ICBM Legacy Open #1 Results--with pictures!

[Tha Gunslinga]

Today's players:

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Greg Sieverson playing Goblins

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Tom Donnelly playing mono-blue Painter

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Mark Domzil didn't play, but if he did he would have run Goblins

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John Heiden playing Sui Black w/Tarmogoyf

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John Knapp playing Scepter-Chant/Landstill

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Nate Moersfeld playing Enchantress

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Hans Knapp playing Ichorid

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Chris Nighbor playing Survival

[Tha Gunslinga]

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Jeremy Seroogy playing Enchantress

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Jeremy Odell playing Burn

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Manuel Fernandez playing Threshold

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Joseph Wurm playing Stasis

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Jake Kempfer playing Affinity

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Brian J playing Cephalid Breakfast

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Tommy Kolowith playing 43 land

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Andrew Wurm playing Pox

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Grant Champion playing Counter-Top Goyf

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James King playing Survival

[Tha Gunslinga]

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Alex Franson playing Solidarity

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Alex Bernstein playing Solidarity

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Dave Carhart playing LandStill

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Owen Turtenwald playing 43 land

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Sam Etzkin playing Deadguy Ale

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Brandon Semerau playing TerraGeddon

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Duby Duby playing Sui Black w/Goyf


1 Goblins
1 Mono-blue Painter
2 Survival
2 Enchantress
1 Scepter-Chant/Landstill
1 Landstill
2 Sui Black w/Tarmogoyf
1 Ichorid
1 Burn
1 Threshold/Counterbalance
1 Affinity
2 43 land
2 Solidarity
1 Deadguy Ale
1 TerraGeddon
1 Counter-Top Goyf
1 Cephalid Breakfast
1 Stasis
1 Pox


Top 8 info to follow shortly.

[Zach Tartell]

This is completely badass. I want everyone who runs a tournament from now on to do this.

[J.V.]

I'll guess by principle that Tommy Kolowith wins it...:rolleyes:
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Turtenwald in top 8 as well.
They don't not top 8.

[Illissius]

Interesting. So it seems the good players think Lands is the deck to play in Legacy. (I wonder if they're using Worm Harvest.)

I wish my last name were Wurm.

[Tha Gunslinga]

Top 8 positions after swiss:
1. John Knapp (Scepter-Chant/Landstill)
2. Greg Sieverson (Goblins)
3. Owen Turtenwald (43 land)
4. Dave Carhart (LandStill)
5. James King (Survival)
6. Alex Franson (Solidarity)
7. Jeremy Seroogy (Enchantress)
8. Duby Duby (Sui Black w/Tarmogoyf)

John Knapp beats Duby Duby
Jeremy Seroogy beats Greg Sieverson
Owen Turtenwald beats Alex Franson
Dave Carhart beats James King

top 4:
Dave Carhart beats John Knapp
Owen Turtenwald beats Jeremy Seroogy

Finals:
Owen Turtenwald crushes Dave Carhart in a brutal and quick 2-0 match.


Final standings:

1. Owen Turtenwald (43 land)
4 Mishra's Factory
3 Taiga
3 Tropical Island
1 Savannah
1 Treetop Village
4 Wasteland
4 Tranquil Thicket
2 Wooded Foothills
2 Windswept Heath
4 Rishadan Port
2 Barbarian Ring
1 Nantuko Monastery
4 Maze of Ith
2 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
1 Nomad Stadium
3 Gamble
3 Intuition
4 Exploration
4 Manabond
4 Life from the Loam
4 Mox Diamond

SB:
4 Leyline of the Void
4 Chalice of the Void
3 Krosan Grip
1 Ancient Grudge
1 Ray of Revelation
1 Firebolt
1 Glacial Chasm


2. Dave Carhart (LandStill)
4 Standstill
4 Flooded Strand
4 Mishra's Factory
3 Nantuko Monastery
3 Tropical Island
3 Tundra
3 Underground Sea
3 Wasteland
4 Brainstorm
4 Counterspell
2 Crucible of Worlds
2 Diabolic Edict
2 Disenchant
3 Fact or Fiction
4 Force of Will
4 Pernicious Deed
3 Stifle
4 Swords to Plowshares
1 Plains

SB:
4 Meddling Mage
3 Tarmogoyf
1 Haunting Echoes
3 Thoughtseize
1 Wasteland
3 Tormod's Crypt

3. John Knapp (Scepter-Chant/Landstill)
4 Force of Will
4 Counterspell
4 Brainstorm
4 Standstill
4 Fire/Ice
4 Swords to Plowshares
3 Isochron Scepter
3 Orim's Chant
2 Crucible of Worlds
2 Fact or Fiction
2 Engineered Explosives
4 Flooded Strand
4 Mishra's Factory
3 Wasteland
3 Tundra
3 Volcanic Island
2 Faerie Conclave
2 Polluted Delta
1 Island
1 Plains
1 Academy Ruins

SB:
4 Meddling Mage
4 Red Elemental Blast
3 Pyroclasm
2 Tormod's Crypt
1 Shattering Spree
1 Gaea's Blessing

4. Jeremy Seroogy (Enchantress)
4 Windswept Heath
7 Forest
3 Plains
3 Savannah
1 Bayou
1 Scrubland
1 Taiga
2 Serra's Sanctum
4 Enchantress's Presence
2 Moat
2 Replenish
1 Wheel of Sun and Moon
4 Elephant Grass
4 Exploration
4 Argothian Enchantress
3 Sterling Grove
2 Solitary Confinement
4 Utopia Sprawl
2 City of Solitude
2 Oblivion Ring
1 Sacred Ground
1 Sacred Mesa
1 Words of War
1 Aura of Silence

SB:
1 Harsh Judgment
4 Leyline of the Void
3 Choke
2 Krosan Grip
1 Ghostly Prison
1 Rule of Law
3 Thoughtseize


5. Greg Sieverson (Goblins)
1 Earwig Squad
3 Gempalm Incinerator
4 Goblin Lackey
4 Goblin Matron
4 Goblin Piledriver
4 Goblin Ringleader
4 Goblin Warchief
4 Mogg Fanatic
3 Siege-Gang Commander
1 Wort, Boggart Auntie
3 Warren Weirding
4 Aether Vial
3 Badlands
4 Bloodstained Mire
2 Mountain
3 Rishadan Port
2 Taiga
4 Wasteland
3 Wooded Foothills

SB:
3 Krosan Grip
2 Pyrostatic Pillar
3 Pithing Needle
3 Tormod's Crypt
1 Earwig Squad
3 Pyroblast


6. James King (Survival)
4 Survival of the Fittest (2 foil)
3 Swords to Plowshares
3 Burning Wish
4 Thoughtseize
3 Cabal Therapy
1 Genesis
1 Anger
1 Masticore
4 Birds of Paradise
1 Squee, Goblin Nabob
2 Magus of the Moon
1 Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
1 Harmonic Sliver
1 Faerie Macabre
4 Tarmogoyf
2 Shriekmaw
2 Eternal Witness
2 Quirion Ranger
2 Bloodstained Mire
3 Windswept Heath
3 Wooded Foothills
3 Bayou
1 Taiga
1 Savannah
1 Swamp
1 Plains
1 Mountain
4 Forest

SB:
4 Leyline of the Void
3 Krosan Grip
3 Engineered Plague
1 Reverent Silence
1 Gleeful Sabotage
1 Chainer's Edict
1 Rough/Tumble
1 Primal Command

7.
Alex Franson (Solidarity)
12 Island
4 Flooded Strand
2 Polluted Delta
4 Force of Will
3 Turnabout
2 Brain Freeze
3 Cunning Wish
2 Flash of Insight
2 Opt
2 Peek
1 Twincast
4 Remand
4 Brainstorm
4 Reset
4 High Tide
4 Impulse
3 Meditate

SB:
2 Brain Freeze
1 Turnabout
2 Twincast
1 Meditate
1 Rebuild
1 Chain of Vapor
1 Echoing Truth
1 Vision Skeins
1 Stoke of Genius
4 Hydroblast


8. Duby Duby (B/G Suicide)

4 Tarmogoyf
4 Nantuko Shade
4 Hypnotic Specter
4 Tombstalker
4 Dark Ritual
4 Thoughtseize
4 Hymn to Tourach
4 Sinkhole
4 Snuff Out
3 Seal of Primordium
4 Wasteland
4 Polluted Delta
4 Bloodstained Mire
3 Bayou
6 Swamp

SB:
4 Choke
4 Leyline of the Void
4 Engineered Plague
3 Umezawa's Jitte


I will have top 8 pictures up tomorrow.

[Illissius]

3. Owen Turtenwald (43 land)
6. Alex Franson (Solidarity)

Owen Turtenwald beats Alex Franson


Nice.

[ChiiMagic]

Hey, John Knapp here. This tournament was loads of fun, despite the medium tournament. I really ike the way that it was casually run, but the integrity of the game was more than upheld. It was a great job for your first tourney. Lol, I also noticed that every person that I played in the swiss ended up in top 8 with me being their only loss. I played Jeremy seroogy round 1 and won 2-0. I played Alex with solidarity round 2 and won 2-0. Then I played James King round 3 and win 2-1. Draw with Owen in the 4th. Draw with Goblins in the 5th. I'm definitely looking forward to the next tourney.

[arsenalpow]

Owen Turtenwald (43 land) beats Alex Franson (Solidarity)


Nice.

wtf, how did that happen???

[Tha Gunslinga]

Top 8 pics.

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James King (Survival) tries to resolve something, anything vs Dave Carhart with Landstill.

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All of Greg Sieverson's Goblins can't cross Jeremy Seroogy's proxied Moat.

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You would think Dave Carhart would respect a FOIL SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST, but alas, that was not so.

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Jeremy Seroogy plots his opening play.

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Nantuko Shade just can't get there vs a deck with infinite removal and chump blockers.

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I told James King that if he couldn't fit the text on the proxy he could just write it on a piece of paper.

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Jeremy Seroogy busts out his entire deck to lock out Goblins.

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That's right. Two of them.

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Mil-town becomes Pimpville for one magical night.

[Tha Gunslinga]

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Welcome to the hell that is the LandStill mirror. Clearly an untimed Top 8 was a mistake. Eventually Dave is able to end the match with a ridiculous Haunting Echoes, ripping everything out of John's deck and ending the match. That's Dave with the blue playmat.

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Owen grinds down Jeremy Seroogy in an epic battle of the permanent-based control decks.

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It's not looking good for Jeremy here, considering that he's outnumbered on permanents 16 to 3.

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Owen opens up a can of whoop-ass in the finals, smashing Dave in under 20 minutes. Apparently countermagic isn't really good against a deck that wins with lands.

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All Owen really had to do was get the Ports going and he could lock Dave's mana out and crush him.

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Dave thought Meddling Mage on Life from the Loam would save him. Owen expected Leylines instead of Mages and thus didn't bring in his SB Firebolt, which he could have Intuitioned for. Instead he casually obliterated Dave's manabase, then busted out the Barbarian Ring and torched the poor Mage.

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Owen takes command of the game.

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Dave fought back with a Thoughtseize, but Owen had both Gamble and Intuition. Dave took Gamble, which proved to be wrong as Owen EOT'd the Intuition for Wastelands to nuke Dave's fragile mana.

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Soon Dave's board evaporated once again.

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Aaaaaand Owen Motherfuckin' Turtenwald takes it in a harsh and brutal two games. Congratulations to ICBM's own Owen Turtenwald for winning ICBM Legacy Open #1.

[Skeggi]

Grant Champion playing Counter-Top Goyf


Is this an actual name?

[SpatulaOfTheAges]

Trying to navigate through 10,000 pictures to get information is annoying, by the way. A link would probably work better next time.

What was turnout?

[Tha Gunslinga]

Is this an actual name?

That's his actual name.

Turnout was 24. It will be better next time I think; apparently I need to browbeat people more.

[ChiiMagic]

wtf, how did that happen???

lol. There was a concession. Alex knew he couldn't beat my deck at all, and knew he would have trouble with the other landstill player, so he conceded to give Owen better chances, even though it's a great matchup.

[arsenalpow]

lol. There was a concession. Alex knew he couldn't beat my deck at all, and knew he would have trouble with the other landstill player, so he conceded to give Owen better chances, even though it's a great matchup.

Solidarity has a slight chance to beat Landstill (like snowball chance in hell slight) but that chance is definitely greater than the odds a 43Land deck will take down Solidarity :)

[Deep6er]

The hell are you smoking? Those Landstill decks are great matchups for Solidarity. Trust me, Landstill was my favorite matchup with Solidarity. Those lists are similar to the ones that I've beaten countless times before.

[Lego]

The hell are you smoking? Those Landstill decks are great matchups for Solidarity. Trust me, Landstill was my favorite matchup with Solidarity. Those lists are similar to the ones that I've beaten countless times before.

I'm going to "Ditto" this one, and I'm a pretty terrible Solidarity player. Landstill was never a very difficult matchup for me, especially the ones packing lots of board control. These days, you've got ~8 counters to worry about, maybe Stifle, and that's it.

[Nightmare]

I've been on both sides of the table. What's Landstill's big threat? Counters? Well, you have infinite time to play land, go, and then they can barely deal with you in low-tide form, let alone going off in response to like FoF or something. Or even better, without Reset when they EoT Cycle for Men.

[Deep6er]

Looking back, that top 8 is a dream come true for Solidarity. Only one matchup that you really want to avoid? What the fuck dude? You could have easily taken home the gold. Wow, what a beating. Who told him Landstill was a bad matchup? That guy should be shot.

[e_hawk77]

Yeah solidarity has a great match up vs landstill they dont have that fast of a clock and are fair less disruptive then most other decks. Plus game one they have a ton of dead cards vs you (ie all the removal).

[ChiiMagic]

I have 8 miandeck counters and 3 Orim's Chants that solidarity has to get through to get anything done. Post board, I have 12 counters, 4 Cspell, 4 FOW, 4 REB; 3 Orim's Chant; 4 Meddling Mages; 1 Gaea's Blessing. It was easy to win with a single meddling mage on reset and a mishra's factory. The other andstil deck also had 4 mages out f the board.

[Deep6er]

Yeah, that's not a big deal. Honestly. I've gone off through worse. There's no way you can claim that Solidarity is a good matchup for Landstill. No way.

[Jak]

I have 8 miandeck counters and 3 Orim's Chants that solidarity has to get through to get anything done. Post board, I have 12 counters, 4 Cspell, 4 FOW, 4 REB; 3 Orim's Chant; 4 Meddling Mages; 1 Gaea's Blessing. It was easy to win with a single meddling mage on reset and a mishra's factory. The other andstil deck also had 4 mages out f the board.

Chant does nothing against Solidarity. You have no clock and they can sculpt the perfect hand. They can get a bunch of lands in play and end the game with 2 Brainfreeze. Mage can be bounced via Wipe Away. Landstill should lose to Solidarity.

[ChiiMagic]

The matchup is more than fine for my build of landstill. Chants in the main followed up by all of the hate out of the board is and more importantly was enough to pull that match out for me flawlessly. I had 2 pieces of disruption in game 1 in the form on chant and FOW with 3 manlands getting in there. Game two wasn't even close with a Mage on reset getting in for 2 every turn joined up by a factory with REB and Counterspell protection when he tried to chain of vapor the Mage.

[Nihil Credo]

I have to agree with ChiiMagic, people. I know very well that Solidarity crushes Landstill, but his list has a full seven more 1cc Counterspells than normal postboard. I personally wouldn't look forward to trying to beat this:

4 Force of Will
4 Counterspell
4 Red Elemental Blast
3 Orim's Chant

4 Brainstorm
4 Standstill
4 Fire/Ice
1 Gaea's Blessing
2 Fact or Fiction
2 Isochron Scepter

4 Meddling Mage

4 Mishra's Factory
2 Faerie Conclave
1 Academy Ruins
17 other lands

[Deep6er]

I really don't think so. I've honestly gone off through worse. He doesn't even play Arcane Laboratory. Maybe if he played Lab, but he still loses to the correctly played End of Turn Turnabout with Flash in the yard. I've done it hundreds of times. I know full well what he's capable of doing, and you're also forgetting that he still has an ass-ton of dead cards. I would take this matchup, and be happy about it.

[ChiiMagic]

Yeah, I would also be happy about the matchup. I hope the metagame swings back into high as one of the dominant decks because of the success of the 43 land decks and the loam decks. It would make tourneys much easier for me.

[Lego]

I smell a grudge match. Let's get to it guys!

[Eldariel]

I've yet to see Landstill without Tarmogoyf to beat Solidarity piloted competently. I mean, Landstill with 30 counters would have trouble doing it as they still simply get Brain Freezed half and half for lethal, or Remand-Freezed for lethal after the counter flurry. And since basically every card Solidarity has once the hand is ready is a threat, Landstill better have 6-7 counters/chants/company and the exact same number of Stifles as Solidarity has Brain Freezes in hand (for 5-6 threats + 1-2 Flash of Insights) if it wants to actually stop High Tide from going off. Chant is pretty much the equivalent of a counter here as Solidarity keeps going off in response.

Of course, it's entirely up to the Solidarity pilot. I've beaten a fellow who'd played Solidarity for a while with friggin' MUC 'cause he was trying to go off way before he had to, allowing me to stop him and then resolve a Morphling once the coast was clear FTW.

[JACO]

I have never lost to a tournament match to Solidarity when I played 4C Landstill. After sideboarding I would have 4 Meddling Mage (SB), 4 Force of Will (main), 4 Counterspell (main), 3-4 Stifle (main), and sometimes 3-4 Duress (SB). This was before they even printed stuff like Trickbind or Tarmogoyf.

Look at it this way. Solidarity really only has a few cards you care about:
2-4 Brainfreeze
4 Force of Will
3-4 Remand

Everything else on both sides is nearly irrelevant. You can keep your Stifles for their Brainfreezes, and your 8 counters for their 4 Force of Wills and 3-4 Remands. When you start siding in things like Meddling Mage and Duress or REB, a competent Landstill player should beat the competent Solidarity player a very healthy portion of the time.

On topic, congrats to Owen for winning, and to Ben for organizing another great tournament. I would have been in attendance if not for my jaunt through Europe. See you at the next one.

[TheInfamousBearAssassin]

I think there's like a single-digit number of people alive who can play Solidarity competently. But I'd hop on a table and do a Leprechaun dance of joy if I was playing Solidarity in that Top 8.

[T is for TOOL]

If you want to argue about Solidarity matchups, do so in the Solidarity deck thread.
-TOOL