View Full Version : Uba Mask is back...
Roman Candle
07-09-2008, 01:09 AM
I'm not sure if this is where this should be posted, but they restored Uba Mask's printed functionality. So (and correct me if I'm wrong) this means that those Welder/Mask combos work again.
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=mtgcom/feature/465a&page=2
(ctrl+f for Uba Mask)
I think Wizards just made a bunch of Vintage players happy (and to be fair, they really needed to get on the Vintage community's good side again).
Elficidium
07-09-2008, 02:24 AM
Anyone mind explaining the combo to me?
Sanguine Voyeur
07-09-2008, 07:07 AM
With Uba Mask out, after the opponent's draw step, you weld Mask away for something else, even another Mask. There is then nothing in play saying that they can play the removed cards if there is no Uba Mask in play. If there's another Uba Mask out, it's 'different' and dosen't allow the opponent to to play cards removed with the first Mask.
Mago is on crack. Seriously, I think he makes these changes while he is high.
Superior Numbers
New Oracle wording:
Superior Numbers deals damage to target creature equal to the number of creatures you control in excess of the number of creatures target opponent controls.
If the opponent becomes an illegal target before the spell resolves (but the creature doesn't), the spell will still be able to access information about that opponent. It will resolve as normal and deal the appropriate amount of damage to the creature.
If the creature becomes an illegal target before the spell resolves (but the opponent doesn't), the spell will be unable to affect that creature. Although the spell will still resolve, it won't deal any damage.So, this spell will resolve as normal even if one of the targets becomes illegal while it is on the stack? Oh, but not if the other does? wtf...Is this the case for any other spell? And how is that remotely clear by the oracle wording to, say, a level 1 judge?
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Quarum Trench Gnomes
As printed, it'd make a Plains tap for colorless mana instead of white mana. Its functionality changed at some point so it'd make a Plains tap for colorless mana instead of any mana. This is different if you're tapping a Tundra, for example. So back it goes.
New Oracle wording:
{T}: If target Plains is tapped for mana, it produces colorless mana instead of white mana. (This effect doesn't end at end of turn.)I suppose that this is technically accurate now, but it is not clear to a casual player whether or not a Tundra can make blue.
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Necropotence
It's yet another card printed in both Ice Age and Fifth Edition—and this time, the cards match! But Oracle doesn't. Both printed versions have abilities that trigger whenever you discard a card; those abilities remove that card from the game. The Oracle wording changes that to a replacement ability. You still discard the card, but it never hits the graveyard. This can go back to being a triggered ability. The new ability being implemented here specifies that the ability looks for the discarded card in the graveyard. If it can't find it there (due to Library of Leng, for example), then it won't remove it from the game.
New Oracle wording:
Skip your draw step.
Whenever you discard a card, remove that card in your graveyard from the game.
Pay 1 life: Remove the top card of your library from the game face down. Put that card into your hand at the end of your turn.This one is not quite as bad. But I can still see plenty of arguments because the phrase "in your graveyard" is not as clear as something like "the card had to actually go to the graveyard for it to get removed". Naturally I am not expecting long phrases like that on the card, but his solution still sucks.
Anyone mind explaining the combo to me?
Sanguine Voyeur did a pretty good job of explaining it, but just to clarify... Under the old (and now current) wording, you could use Goblin Welder to exchange an Uba Mask in play for another Uba Mask in the graveyard during the opponent's draw step after they have drawn their card. Since their card was "removed with" the first Uba Mask, that card would be permanently RFG since that Uba Mask is no longer in play, even though another one is. Therefore the opponent would never get to play another spell or land unless it was an Instant. The other wording, which used Mask Counters, does not allow this. It simply said "remove a card from the game with a Mask Counter on it. You may play that card as though it were in your hand until the end of turn". This allowed the opponent to play their card if there was any Uba Mask in play, whether or not it was the one that was in play when the card was removed. It's a seemingly small change, but it's important. Viva la Uba Mask!
Nihil Credo
07-09-2008, 05:09 PM
That photo of Vroman burning his Uba Masks after the errata just became 100 times more hilarious.
That photo of Vroman burning his Uba Masks after the errata just became 100 times more hilarious.
Agree.
However, you'll be comforted to know that he has literally hundreds of them.
Uba Mask <3 (http://bp3.blogger.com/_DRGyf4gglY0/SAhZLsj3oII/AAAAAAAAAa4/DAlideVgK8s/s1600/uba.jpg)
Frenger
07-10-2008, 04:26 PM
Anyone have the pic of vroman burning his masks? I can't find it.
thefreakaccident
07-10-2008, 05:04 PM
OMG!!!
Sam!
You're in France already?! It is a shame I didn't get to see you off...
I used to actually have the pic, I think... I believe it is at my home computer, so if this thread lasts another 2 weeks you'll all get treat.
http://inlinethumb57.webshots.com/11960/2504992390086718795S600x600Q85.jpg (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2504992390086718795GmTlXY)
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