

R1 Food chain.

G1 Gitaxian+cabal+lotus+cabal let me reanimate griselbrand in t3 .Fow to food chain and strike 3 times for win .
G2 Change to DD combo . gitaxian+cabal ,and t2 ponder and t3 ponder for play DD with ritual . Shelldock+Emrakul won the game.

R2 BURN
G1 T2 Griselbrand, 3 hits and won .
G2 i coulnd change to DD , im was flooded and lose to lavamancer + pop .
G3 T2 brainstorm , that was countered to pyroblast and i lose xD .

R3 LANDS
G1 i know what its my opp deck, and g3 buried+ reanimate for ooze win .
G2 i Change to DD , and he played spheres, rishadan and karakas... i cant win.
G3 Restore deck and only take 2 echoring true . T2 buried alive, t3 exhume and easy win .

Mooooooooooooooooooore sb !!!!!!!!!!!! XD

[Pin_Vlc]

New top with doomsday sideboard .

R1 Grixis
T1 deathrite, t2 deathrite...
T1 deathrite, and 2 cabal therapy destroy my hand and the game .

R2 Goblins
G1 griselbrand come fast, and 1 fow to piledriver won the game .
G2 a lot of goblins destroy me
G3 T1 buried alive,t2 shallow and win easy .

R3 Miracle
G1 gitaxian and cabal clean the path for the win in t3 with buried alive+reanimate
G2 change to doomsday for t2 doomsday and emrakul win .

R4 shardless bug
G1 deathrite taps for mana , in the end entomb+shallow, gets fow , in my turn shallow and win .
G2 Doomsday , play pitting wasteland and emrakul kills 2 deathrite and my opp .

R5 miracle
G1 win fast with griselbrand and necrotic
G2 change to doomsday , but he plays meedling mage to emrakul... mentor kills me .
G3 another time doomsday and this time, maniac let me win .

Top8 team america
G1 a topdecked fow for my opp, fucks my win .
G2 change to doomsday, but this time, deathrite+confident+spell pierce stop my plan .

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The next sunday i will play OOZING in mkm of madrid , go go go go go go !!!

[pandaman]

I've been playing Mono U OmniClash for a while, but I'm missing Dark Rituals.

Pin_vlc, great results, and some nice spice in the sideboard! How did you go at MKM?

I've been revisiting my deck structure, and I think I want to cut Ponder for more discard and a greater number of combo pieces:

2 Swamp
1 Island
3 Underground Sea
2 Bayou
4 Polluted Delta
3 Verdant Catacombs
4 Lotus Petal
4 Dark Ritual
1 Chrome Mox

3 Necrotic Ooze
1 Phyrexian Devourer
1 Triskelion
1 Griselbrand

4 Entomb
3 Buried Alive

4 Shallow Grave
2 Reanimate
1 Exhume

4 Gitaxian Probe
4 Cabal Therapy
3 Thoughtseize

4 Brainstorm

Sideboard (15)

4 Abrupt Decay
2 Reverent Silence
4 Ground Seal
2 Exhume
3 Massacre

I'll give it a bash over the next month and report back.

[Pin_Vlc]

Thx Panda , this is my report from MKM .

1 Phyrexian Devourer
1 Triskelion
2 Griselbrand
3 Necrotic Ooze

4 Brainstorm
4 Dark Ritual
4 Entomb
4 Shallow Grave

1 Reanimate
2 Duress
1 Dark Petition
2 Exhume
3 Buried Alive
4 Cabal Therapy
1 Thoughtseize
4 Ponder
4 Lotus Petal

1 Bayou
1 Island
1 Misty Rainforest
2 Swamp
1 Tropical Island
2 Underground Sea
3 Verdant Catacombs
4 Polluted Delta

SB
1 Echoing Truth
1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
2 massacre
3 Abrupt Decay
2 Ground Seal
2 Massacre
2 Swan Song
1 Flusterstom
1 Boseiju, Who Shelters All

R1 Bye , i won a trial last month

R2 Eldrazi Wu
G1 was fast , i won easy.
G2 He draws a lot of hate, and i couldnt did more.
G3 I had the combo in graveyard, but he counter 2 times my exhume with warping wail, and finaly eats me .

R3 Reanimator
G1 iona --> black .
G2 i mull to 5 , i play duress, and in his turn, tzt to discard me entomb. In my turn draw another entomb and iona--> black .
G3 Discard&counters wars 4tw ! . Swan song def my buried and then i cast necrotic and won .

R4 Infect

G1&G2 t3 kill infected ... toooooo fast !

R5 D&T
G1 t2 buried , and t4 exhume for easy win .
G2 He played RIP, 3 turn later, abrup decay it, but we stay at topdeck, he started with mangara+karakas, but i draw a lot of lands . I draw dark petition and win the game , i had a lot of mana .

R6 Ad nauseam
G1 t1 griselbrand with exhume ,he played a flooded strand, and said...you win .
G2 I sb 3 abrup decay, and t2 ad nauseam and storm from 20 .
G3 Iona--> black let me won .

4-2 , i cant top8 but i can take money !

R7 Show and tell UR
G1 t2 Show and tell into omni , into GG .
G2 was amazing . Discard, a lot of counters, more counters , more discard... finally i can resolved a Iona --> blue, but with senseis, sneack+emrakul won the game :S .

4-3 DROP ! XD

[fuzzycoatimundi]

Having just seen Aether Revolt spoilers, wondering if Walking Ballista is worth running over Triskelion?

http://www.magicspoiler.com/mtg-spoi...king-ballista/

Downside is you can't reanimate it, upside is you can discard for free from hand.

[Namida]

Not worth it. Not being able to reanimate this card is a pretty big downside since being able to surprise your opponents with the 3 damage is really good against creature decks. This card is only marginally better than Triskelion in every circumstance other than being a silver bullet target, but we play more Entombs and Buried Alives than Triskelions. Also, not only is it relatively easy to discard creature cards, we don't even need to since can still win without Trike by making large Oozes, so you're not gaining a ton at all by gaining the ability to discard this card at will.

[Pin_Vlc]

Having just seen Aether Revolt spoilers, wondering if Walking Ballista is worth running over Triskelion?

http://www.magicspoiler.com/mtg-spoi...king-ballista/

Downside is you can't reanimate it, upside is you can discard for free from hand.

Maybe a nice update . I dont play P. imp , and the autodiscard would be cool !

Very few times i reanimated Triskelion...

Some1 continue playing the deck ? Collective brutality its a must !

[pandaman]

Haven't played this in a while, but thinking Walking Ballista is a straight swap for Triskelion.

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[Raystar]

Haven't played this in a while, but thinking Walking Ballista is a straight swap for Triskelion.

Completely agree ;)

[pandaman]

So, Top got the axe. Miracles was our worst matchup. Are we back? I know I'm keen to get Oozing again!

[Raystar]

So, Top got the axe. Miracles was our worst matchup. Are we back? I know I'm keen to get Oozing again!

I think I'll start tomorrow lol

[Pin_Vlc]

So, Top got the axe. Miracles was our worst matchup. Are we back? I know I'm keen to get Oozing again!

My poor matchup its Grixis , but miracles... the second !

I will try a list without green ...

[pandaman]

My poor matchup its Grixis , but miracles... the second !

I will try a list without green ...

Grixis is difficult, I agree. You can't play the Ooze because of Lightning Bolt, but they also have Deathrite Shaman.

They might switch to Fatal Push instead of Decay now, though, which would be better for us, because they're cold to a G2 Ground Seal. If you can resolve a Seal it's usually over for them.

[Zooligan]

So what would a good basic md/sb list look like post-top? I assume Ground Seal is even more important now because of the expected increase in DRS.

Also, how bad does Harsh Mentor hose this deck?

Thoughts?

[Raystar]

So what would a good basic md/sb list look like post-top? I assume Ground Seal is even more important now because of the expected increase in DRS.

Also, how bad does Harsh Mentor hose this deck?

Thoughts?

I haven't had the time to test yet. My take is that Green may stay in to support anti-hate like Leyline (that I believe will be a lot more common post top ban). At the same time there may be an argument for a U/B version that sports bounce in side.

Given that you are new to the deck, I would start with the tested B/U/G versions in the primer, they are a lot of fun to play ;)

[Zooligan]

After reading thru the primer and part of the previous thread, I'm going to build this what-appears-to-be-a-basic BUg list with 61 cards (is that normal??).

2 Swamp
1 Island
2 Underground Sea
2 Bayou
4 Polluted Delta
4 Verdant Catacombs

4 Dark Ritual
4 Lotus Petal
1 Chrome Mox

3 Necrotic Ooze
1 Triskelion
1 Phyrexian Devourer
1 Putrid Imp
1 Griselbrand

4 Shallow Grave
2 Reanimate
1 Exhume
4 Entomb
3 Buried Alive

4 Gitaxian Probe
4 Cabal Therapy

4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder

I saw some discussion re:GitProbe/Therapy vs. Thoughtseize/Therapy. What was the consensus? I never could find a resolution. Or is it still an ongoing debate? Also wondering if Collective Brutality and/or Unmask which see play in BR Reanimator have any place in the deck.

Not sure what to use as a SB with the meta in flux... ideas?

EDIT: I built this on MTGO and ran a few games. I'm so obviously a noob at the deck!! LOL

[pandaman]

So what would a good basic md/sb list look like post-top? I assume Ground Seal is even more important now because of the expected increase in DRS.

Also, how bad does Harsh Mentor hose this deck?

Thoughts?

It would look pretty much the same as pre-ban. Abrupt Decay, Ground Seal, and Reverent Silence are all still great answers to Deathrite Shaman, Surgical Extraction, Scavenging Ooze, Leyline of the Void, and Rest in Peace.

Harsh Mentor deals us at least six damage: two for the first Devourer ability activation, and four more for two Triskelion/Walking Ballista activations to kill the Harsh Mentor. That's provided you hit a 2CMC card on your first Devourer. If you don't it's going to be two more damage for each Devourer activation to get those two +1+1 counters.

I would stick with the primer list with Gitaxian Probe+Cabal Therapy, and the sideboard would be:

4 Ground Seal
2 Exhumed
4 Abrupt Decay
2/3 Reverent Silence
2/3 Thoughtseize

depending on how much Leyline/RiP/Enchantress (lol RevSil is so good there) is in your meta.

Depending on how many midrange decks drop Decays for Fatal Push due to the decline of Counterbalance, I think we could even consider some Sylvan Library sideboard action. In a deck where you're usually just one card away from crushing your opponent, seeing that three cards in your draw step would be worth exploring if you can keep it on the table.

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