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    Man. . . what would be the requirements of that build to have at least 1 artifact by turn 2, maybe 3 artifacts by turn 3-4 and still have enough spells to flip delver consistently
    Obviously there's only going to be probability, and it's complicated if you want to account for mulligans, but the target artifact count is relatively low for a good chance of 1 artifact by turn 2. (14 for ~80%, 18 for ~90%, 20 for ~95%). Hitting 3 is much harder.

    You can also look at having the artifacts do double duty as mana sources, or pile in with trinkets, but I'm not sure either of those is ideal for delver style tempo game plans.


    On a somewhat different topic: Giving opponents a choice is bad, but is red gearhulk playable in 'big red' decks?

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    Where, other than Shops, does this guy see any play? I do not know what makes him worthy of such treatment.
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    Looks like expeditions are going to start becoming a consistent thing in future sets.

    I am unsure if I saw something more beautiful in the last 8 years of MTG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dice_Box View Post
    Where, other than Shops, does this guy see any play? I do not know what makes him worthy of such treatment.
    He sees slight play in Modern and Vintage, and saw considerable play in standard. Now, if he's actually a reprint in Kaladesh, then that would be an amazing thing to see. But from the number crunching, i don't think it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lemnear View Post
    I am unsure if I saw something more beautiful in the last 8 years of MTG.
    That looks like it's gonna be a stunning piece of work if the foiling is similar to the BfZ Expeditions.

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    I am unsure if I saw something more beautiful in the last 8 years of MTG.
    Looks like it could be the entrance to Barry Zito's toilet to remind of the money he sponged off the Giants.

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    I guess we'll find out how high the prices on things like this are in a sustainability sense, since we will see them every set.
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    I am unsure if I saw something more beautiful in the last 8 years of MTG.
    "One caveat before I show you the cards: the Masterpiece Series: Kaldesh Inventions have a cool printing process that's impossible to reflect on a computer screen, so while what I'm going to show you is going to look cool, it's going to look even cooler in person. Just remember that the copper coloring is all metallic on the actual cards."

    It'll look even better in person.

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    It'll look even better in person.
    And even worse in coverage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dice_Box View Post
    Where, other than Shops, does this guy see any play? I do not know what makes him worthy of such treatment.
    Where, in any format, does Kor Haven see play?



    Besides EDH...

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    Where, other than Shops, does this guy see any play? I do not know what makes him worthy of such treatment.
    They are including a random rare from the set too, it looks like there are consistently going to be duds like the bfz duals were for the original expeditions.

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    Lets wait for Vial, Jitte, Petal, LED and Skull etc. nice Artworks for M. Crypt and H. Walker

    @"White Delver" not good enough yet, but White Artifact Land and this guy and you have a 3/2 Turn 1 ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by supremePINEAPPLE View Post
    They are including a random rare from the set too, it looks like there are consistently going to be duds like the bfz duals were for the original expeditions.
    Assuming you are referring to the gearhulk...



    it's inclusion is far from random.
    The entire cycle of gearhulks will get the Expedition treatment.

    I am glad they at least stopped trying to refer to the 'transparent text box' as 'full art'.

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    This set is unbelievably good. The entire set is full of juice. My expectation is that this set will transform every format for the next years. It wil keep 'giving' competitive cards as the years go by.

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    Brown borders on artifacts? Someone deserves a promotion!
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    http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles...ies-2016-09-12

    Starting with Kaladesh and for the foreseeable future, we're going to be adding a new feature called the Masterpiece Series. Each individual block will have its own name for the Series (the Masterpiece Series for Kaladesh block, for example, will be called Kaladesh Inventions), but it will be referred to overall as the Masterpiece Series. Basically, we're taking what we did with the Zendikar Expeditions and applying it to every set. Here's what this means:

    The Masterpiece Series will exist at a rarity higher than mythic rare. For example, in Kaladesh, you will open a Kaladesh Inventions card roughly 1 out of every 144 boosters. (Technically, the Kaladesh booster pack says the ratio is 1:2,160 cards.) This is slightly more often than opening a premium mythic rare. These ratios may change for future sets.
    The Masterpiece Series will be reprints of existing cards with one exception. There will often be cards from that set included in the Masterpiece Series (like how the Battle for Zendikar rare dual lands were included in Zendikar Expeditions), but they will typically exist in the set in a traditional frame in their normal rarity in addition to appearing in the Masterpiece Series. Kaladesh Inventions has a cycle of five mythic rare cards that appear in the Kaladesh set. There will never be cards appearing in a Masterpiece Series that can't be found outside of it. (I'm talking, of course, about the card itself and not the particular creative/frame treatment.)
    The Masterpiece Series, both in presentation and card selection, will be tied thematically to the world appearing in the block. For instance, all of the Kaladesh Inventions will be artifact cards presented as Kaladeshi artifacts. The frame will likewise have a special treatment that ties into the theme of the block. I will be showing off some of the Kaladesh Inventions cards later in this article, so you'll get a chance to see what I'm talking about for our first Masterpiece Series. The frame treatment will be exclusive to the Masterpiece Series it appears in.
    The number of Masterpiece Series cards may fluctuate, but roughly speaking we expect each Masterpiece Series to be around 50 cards for the whole block. Kaladesh Inventions, for example, will have 30 cards in Kaladesh and 24 cards in Aether Revolt. The large set and small set in a block will have different Masterpiece cards.
    All Masterpiece Series cards are printed in English, but they do appear in non-English product.
    The expansion symbol for each Masterpiece Series will be block-specific, but distinct from the sets in that block. For example, the Masterpiece Series cards in Kaladesh and Aether Revolt will share one unique expansion symbol—they won't use the Kaladesh or Aether Revolt symbols.
    All Masterpiece cards will exist only in premium foil versions.
    Masterpiece cards are planned for Magic Online, but will not be redeemable and are not counted as part of the set. They're going to be distributed in an exciting new way, but we're not quite ready to announce what that is. Look for that announcement later this month.
    Masterpiece cards will not exist in Magic Duels.
    Masterpiece cards can be played in any Limited format they're opened in and in any Constructed format in which the card is already legal.

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    ... They're going to be distributed in an exciting new way, but we're not quite ready to announce what that is.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MD.Ghost View Post
    Lets wait for Vial, Jitte, Petal, LED and Skull etc. nice Artworks for M. Crypt and H. Walker

    @"White Delver" not good enough yet, but White Artifact Land and this guy and you have a 3/2 Turn 1 ;)
    Unfortunately Jitte will not be in this time :
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    Umezawa's Jitte is a wonderful artifact, but it existing on Kaladesh doesn't make any flavor sense so it was off the table for Kaladesh Inventions
    Although the other 4 are possible. Would love to see Skullclamp.

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    Masterpiece cards can be played in any Limited format they're opened in.
    Umezawa's Jitte is a wonderful artifact, but it existing on Kaladesh doesn't make any flavor sense so it was off the table for Kaladesh Inventions.
    I look forward to finding a Jitte in my sealed pool at the Return to Kamigawa prerelease.

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    Brown borders on artifacts? Someone deserves a promotion!

    They're not brown. They're mythic orange.
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