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technogeek5000
08-21-2008, 10:29 PM
The post has been updated with the Top 8 Pairings, Final Standings, Updated and more Balance prize support, and Top 8 Decklists
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I would like to thank everyone who signed up for this tournament and giving us a amazing turnout of 77 people. Before I pair up the Top 8 I would like to collect all the decklists from each and everyone who made it past the swiss via pm. Also, each of the top 8 matches will be best of 5. Obviously their is no time limit to the top 8 matches but everyone is on their honor here to try and complete their matches ASAP. Below is a list (in no particular order) of everyone who made Top 8.


TOP 8 PAIRINGS (ordered brackets)


Klaus vs. Eldariel
Elfrago vs. Sanguine Voyeur

Nihil Credo vs. Whit3 Ghost
Phantom_It vs. Van Phanel


Semi-final Pairings


Klaus vs. Elfrago
Nihil Credo vs. Van Phanel


FINALS

Nihil Credo vs. Klaus

I am going to start the top 8 Tommorow @ 10:00 PM GMT -5 so make sure to check back as I will edit this post with the Top 8 pairings. I hope that noone minds for the delay its just it makes it easier to collect the lists and do the top 8 seperately.

Edit: Also here are the prizes that will be awarded. I was thinking of restructuring the prize support to make it less lopsided. Ill finalize it before the top 8 starts.


Updated Prizes:
1st Place: 1 Garruk Wildspeaker, 1 Jap Goblin Lackey, 20 Assorted Collectors edition cards, 1 foil Mental Note, 1 foil Seal of Primordium, 1 foil Echoing Truth, 2 Japanese Orims Chant
2nd Place: 1 Bitterblossom, 1 Liliana vess, 1 Gaddock Teeg, 1 foil Cabal Ritual


Final Swiss Standings
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g87/Dj_Drex/FinalStandings.jpg


Top 8 Decklists
Whit3 Ghost
// Lands
4 Volcanic Island
4 [A] Tropical Island
2 [ON] Wooded Foothills
2 [ON] Flooded Strand
2 [ON] Polluted Delta
4 [TE] Wasteland

// Creatures
4 [FUT] Tarmogoyf
4 [OD] Nimble Mongoose

// Spells
4 [A] Lightning Bolt
4 [AP] Fire/Ice
4 [SC] Stifle
4 [AL] Force of Will
4 [NE] Daze
4 [DIS] Spell Snare
4 [5E] Brainstorm
4 [LRW] Ponder
1 [TSP] Wipe Away
1 [PS] Rushing River

// Sideboard
SB: 2 [10E] Pyroclasm
SB: 2 [DIS] Trygon Predator
SB: 3 [SOK] Pithing Needle
SB: 2 [b] Red Elemental Blast
SB: 2 [IA] Pyroblast
SB: 4 [TSB] Tormod's Crypt


[U]Elfrago
// Lands
7 Swamp (3)
3 [u] Bayou
4 [ON] Bloodstained Mire
4 [ON] Polluted Delta
3 [TE] Wasteland

// Creatures
4 [TO] Nantuko Shade
4 [4E] Hypnotic Specter
4 [FUT] Tombstalker
4 [FUT] Tarmogoyf

// Spells
4 [MM] Snuff Out
4 [5E] Dark Ritual
4 [LRW] Thoughtseize
4 [AT] Hymn to Tourach
4 [b] Sinkhole
3 [PLC] Seal of Primordium

// Sideboard
SB: 4 [UL] Engineered Plague
SB: 4 [TE] Choke
SB: 3 [BOK] Umezawa's Jitte
SB: 4 [GP] Leyline of the Void


[U]klaus
3 Island
2 Plains
4 Flooded Strand
2 Polluted Delta
3 Tundra
1 Underground Sea
1 Scrubland
4 Mishra's Factory
1 Academy Ruins
1 Tolaria West
2 Wasteland

4 Brainstorm
4 Counterspell
1 Crucible of Worlds
2 Cunning Wish
2 Decree of Justice
3 Engineered Explosives
1 Eternal Dragon
1 Fact or Fiction
4 Force of Will
2 Humility
1 Jace Beleren
4 Standstill
4 Swords to Plowshares
3 Wrath of God

SB:
1 Tormod's Crypt
1 Pulse of the Fields
1 Return to Dust
2 Runed Halo
1 Blue Elemental Blast
1 Engineered Plague
1 Enlightened Tutor
3 Extirpate
4 Meddling Mage


Phantom_It
// Lands
4 [A] Tropical Island
4 [b] Volcanic Island
1 Forest
3 [ON] Polluted Delta
3 [ON] Wooded Foothills
2 [UNH] Island

// Creatures
4 [FUT] Tarmogoyf
4 [OD] Nimble Mongoose
1 [JU] Fledgling Dragon

// Spells
4 [AL] Force of Will
4 [NE] Daze
4 [A] Lightning Bolt
3 [AP] Fire/Ice
4 [MM] Brainstorm
4 [LRW] Ponder
2 [OD] Predict
3 [CHK] Sensei's Divining Top
4 [CS] Counterbalance
2 [FD] Vedalken Shackles

// Sideboard
SB: 3 [DK] Blood Moon
SB: 4 [TSB] Tormod's Crypt
SB: 2 [TSP] Krosan Grip
SB: 4 [IA] Pyroclasm
SB: 2 [DIS] Trygon Predator


[U]Nihil Credo
// Lands
1 Forest
2 [UNH] Island
2 [ON] Flooded Strand
3 [ON] Polluted Delta
3 [PR] Tropical Island
4 [PR] Volcanic Island
3 [PR] Wooded Foothills

// Creatures
4 [OD] Nimble Mongoose
4 [FUT] Tarmogoyf
3 [SHM] Swans of Bryn Argoll

// Spells
4 [PR] Lightning Bolt
4 [PR] Force of Will
4 [PR] Brainstorm
3 [NE] Daze
3 [CHK] Sensei's Divining Top
4 [LRW] Ponder
3 [CS] Counterbalance
1 [CS] Lightning Storm
3 [ON] Chain of Plasma
2 [DIS] Spell Snare

// Sideboard
SB: 3 [9E] Pyroclasm
SB: 3 [TSP] Krosan Grip
SB: 3 [8E] Blood Moon
SB: 4 [DK] Tormod's Crypt
SB: 2 [A] Red Elemental Blast


[U]Sanguine Voyeur
// Lands
4 Ancient Tomb
4 City of Traitors
4 Sandstone Needle
8 Mountain

// Creatures
4 Sundering Titan
4 Crater Hellion

// Spells
4 Gruul Signet
4 Worn Powerstone
4 Gilded Lotus
4 Thran Dynamo
4 Burning Wish
2 Wildfire
2 Burning of Xinye
4 Trinisphere
2 Decree of Annihilation
2 Devastation

// Sideboard
SB: 1 Decree of Annihilation
SB: 1 Devastation
SB: 4 Pyroclasm
SB: 1 Shattering Spree
SB: 1 Tooth and Nail
SB: 1 Recoup
SB: 1 Hull Breach
SB: 4 Chalice of the Void
SB: 1 Regrowth


Eldariel
// Lands
4 [EX] City of Traitors
4 [TE] Ancient Tomb
9 Island

// Creatures
1 [SC] Shoreline Ranger
4 [AN] Serendib Efreet
4 [FD] Trinket Mage
4 [P2] Sea Drake
3 [LRW] Sower of Temptation
4 [LRW] Mulldrifter
3 [LRW] Pestermite

// Spells
4 [AL] Force of Will
4 [DS] Sword of Fire and Ice
3 [DS] Sword of Light and Shadow
4 [MR] Chrome Mox
4 [MR] Chalice of the Void
1 [SOK] Pithing Needle

// Sideboard
SB: 1 [SOK] Pithing Needle
SB: 2 [DK] Tormod's Crypt
SB: 3 [US] Back to Basics
SB: 2 [MM] Misdirection
SB: 3 [BOK] Umezawa's Jitte
SB: 1 [FD] Engineered Explosives
SB: 3 [A] Blue Elemental Blast


[U]Van Phanel
12 Island
3 Flooded Strand
3 Polluted Delta

4 High Tide
4 Brainstorm
3 Opt
1 Peek
4 Reset
4 Impulse
3 Remand
2 Brain Freeze
3 Meditate
3 Cunning Wish
3 Turnabout
2 Cryptic Command
4 Force of Will
2 Flash of Insight

Sideboard:
1 Stroke of Genius
1 Brain Freeze
1 Meditate
1 Turnabout
2 Wipe Away
3 Echoing Truth
3 Hydroblast
2 Twincast
1 Gaea's Blessing

Whit3 Ghost
08-21-2008, 11:16 PM
Why not have a prize pool and have top2 draft from it?

PhanTom_lt
08-22-2008, 02:22 AM
Will the lists be posted before the top8? If not, why bother collecting them right now?
When you post the pairings, can we also get the standings after Swiss?

technogeek5000
08-22-2008, 10:09 PM
I have just updated the opening post with the Top 8 Pairings, restructured prize support, Standings, and Top 8 Decklists.

Whit3 Ghost
08-22-2008, 10:30 PM
1. Nihil and I get our vengence match. Awesome.
2. Holy shit Wildfire.
3. Holy shit Solidarity.

Good luck to everyone. This looks like a fun top 8.

Nihil Credo
08-22-2008, 10:32 PM
Heh. So the matchups are:


UWb Landstill vs. Faerie Stompy
Eva Green vs. Wildfire

Swans Thresh vs. Thrash
UGR Thresh vs. SolidaritySolidarity looks like the Christian among the lions. Props to Van Phanel if he makes it to the finals.

Edit: Also, to Sanguine Voyeur, I totally want a report once you're done. I want to know if MD Devastations were enough to get by in the Goyf world.


Also, just for fun since it's Olympic time:


Germany vs. Finland
Italy vs. USA

Italy vs. USA
Lithuania vs. Germany


Edit 2: I contacted White Ghost, we should get our match done by the weekend.

Sanguine Voyeur
08-22-2008, 10:43 PM
Looks like I may win what ever match I get unless my deck prefers seppuku.
Also, to Sanguine Voyeur, I totally want a report once you're done. I want to know if MD Devastations were enough to get by in the Goyf world.I intend to. The fact that a Wildfire deck took top eight in a 77 man tournament is too funny to pass up.

EDIT: Man, I wish this counted for the Legacy Metagame Forum.

Avatar of Light
08-23-2008, 01:38 AM
Good: 3 Thresh Decks in Top 8

Bad: 1 gets taken out in the first round. Wanted to see the matchup in the Two-man tournament, but Meathooks ruined it.

Eldariel
08-23-2008, 01:53 AM
Let's see if I can keep my undefeated-streak on vs. Landstill. I already kinda promised Nihil to face him in the finals, so I suppose I have no options. Seems like I'll possibly get to face that smexy-ass Wildfire on my way though - that would be just awesome! You're my hero, Sanguine.

KillemallCFH
08-23-2008, 02:27 AM
Nice, I got 9th place in the first MWS Source Tournament, too. Its almost like I'm doing it on purpose.

Elfrago
08-23-2008, 02:46 AM
Contacted Sanguine, we shall play ASAP.
Holy shit, I guess we have an interesting top8.

Jak
08-23-2008, 02:53 AM
UWb Landstill vs. Faerie Stompy (Landstill)
Eva Green vs. Wildfire (Wildfire)

Swans Thresh vs. Thrash (Thrash)
UGR Thresh vs. Solidarity (Solidarity)

Landstill vs. Wildfire (Wildfire)
Thrash vs. Solidarity (Thrash)

Wildfire vs. Thrash (Wildfire)

My prediction.

klaus
08-23-2008, 05:06 AM
Let's see if I can keep my undefeated-streak on vs. Landstill.

Alright then.
Your undeafeted-VS.-LS-streak VS. my undefeated-VS-tournament-streak, eh?

Eldariel
08-23-2008, 05:37 AM
So it seems. My undefeated vs. Landstill-streak spans multiple tournaments though (just ask DiF), so I should be at an advantage :P

TheInfamousBearAssassin
08-23-2008, 05:38 AM
Also, just for fun since it's Olympic time:



Europe's smirking revenge?

Nihil Credo
08-23-2008, 10:12 AM
EDIT: Man, I wish this counted for the Legacy Metagame Forum.
I don't see why it shouldn't. The decks weren't any more janky than your average Japanese tournament.

Sanguine Voyeur
08-23-2008, 10:24 AM
I though something had to be sanctioned for the DTBF. I guess not.

Quick! Two other people top eight with Wildfire.

PhanTom_lt
08-23-2008, 03:47 PM
PM'd Van Phanel.

Whit3 Ghost
08-23-2008, 04:51 PM
Nihil takes it in 5.

I guess I'm in the virtual doghouse, I prolly should have gone to 5 one of the games, but I don't think I would have pulled it out.

GGs

Nihil Credo
08-23-2008, 04:52 PM
I beat Whit3_Ghost 3-2. Epic games, although one game involved a battle of boners.

GreenOne
08-25-2008, 07:27 AM
2 Italians in the Top8 can mean a thing only. Italy has to be in the DTB forum.

Sanguine Voyeur
08-25-2008, 09:00 AM
Elfrago won 3-1.

Black isn't as easy as blue.

Elfrago
08-25-2008, 09:01 AM
I won 3-1 aganist Sanguine Voyeur.
Eva Green land distruption and discard proved too much for Wildfire.

deviant
08-25-2008, 09:05 AM
NOOOooooooooo!!!!

Elfrago
08-25-2008, 09:15 AM
NOOOooooooooo!!!!

Yeah, I know. I crushed the dream...

Eldariel
08-25-2008, 12:15 PM
Klaus beat me 3-1. G1 I drew no non-land cards off the top over the entire game, G2 I beat a quick win, G3 I had a nice beatdown position but his singleton Return to Dust on my SoLS coupled with Humility and no equipment for me solved and G4 I mulled to 5. Interesting games and I'm sure I played like crap without noticing, but congratulations.

klaus
08-25-2008, 12:32 PM
Klaus beat me 3-1. G1 I drew no non-land cards off the top over the entire game, G2 I beat a quick win, G3 I had a nice beatdown position but his singleton Return to Dust on my SoLS coupled with Humility and no equipment for me solved and G4 I mulled to 5. Interesting games and I'm sure I played like crap without noticing, but congratulations.

Confirmed:
>>undefeated-VS-tournament<< beats >>undefeated-VS-Landstill<<

You seemed to play really tight and well - as far as I could tell.
GGs.

Elfrago
08-25-2008, 12:38 PM
Confirmed:
>>undefeated-VS-tournament<< beats >>undefeated-VS-Landstill<<

You seemed to play really tight and well - as far as I could tell.
GGs.

So we will have to play again Klaus, let's see if I can have my revenge :tongue:

georgjorge
08-25-2008, 12:50 PM
Question to Nihil Credo (as I haven't seen this deck put up results before): How many of your games did you actually win with the Swans combo, and how many on the power of Goyf/Mongeese/CBalance backed up by Forces ?

Whit3 Ghost
08-25-2008, 12:53 PM
Question to Nihil Credo (as I haven't seen this deck put up results before): How many of your games did you actually win with the Swans combo, and how many on the power of Goyf/Mongeese/CBalance backed up by Forces ?
The combo was awful against me. Every game he won in our matchups involved Top advantage.

Sanguine Voyeur
08-25-2008, 12:55 PM
So what happens now? Am I out completely, or do I still get to play?

Van Phanel
08-25-2008, 12:58 PM
Sorry it took so long, I just came back from GP Kopenhagen (where I managed to start 6-0 in the mainevent and then lose three matches in a row...). I'll PM Phantom and probably we're going to play our game sometime tomorrow night.

Edit: Also I am totally in the wrong bracket. Shit.

Nihil Credo
08-25-2008, 02:19 PM
Question to Nihil Credo (as I haven't seen this deck put up results before): How many of your games did you actually win with the Swans combo, and how many on the power of Goyf/Mongeese/CBalance backed up by Forces ?

So far, I went for the combo twice. I'd estimate that in general going off is the optimal route for Swan-Thresh about once in ten games or so, primarily against control and midrange decks. In this tournament they've mostly been Force-pitch, since I played against aggro six rounds out of seven:

R1: Verdana with Goblins (burned his guys and attacked FTW)
R2: Whit3_Ghost with Thrash (I don't get manascrewed and out-CQ him)
R3: Poichoi with Ichorid (burned her guys and attacked FTW - no, really)
R4: KillemallCFH with Merfolk (burned his guys and attacked FTW)
R5: Elfrago with Eva Green (won G1 by dropping Swans at six mana and Chaining them for a few pitch counters plus a second Chain, then blocking a lethal Tombstalker, untapping and going off again for the kill; lost the other two games.)
R6: IBA with Quinn (in G2 I dropped Swans with Force backup, but before I could untap he revealed his two-card-hand to be Orim's Chant into E. Tutor into Grindstone into activation. Frownz. Won the other two.)

I'll probably write a decent report when this is all over, though.

Van Phanel
08-25-2008, 06:26 PM
I did it. I beat Phantom It with 3-2.

Game 5 was a monster of an epic game. I'll write a report about this tournament so you can read about it later as I don't want to spoil my sideboard plans as they might be pretty close to what I'll board against Nihil Credo.

Two of three Threshold players are already out. You'll be the next (or so I hope).

Nihil Credo
08-25-2008, 07:22 PM
It's certainly been a hell of a while since I faced Solidarity, and I look forward to our match.

Also, ugh, it's been nine years since I last used it and ICQ still sucks male Equus Asinus genital organs.


So what happens now? Am I out completely, or do I still get to play?

I guess you could ask the other Top 8ers if they want to play out for who gets to be 5th place, 6th place, etc.

technogeek5000
08-25-2008, 07:25 PM
The semi finalists can play out there matches now. Good luck to everyone.

Semi-final Pairings

Klaus vs. Elfrago
Nihil Credo vs. Van Phanel

klaus
08-26-2008, 08:44 AM
Alright, I beat Elfrago 3-0.

Jace wins G1 on his own. I wanted to cut that guy for good. Now I gotta think it over. I mean Evagreen is as (non-tribal-)aggro as it gets. Wow.

Tough luck for him: G3 he mulls to 4 due to 3 consecutive no-landers and scoops it up when he is left with 3 no non-land cards in hand and meager 2 lands in play after I took care of 2 Goyfs and one Seal.

Final here I come!

Elfrago
08-26-2008, 08:55 AM
Yep, lost 0-3.
Lost the first games due to a combination of bad luck/bad plays/bad matchup and really never played g3.
Oh, I guess I have a couple streaks now: the <I-always-lose-to-landstill-streak>> and the <<I-always-lose-the-game-right-before-winning-some-prizes-streak>>:tongue:

Eldariel
08-26-2008, 09:39 AM
Due to losing to klaus, my streaks are down to always Top 8ing online (for this year) and always beating DiF :(

Now that I think of it, I may have been well adviced to bring in Umezawa's Jittes vs. klaus. I didn't think of it at the time, but having one piece of equipment is absolutely pivotal to beating Humility, and that card indeed cost me games. This does warrant further consideration.

deviant
08-26-2008, 09:47 AM
I did it. I beat Phantom It with 3-2.

Yess!!
I'm probably the only one excited, but whatever, go Soli!

Van Phanel
08-26-2008, 09:55 AM
Yess!!
I'm probably the only one excited, but whatever, go Soli!

I don't think you are the only one. Yet I'll first have to get past Nihil Credo which is going to be some hell of hard work. We'll be playing our game in around 6 hours.

Maveric78f
08-26-2008, 10:08 AM
Yess!!
I'm probably the only one excited, but whatever, go Soli!

Yeah, I'm not sure Klaus would share your enthousiasm.

Julian23
08-26-2008, 01:25 PM
Yess!!
I'm probably the only one excited, but whatever, go Soli!

Consider me another member of the Excited for Soli Club ;-) Horrible(?) matchup though... :eek:

klaus
08-26-2008, 04:53 PM
Yeah, I'm not sure Klaus would share your enthousiasm.

Actually I'm part of the enthusiasm club myself. Germany ftw:laugh:
also both MUs are slightly in my favor so who cares..

Van Phanel
08-26-2008, 07:17 PM
Wow. You. Have. No. Idea.

Against your list I'd rate my chances at 85% preboard (you can only win when I'm landscrewed) and at around 60-65% postboard. Ask Marius Hausmann, he can tell. If you won't belive this, I'd absolutely like to play a testsession sometime next week between Tuesday and Friday if you have time.

For the serious part, I'm sorry to crush some people's dreams but Nihil Credo wins 3-0. I should have won at least one game but he got Top + CB on turn 3at the latest every game and had three or four counters each game when I had gotten rid of his CB. Shit happens.

Nihil Credo
08-26-2008, 07:24 PM
For the serious part, I'm sorry to crush some people's dreams but Nihil Credo wins 3-0. I should have won at least one game but he got Top + CB on turn 3at the latest every game and had three or four counters each game when I had gotten rid of his CB. Shit happens.

Confirmed. And it's a good thing that I goldfished a bunch of absolutely terrible draws beforehand, too, because during the actual match I used up every single one of them (including a Daze on a Brain Freeze copy).

TheInfamousBearAssassin
08-26-2008, 10:07 PM
Yeah, Landstill's probably the #1 most desired matchup for Solidarity. I think the only more desirable matchup is probably 43land.dec. Rifter/Wombat, I guess. Okay, and maybe Enchantress.

Solidarity has a fair number of autowins, actually. Especially over a five game set with no time limit.

klaus
08-27-2008, 02:53 AM
Wow. You. Have. No. Idea.

Against your list I'd rate my chances at 85% preboard (you can only win when I'm landscrewed) and at around 60-65% postboard. Ask Marius Hausmann, he can tell. If you won't belive this, I'd absolutely like to play a testsession sometime next week between Tuesday and Friday if you have time.

I'm aware that it looks crappy for me G1. But the fact that it would have been a best of 5 session does make a difference there. Also I have some experience against Solidarity with my list and post board there are hardly any dead cards left in my lib and I won more than 50% of those games.

-1 Cunning Wish (yeah, 1 remains FOW-food)
-2 Humility
-3 Wrath
-4 STP
---------------------------
+ 1 E. Tutor (Halo)
+ 2 Halo
+ 3 Extirpate
+ 4 Magi


PM me, so we can test some.

technogeek5000
08-27-2008, 10:08 AM
So its time for the finals. Nihil Credo vs. Klaus.

Also, if 3/4th want to play out there matches for the standings then they can (if they dont want to thats also fine).

Elfrago
08-27-2008, 02:34 PM
Also, if 3/4th want to play out there matches for the standings then they can (if they dont want to thats also fine).

I'll accept whatever Van Phanel decides...

Van Phanel
08-28-2008, 03:58 AM
I won't be at home until Monday evening, if you are still interested then we can play. That will be my third game against red Threshold in a row (at least you don't have Counterbalance).

Elfrago
08-28-2008, 04:40 AM
I won't be at home until Monday evening, if you are still interested then we can play. That will be my third game against red Threshold in a row (at least you don't have Counterbalance).

And I won't have Red ThreshThreshThreshThreshThreshThreshThreshThresh too... I'm playing Eva Green:laugh:
Ok, we will play it.

Edit: WTF, I wrote it only one once :laugh:

Nihil Credo
08-29-2008, 01:15 PM
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb161/PokerStick/WingedVictoryofSamothrace.jpg

klaus
08-29-2008, 01:31 PM
GGs.
:)
Here's my report (it gets better towards top8).

http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10897

jegger
08-31-2008, 07:09 AM
Italians do it better.

Clap clap to Nihil.

Jeremy
08-31-2008, 06:18 PM
Congrats Nihil!

Nihil Credo
09-01-2008, 08:50 AM
Thanks, guys ;)

Also, here's my report (http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?p=268524#post268524), for those interested.

Van Phanel
09-01-2008, 01:01 PM
And I won't have Red ThreshThreshThreshThreshThreshThreshThreshThresh too... I'm playing Eva Green:laugh:
Ok, we will play it.

Edit: WTF, I wrote it only one once :laugh:

Oops. Right. The other two Threshold lost in the Quarters. I don't know if that will be much better though. I'll PM you.