Enough people are fine with the switch, so Reep now plays the following four:
Reeplcheep: Mishra's Factory, Swamp, Deathspore Thallid, Innocent blood
Last edited by Asthereal; 11-20-2020 at 07:17 AM.
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EldraziSmashmaster Results for Round "Don't Force Combo"
1. Asthereal (TO): Saprazzan Skerry, Force of Will, Infiltrator il-Kor, Infiltrator il-Kor
You use the Force 0-6
2. Reeplcheep: Mishra's Factory, Swamp, Deathspore Thallid, Innocent blood
You draw first Blood 3-3
3. dte: Plains, Cenn's Tactician, Gideon's Lawkeeper, deftblade elite
Eldrazi smash! 6-0
4. alphastryk: Saprazzan Skerry, Force of Will, Infiltrator il-Kor, Infiltrator il-Kor
You use the Force 0-6
5. Wrath of Pie: Swamp, Wildfield Borderpost, Tidehollow Sculler, Putrid Leech
Discard 3-3
6. H: Mountain, Reckless Waif, Forge Devil, Death Spark
Eldrazi smash! 6-0
7. GoblinSmashmaster: Hickory Woodlot, Channel, Eldrazi Devastator, Porcelain Legionnaire
That's me!
8. silkster: Forest, Lush Growth, Granger Guildmage, Utopia Mycon
LD 0-6
9. Tylert: Island, Aether vial, Qasali pridemage, Faceless butcher
Eldrazi smash, then stare at the Butcher 4-1
10. maxx!: Keldon Megaliths, Gruul Turf, Sparksmith, Tin Street Hooligan
Eldrazi smash! 6-0
11. FTW: Saprazzan Skerry, Force of Will, Phantasmal Terrain, Infiltrator il-Kor
LD 1-4
Total: 28 points
1. Asthereal (TO): Saprazzan Skerry, Force of Will, Infiltrator il-Kor, Infiltrator il-Kor
2. Reeplcheep: Mishra's Factory, Swamp, Deathspore Thallid, Innocent blood
3. dte: Plains, Cenn's Tactician, Gideon's Lawkeeper, deftblade elite
4. alphastryk: Saprazzan Skerry, Force of Will, Infiltrator il-Kor, Infiltrator il-Kor
5. Wrath of Pie: Swamp, Wildfield Borderpost, Tidehollow Sculler, Putrid Leech
6. H: Mountain, Reckless Waif, Forge Devil, Death Spark
7. GoblinSmashmaster: Hickory Woodlot, Channel, Eldrazi Devastator, Porcelain Legionnaire
8. silkster: Forest, Lush Growth, Granger Guildmage, Utopia Mycon
9. Tylert: Island, Aether vial, Qasali pridemage, Faceless butcher
10. maxx!: Keldon Megaliths, Gruul Turf, Sparksmith, Tin Street Hooligan
11. FTW: Saprazzan Skerry, Force of Will, Phantasmal Terrain, Infiltrator il-Kor
1. Asthereal: Force of will has to be banned :) 0-6 --> 0
2. Reeplcheep: Innocent blood kills pridemage, butcher removes Thallid and as I have received forst damage. I stay in defence. 2-2 --> 2
3. dte: If I keep butcher for tactician, I'll die to elite. If I use butcher to remove Lawkeeper, tactitian will come into play and build a big soldier before I can kill you. 0-6 --> 2
4. Alphastryk: Force of will should be banned :) 0-6 --> 2
5. Wrath Of pie: If I can land butcher on Leech, I win. So you play sculler first. You have to take pridemage with sculler, Because if you take butcher, I can land pridemage and race until you play leech that I can exile by killing sculler with butcher. So you take Pridemage. I use butcher on sculler and we stare at each other. 2-2 --> 4
6. H: Pridemage can block waif and butcher will race devil. 6-0 --> 10
7. GoblinSmashmaster: OTP, You can land legionnaire early to prevent pridemage from attacking (You can't attack yourself because of the 2 damage you've taken from legionnaire) and it's a staredown. OTD, I'm one turn too late. 1-4 --> 11
8. Silkster: Lush growth does nothing to me. Butcher takes Mycon. You have at most 1 thallid (Didn't do the exact math). I can race Granger after. 6-0 --> 17
9. Me.
10. Maxx!: Hooligan takes vial. sparksmith kills pridemage. 0-6 --> 17
11. FTW: FOrce of will has to be banned :) 0-6 --> 17
Total 17.
FTW's innovation had Force of Will into the top 3, but everything was so close and easily disrupted by the rightful appearance of Deathspore Thallid. It looks like it'll be another week with Force of Will roaming free. I am glad that Utopia Mycon is getting banned. I hate having to plan for cards that I bring into the meta. Interestingly, Force of Will is the only uncommon I've played that isn't banned (though it's not like people were unaware of it before). I have no idea if they feel similarly, but I just checked the "ones that got away" for the other leaders: for dte, it's only Channel; and FTW this week swapped out Cenn's Tactician for Force of Will.
This week felt hard. I knew about a bunch of cards that I would lose to single-handedly, but I couldn't find any way around it. The flatness of the results* seems to echo my sentiment. I looked over some of my other decks on my list and they were getting 24, 24, 24, 27, 18 points. I finally found a deck that would have been good in this meta, but I don't even think that's going to help for next week, though it was a fun puzzle.
*I did a quick check of the standard deviations of each of the 8 rounds: 1.5, 1.4, 1.2, 1.6, 1.2, 1.1, 1.2, 0.6.
My apologies to the Europeans who use decimals and commas backwards from how I do it. I originally copied and pasted the round results into my own spreadsheet to thinker with, but my spreadsheet wasn't properly interpreting the commas as decimal points, so I gave up trying to reformat it and just did it on the official document. So I sort of your formatting pain.
Last edited by silkster; 11-20-2020 at 03:37 PM.
H: Mountain, Reckless Waif, Forge Devil, Death Spark
1. Asthereal (TO): Saprazzan Skerry, Force of Will, Infiltrator il-Kor, Infiltrator il-Kor
Yeah, I can't do anything to force a win through Force. 2-2
2. Reeplcheep: Mishra's Factory, Swamp, Deathspore Thallid, Innocent blood
Pretty sure I can't beat Factory. We disagree here because you have me playing Devil first, which I can't really do, I have to play Waif first and then I lose that to Blood. 0-6
3. dte: Plains, Cenn's Tactician, Gideon's Lawkeeper, deftblade elite
Finally some X/1 creatures I can beat. I think I win both here. 6-0
4. alphastryk: Saprazzan Skerry, Force of Will, Infiltrator il-Kor, Infiltrator il-Kor
Same as round 1. 2-2
5. Wrath of Pie: Swamp, Wildfield Borderpost, Tidehollow Sculler, Putrid Leech
X/2 creatures make me sad. 0-6
6. H: Bye, myself.
7. GoblinSmashmaster: Hickory Woodlot, Channel, Eldrazi Devastator, Porcelain Legionnaire
I wasn't even pretending I could beat this. 0-6
8. silkster: Forest, Lush Growth, Granger Guildmage, Utopia Mycon
Lush Growth doesn't do much here, it could enable your own Guildmage but I'd kill it long before it matters. 6-0
9. Tylert: Island, Aether vial, Qasali pridemage, Faceless butcher
I can't beat this. 0-6
10. maxx!: Keldon Megaliths, Gruul Turf, Sparksmith, Tin Street Hooligan
I think the only saving grace here for me is that getting the Sparksmith and Megaliths online is slow, so I can flip Waif and then pick off the 1/1's in time. 6-0
11. FTW: Saprazzan Skerry, Force of Will, Phantasmal Terrain, Infiltrator il-Kor
Yeah, I think we do draw here, since even in the worst case I can just hold all my cards until the Kor resolves. 2-2
24 maybe?
"The Ancients teach us that if we can but last, we shall prevail."
—Kaysa, Elder Druid of the Juniper Order
Of course, look how much stronger it is than Delver of Secrets. Wizards doesn't have any color bias at all. All basic lands are created equal.
... some are just more equal than others.
#banIsland
Interestingly, this matchup is so bad for you that the Channel combo even flips back Reckless Waif into a 1/1.
Scores for round 8:
1. dte: 36 - 3,6
1. maxx!: 36 - 3,6
3. silkster: 34 - 3,4
4. Reeplcheep: 31 - 3,1
4. FTW: 31 - 3,1
6. GoblinSmashmaster: 29 - 2,9
7. Asthereal (TO): 27 - 2,7
7. alphastryk: 27 - 2,7
9. H: 24 - 2,4
11. Wrath of Pie: 17 - 1,7
11. Tylert: 17 - 1,7
Which leads to these bannings:
Cenn's Tactician
Deftblade Elite
Gideon's Lawkeeper
Granger Guildmage
Gruul Turf
Keldon Megaliths
Lush Growth
Sparksmith
Tin Street Hooligan
Utopia Mycon
And the season standings look as follows:
1. silkster: 33,6
2. dte: 33
3. FTW: 30,3
4. maxx!: 25,1
5. GoblinSmashmaster: 20,5
6. Wrath of Pie: 19,8
6. Asthereal (TO): 19,8
8. alphastryk: 18,6
9. Reeplcheep: 17,8
10. H: 16,7
11. Tylert: 16,5
12. Karshtakavaar: 2,6
So silk and dte still fighting hard for the top spot, FTW following close behind.
maxx! now finds himself in a bit of no man's land, far behind the top 3 but also well ahead of the rest.
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ROUND 9 OF SEASON 8: PEASANT CONTINUED BANNATHON has started.
I have PM'ed myself my deck for round 9, so you can start sending me your decks.
DEADLINE: Wednesday the 25th of November at 11:00AM Central European Time.
(That's my time zone. Pacific Time it'll probably be something like Tuesday night a bit past midnight, so keep that in mind.)
PLEASE NOTE:
The way you send your deck to me matters. Please send it in the way described below, so it doesn't cost me an hour of editing before I can post all the decks.
Please send your deck as follows: Swamp, Swamp, Terror, Black Knight.
So with card tags around each card, and not above eachother, and with your Username and 4CB S08R09 in the topic.
Don't forget to keep an eye on the banned list. You'll find it in the second post of the thread, or in our Google Spreadsheet.
After the deadline has passed, I will post all decks on the forum here, and you can start puzzling out your scores.
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I only tried copying and pasting the entries, and then I found another way to do it, so I stopped trying.
Here I thought this round we just played came with a "DO NOT RELY ON A 1-DROP TO ENABLE YOUR DECK" sign, so I lost to most who ignored that.
The problem is less that people are metagaming against you and more that the metagame just happens to hate on what you're doing. At least, that's how I've felt. I won't deny that I do check my decks against what I think you'll play, though you can see that I ignored it this week. I was prepared to lose to basic+Chronomaton regardless of what other two cards you played!
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