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TheInfamousBearAssassin

08-24-2008, 04:25 AM

With the five year anniversary of this place coming up, I want to say something that doesn't get said enough. The Source is completely fucking awesome as a forum, and a triumph for libertarian and free market thinkers everywhere. In the four years since 1.5 and Legacy were separated, other forums have tried to offer a "friendlier" alternative to the supposed bitterness and rancor of the Source. Almost without exception, these forums are now barren wastelands devoid of intelligent life. I'd like to think that the reason for this is simple; every other such forum has attempted what can only be described as intellectual central planning. Rather than allow ideas to stand or fall on their own, moderators have attempted to control which ideas would be recognized as valid or not, which should be deleted and which should be protected, with any criticisms being regarded as flaming. Staff have seen no barrier of separation between their powers of enforcement and their own personal preferences. The result has been, unsurprisingly, forums that are neither open nor even actually friendly, sandboxes for cliques of the admins and their friends to post and trumpet pet decks. Interest quickly dies, and the few lackeys left in the circle jerk eventually get bored and wander off.

The Source, though imperfect, has been a bastion of intellectual freedom. Moderators have not chosen which ideas to condemn or elevate; a free market of ideas and debate and intense criticism has naturally selected and eliminated bad ideas, and promoted good ones. This site has thrived where others have wilted and died miserable entropic deaths because it allows people to speak and hear information freely (more or less, anyway; certainly far, far more than any other Magic strategy site I know of). Free of the fear of unreasonable retribution for wildly divergent opinions, the truth naturally perculates to the surface.

Also, not banning Jack Elgin was key. That guy's like a fucking font of sage wisdom.

Speaking of which, I'm totally banned from MTGSalvation. Well, technically it was just a suspension, but I told them to fuck themselves and delete the account. Seriously. Bunch of wankers.

Eldariel

08-24-2008, 04:31 AM

Whatever happened with Salvation? I didn't even see anything inflammatory from you there. Now that I think of it, aren't you banned from SCG too?

Aggro_zombies

08-24-2008, 04:35 AM

When I saw the thread title, AC/DC started playing in my head.

I have to agree with your post there. I never did like MTG Salvation for Legacy (mostly because the people in charge there, as well as the people who post, are fucking idiots), and knowing the criticism half-baked ideas get on the Source has certainly made me much more careful and thorough in pursuing my deck building ideas. It's nice to know that noobiness is kept at least partially in check by the fact that noob posts tend to be viciously ripped apart when they're made. I may even go so far as to say that the amount of testing and designing work I've done to meet the kind of standards I expect from this site have made me a better player and designer.

At the very least, this site was the only reason I started properly capitalizing my posts. Yes, I'm a lazy fuck.

Cheers to the Source.

TheInfamousBearAssassin

08-24-2008, 04:38 AM

I've been banned from SCG three times, and yes, I have a fourth account. But there's nothing worth posting about. Forums' are dead. Mostly I did it to piss off Bleiweiss. Man do I have zero respect for that guy. (The thread where I got banned the third time is pretty fucking incredibly entertaining to read, I think. Check it out here (http://forums.starcitygames.com/viewtopic.php?t=301214&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0). And P_R even comes off as badass).

Salvation was this post (http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showpost.php?p=3092406&postcount=276). It probably doesn't seem like a huge deal, but frankly I'd gotten tired of the bullshit from mods on that site. Nothing about the post was actually a flame, but Blinking Spirit, who I'd actually, depressingly enough, defended from allegations of pedantic wankery before, was apparently "annoyed" by it and decided this justified mod action, since the post was confrontational and offered personal criticisms. I then reported four posts of his that did the exact same thing within the past week, and then one of the Admins, Avatar of Kokusho, decided to have the epic-fucking-gall to basically admit that the original infraction was bullshit, but still claim that I deserved to be suspended post hoc for abusing the report system by reporting posts that were against forum policy according to the definition set out by a Moderator in the original post.

So, yeah. That was my getting tired of the epic-fucking-level sandbox that is MTGSal. Perfect fucking case study in why there's no such thing as active and objective modding. Rules get enforced based on personal relationship, and it generally makes an ass of the law.

DeathwingZERO

08-24-2008, 05:50 AM

I've known a number of friends that have left Salvation due to moderation being a complete fucking joke. While there have been a number of people over the years claiming that the mod/admin/adept staff here has been a "good ol' boys club", it's seemed to branch out a bit from that and been more widespread over time.

And yes, general stupidity doesn't get very far here. While some discussions tend to get heated, and a number of people will come off as complete pricks at times, there's been very little as far as bannings as far as I know from general flame wars, aside from those that generally deserved not to post here frequently.

Sanguine Voyeur

08-24-2008, 08:12 AM

I've been to many forums under many names, and this is the best. Not the best magic forum, not the best game forum, the best over all. Competent moderation combined with the three warning system make for a well behaved environment without being overly strict. Drama, while unavoidable, is always kept around for an amusing amount of time, then removed before it becomes a problem.

The sharp air of criticism refines decks much faster here while destroying senseless thoughts such as, "The Cure will win Worlds." The site is focused with but the lone Mish-Mash as non-Magic topics.

And also;
I'm too clever to correct my sentencesDid someone actually say that, or is it just worse out of context?

Cabal-kun

08-24-2008, 08:16 AM

And also;Did someone actually say that, or is it just worse out of context?

Someone said it. ( N_S ) at Salvation. You can also say with reasonable truth that he's the one who got IBA his suspension.

kicks_422

08-24-2008, 08:50 AM

Well, I see the Source as one big social mess... The kind of mess you see on your carpet but you never really got around to cleaning it up because it looks so good.

I come here for the discussions more than anything. Mish Mash would be the second reason. Decklists would then come in at third.

Whit3 Ghost

08-24-2008, 10:39 AM

The attitude at the Source is one of the things that made me get my shit together and is basically responsible for any Magic-based achievements of mine.

So...

Thanks guys!

Maagler

08-24-2008, 10:59 AM

The attitude at the Source is one of the things that made me get my shit together and is basically responsible for any Magic-based achievements of mine.

So...

Thanks guys!

Same. I read the source for about a year before I joined and it drastically increased my learning curve.

I also am semi addicted to this site.

URABAHN

08-24-2008, 12:04 PM

I wish The Source were more heavily moderated, like Elitist Jerks (http://elitistjerks.com/f34/). Some would say, "Hey, those guys are being jerks!", but I say they bring those forums to a much higher level of maturity.

kirdape3

08-24-2008, 02:08 PM

Be careful with the terminology you use. A libertarian approach would have no moderation at all, a Chicago School one only to keep the software working correctly. This is certainly a regulated area, which we enforce through our posting rules.

To be fair, this forum is about at the level of TheManaDrain.com before the team secrecy really got big so nobody posted their best and brightest stuff before they've bashed with it. The level of rancor however reminds me very much of Beyond Dominia, complete to much of the people displaying it not actually having a clue about the format that they're being ornery about.

In short, this is another moderate-level Eternal forum. Clearly it's better than Wizards.com or StarCityGames.com's forums, but any team's forums are probably light-years better than this.

freakish777

08-24-2008, 02:33 PM

That guy's like a fucking font of sage wisdom.

You mean fount of wisdom, right?

/sardonic asshat

That said though, I demand Pinder design a Jack Elgin font to replace all font on this website.

TheInfamousBearAssassin

08-24-2008, 02:43 PM

You mean fount of wisdom, right?

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/font

Do not question the Jack Elgin.

That said though, I demand Pinder design a Jack Elgin font to replace all font on this website.

It is well.

@Kirdape: A public forum in which a wide and deep range of topics are discussed is inherently different from a private forum for design and development within a team. I don't think the two really bear much comparison. People get decklists, generally, from the Source.

Also, you only say that because you're not allowed in the Team Unicorn forum. It's a fucking font of relevant deck design, let me tell you.

kirdape3

08-24-2008, 03:02 PM

I was referring to the quality of work that gets done there. And trust me, we have a ton of topics discussed, both Magical and otherwise.

Nihil Credo

08-24-2008, 03:25 PM

Don't worry, if you get tired of keeping the site working just open a politics thread and this forum will go completely down the drain.

TheInfamousBearAssassin

08-24-2008, 03:26 PM

Okay, gotcha. Mysterious decks of mystery that would totally win tournaments if you didn't want to keep them a secret. Gotcha. We're all very impressed. Moving right along...

Edit: Also, the moderation policy on the Source, as contrasted with, say, MTGSal, is pretty close to libertarian (keep in mind that when used as a political term, libertarian encompasses a broad range of people, most of whom are rational enough to acknowledge the usefulness of public education and roads, for instance). Instead of trying to crack down to make sure the conversation keeps civil, mods simply delete completely spammy or derailing posts (in serious threads), and act only when flames pretty much can't possibly be ignored any longer. You pretty much have to try your hardest to get banned, ala Machinus, Cavius, etc... There's no need to self-censor, because unless you're actively trying to be a complete fuckwit nothing's worse is going to happen to you than a deleted post.

08-24-2008, 04:07 PM

This is a true work of art.

I want more threads like this come October.

marit

08-24-2008, 04:48 PM

deviant

08-24-2008, 04:57 PM

(The thread where I got banned the third time is pretty fucking incredibly entertaining to read, I think. Check it out here (http://forums.starcitygames.com/viewtopic.php?t=301214&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0). And P_R even comes off as badass).

I actually read it through. (Well, not all of it, I just read what Sourcers (godzilla, P_R, you, Spat, whoelse?) had to say, and then I also read Ben's and Steven's parts, and ignored the "randoms")

1: I fucking hate Bleiweiss. I had nothing on him before I read through that, but fuck! What a 'tard!
2: You're cool. Or at least you know how to be when the situation calls for it. Sometimes you're a dick but I think we are all fine with that. Seriously though, reading through you trying to have a levelheaded discussion with intellectually challenged cretins was quite amusing.

I especially liked the parts where I totally expected you to lose your temper (I probably would have), but you didn't:

"Go away. You are being actively harmful to the rest of the Legacy community at this point.
- Ben"

"You know, for someone preaching politesse, you really go out of your way to be unnecessarily rude and insulting."
- IBA

And the best part of all this was when Ben banned you and tried to make you look like the Villain and called you "the worst flamer/troll this site has ever seen". Now I'm sure you've come out like a dick at some point, and probably deserved those (previous) bans or something (I don't care, irrelevant) at this conversation, you had been endlessly patient, made clear arguments and used surprisingly tactful and very refined language. To put it short: you had been a perfect gentleman. Then Ben bans you and starts defaming you! A-ha-ha!

Seriously though - keep up the good work. You just got respect.

Jaynel

08-24-2008, 05:05 PM

That SCG thread gave me a lot more respect for members of the source. Also, who were the people that ratted you outfor being maskedman?

For real. This forum is truly awesome. Insane props for everyone that helps run and contributes to it.

Whit3 Ghost

08-24-2008, 05:59 PM

Honestly, besides the GD forum and Pimp/Proxy threads, Matt and Jack's arguments was the only thing I enjoyed about SCG.

Sanguine Voyeur

08-24-2008, 06:04 PM

When I was getting into Legacy, I had to chose between this or the Mana Drain.

I chose right.

raharu

08-24-2008, 06:42 PM

For real. This forum is truly awesome. Insane props for everyone that helps run and contributes to it.
This. also,

IBA: You're a well respected and productive member of this comunity and just a generally good guy, and I apreciate your contribuations to this format, but I must ask, with a twinge of exasperation:

WHEN THE HELL ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE A DECK THAT PLAYS FORCE OF WILL?

srsly.

Lego

08-24-2008, 07:09 PM

WHEN THE HELL ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE A DECK THAT PLAYS FORCE OF WILL?

Didn't you see IBA Flash? It played Force AND Pernicious Deed. Plus, there were Slivers in the sideboard.

raharu

08-24-2008, 07:22 PM

Didn't you see IBA Flash? It played Force AND Pernicious Deed. Plus, there were Slivers in the sideboard.
LOLWHAT? JackFlash? That was an abomination towards Legacy.

Also, I'd like to see something that, you know, "has synergy with the format". Fuck, even when Flash was legal it had poor synergy with the format.

Bardo

08-24-2008, 07:34 PM

It's a great site and the only one I check more than once a day. Cheers to everyone who makes it worth visiting. Thanks.

Pinder

08-24-2008, 09:50 PM

That said though, I demand Pinder design a Jack Elgin font to replace all font on this website.

What makes you think I can design fonts? Also, what would a Jack Elgin font look like? Bears? Stone? Breath? Stone Breath?

I'm fucking on it. And drunk.

This site is awesome.

I'm drunk.

Oh! And on the drive from my house to Idaho, there's this sign for an exit that takes you to these cities in Oregon called 'La Grande' and 'Elgin'. So the sign basically says "La Grande Elgin", and every time I see I think that must be what the French call Jack.

Seriously, this forum missed you.

I'm also drunk.

TheInfamousBearAssassin

08-24-2008, 10:28 PM

raharu

08-24-2008, 11:46 PM

Yeah, that's pretty true.

The problem with Force of Will is that everytime I try to incorporate it into a deck, I end up tinkering with the list and tinkering with the list until I realize I'm running Truffle Shuffle with blue. And I don't really like the blue.

Although, I like Cryptic Command a lot, so there's hope.

In deliriously stupid things, I PM'd the admins at MTGSal, again, telling them to fucking delete my account, again, and in response they extended my suspension for "saying not-nice things".

Wow.
You should go to his house and jump over a table. Then, threaten to turn him to stone if he doesn't delete the account. 'Swat I'd do, were I a Magic playing Ursine assassin of malicious notoriety.

Also, there's nothing wrong with Truffle Shuffle with blue. It was my birthday Tuesday and no-one got me anything*, so if you would plx break the format with control I'd make a cake in your remembrance**.

*because I'm doing something in September after school has been in for a while and people will be boxed into getting me shit.

**I don't eat cake. Ever. I'd eat that one though, and it would have bear whiskers for candles, it would be so epic***

***I want to do this now. Where does one find a bear**** in the Texas tri-state area?

****I don't want to break into a zoo. Also, note that tamed zoo bears, while still bears, i.e. still bad ass, are pussies compared to wild bears, so taking their whiskers wouldn't be noteworthy.

The Rack

08-25-2008, 12:03 AM

Okay the source is cool and all and congrats on almost 5 years but just because a lot of people come here doesn't mean it's a stellar forum it's just the only one that actually has Legacy and actually has knowledgeable players. Some of those "knowledgeable players" aka "Legacy Adepts" are just friends of the staff and I don't like that. If you're an adept you should wag more than you bark. In my local tourney myself, thefreakaccident, Tog, and maybe two others go to the source while the rest of the players regard it as an elitist forum. It's bogus why there are plenty of good decks out there but if they don't have a "Legacy Adept" name slapped on it then it's garbage. Competition brings out the best in people but it also brings out the worst. I'm guilty of just shutting a new player's idea down and I try very hard not to do that anymore. I think we all are guilty of that. It's too bad that we honestly need moderators because I strongly believe that this forum would thrive much better in an altruistic form than in a self interested form. That's my only problem with the source, besides that, hoorah.

TheInfamousBearAssassin

08-25-2008, 12:05 AM

Personally, I usually hike to the Himalayas and find the Ancient Mount-Of-The-Tomb-Wreathed-In-Mist, therein to battle the Immortal God-Bear-King Ursalus for an ordeal of nine days and nine nights. Ten times must you cut the God-King's head from his body, and ten times watch him rise again. Only then will he yield and allow you to pluck a single whisker from his mighty beard of flames.

Alternately, most holistic medicine shops.

I'll think about it. I've found Gifts Ungiven to be really fucking good in a Truffle-Shuffle-ish frame, and I like the idea of a Time Warp/Capture of XiahouportalthreekingdomscardwithaChinesenamebutit'saTimeWarpwithadifferentname/Recurring Nightmare/Echoing Truth + Witnesses combo, but it's probably not that practical. And it's difficult to keep the blue count high.

@The Rack: Personally, I do think the Adept system is one of the worst parts of the site. I'd like to see it changed to be decided by a poll of members every however many months, and then have the Adepts actually vote on relevant things like DTB status and whatnot. But that's just me. The nature of the Elite as being naturally self-inclusive, with a lot of East Coasters and only a few West Coasters, Europeans, etc., has been discussed, although there's no good solution at the moment.

Jak

08-25-2008, 12:29 AM

This forums is awesome. Thank you Mods for keeping it clean and running it so smoothly. I love this place.

Also, Oregon is the tits. We have cities named Elgin AND Gearhart!

Deep6er

08-25-2008, 12:38 AM

Wow, there are a lot more cities named Elgin than ones named Gearhart. Probably because Jack Elgin's mom is a whore. Jack too.

Matt's only a whore most of the time. Jack all the time.

Aggro_zombies

08-25-2008, 12:44 AM

Also, Oregon is the tits. We have cities named Elgin AND Gearhart!
Wait, Gearhart too? Just when I thought that guy's ego couldn't get any bigger, he has his own damn city...

TheInfamousBearAssassin

08-25-2008, 12:49 AM

Gearhart/ Is my best friend/ We'll always be together/ Through thick and thin...

Deep6er

08-25-2008, 12:53 AM

God, I fucking hate you.

Listen, if you could like... die, that would be fantastic. Maybe for a cookie? I'll totally give you a cookie if you die. It's a really delicious cookie. Seriously. Also, it will... uh... totally bring you back to life?

But, if you eat it while you're still alive it will totally taste like a really nasty cookie, so you have to die to eat it. OK? So get right on that. I'll totally give you some resurrection cookie, it will be awesome.

thefreakaccident

08-25-2008, 01:02 AM

The only reason I put up with the constant stream of senseless dribble that spews out of this site day in and day out, is the fact that it is the only alive forum for legacy...

Honestly, When people believe that the only way a deck can become good is when it has to endure months of flaming/idiocracy, there is something wrong.

People just fear different.

EDIT:

God, I fucking hate you.
Listen, if you could like... die, that would be fantastic. Maybe for a cookie? I'll totally give you a cookie if you die. It's a really delicious cookie. Seriously. Also, it will... uh... totally bring you back to life?

But, if you eat it while you're still alive it will totally taste like a really nasty cookie, so you have to die to eat it. OK? So get right on that. I'll totally give you some resurrection cookie, it will be awesome.
__________________

Wow, way to make my point for me.

Deep6er

08-25-2008, 01:22 AM

What? What point? What the hell? I was just talking about how much I hate Jack Elgin. I like the Source. Hate Jack Elgin. Very simple.

Your dislike for the forum is not at all what I intended to talk about.

Although, I do like the fact that you think you're better than everybody. EVERYONE thinks they're better than everybody else. Hell, I can guarantee the fact that I think I'm better than you. It has to do with today's culture I think. But, I won't bother going into that. After all, my point has been made. Jack Elgin sucks, and I hate him.

raharu

08-25-2008, 01:32 AM

Personally, I usually hike to the Himalayas and find the Ancient Mount-Of-The-Tomb-Wreathed-In-Mist, therein to battle the Immortal God-Bear-King Ursalus for an ordeal of nine days and nine nights. Ten times must you cut the God-King's head from his body, and ten times watch him rise again. Only then will he yield and allow you to pluck a single whisker from his mighty beard of flames.

Alternately, most holistic medicine shops.

Ursalus is a pussy, and I don't like flying to India (my cape doesn't fit right and it's impossible to get them tailored correctly). Sorry Jack : \

I'll just go tackle a few of the local wolves (again) and take all their whiskers and entwine them, although wolves < bears. Not <<<<<, but < nonetheless. That, or take a plane and throw an asswhoopin' on some grizzlies. Well, most of the Grizzlies.

I'll think about it. I've found Gifts Ungiven to be really fucking good in a Truffle-Shuffle-ish frame, and I like the idea of a Time Warp/Capture of Jingzhou portalthreekingdomscardwithaChinesenamebutit'saTimeWarpwithadifferentname/Recurring Nightmare/Echoing Truth + Witnesses combo, but it's probably not that practical. And it's difficult to keep the blue count high.

Do it.

but no Time Warp shenanigans. Nosir.

After all, my point has been made. Jack Elgin sucks, and I hate him.

: \

TheInfamousBearAssassin

08-25-2008, 01:50 AM

It's okay, Gearhart's just being ironic. Because of the us being best friends thing.

Also,

The only reason I put up with the constant stream of senseless dribble that spews out of this site day in and day out, is the fact that it is the only alive forum for legacy...

Honestly, When people believe that the only way a deck can become good is when it has to endure months of flaming/idiocracy, there is something wrong.

The only reason I put up with gravity is because it keeps us from being flung deep into the howling silent void of space, but I wish it would stop making shit so heavy to carry. And the only reason I put up with electromagnetism is because it prevents all matter from collapsing inwards on itself into a dense and indistinguishable primordial soup, but I wish I'd stop getting static shock.

What makes you think you can have one without the other?

People just fear different.

Okay, aside from making you sound like an angry emo kid, how does this even relate? People don't make fun of bad ideas because they fear different, they make fun of bad ideas because they're bad ideas, and the people that post bad ideas usually get huffy and indignant in an entertaining way when they're critiqued, resulting in amusing posts that make them look like angry emo kids. Not that I'm saying anything.

raharu

08-25-2008, 02:18 AM

The only reason I put up with gravity is because it keeps us from being flung deep into the howling silent void of space, but I wish it would stop making shit so heavy to carry. And the only reason I put up with electromagnetism is because it prevents all matter from collapsing inwards on itself into a dense and indistinguishable primordial soup, but I wish I'd stop getting static shock.

What makes you think you can have one without the other?

I'm stealing this. I figured I'd inform you so that when the internet and whatnot is rife with it you'll know where it started (because anything that my friends say becomes meme, and they all take their ideas, Magic and otherwise, from me and then don't credit it :rolleyes:).

People just fear different.

loldifferent.

thefreakaccident

08-25-2008, 02:22 AM

What I was trying to say is that things that are out of the ordinary are usually faced with hostility/fear (like WTF IS THAT! kinda deal)... I was not trying to say people here are specifically closed-minded, just that the human race as a whole usually are (hell, we have people who have been killing eachother for like ever over just random irrelevant shit).

I didn't mean to offend, just state an obvious truth that people tend to ignore.

TheInfamousBearAssassin

08-25-2008, 02:31 AM

WWI was caused by the assassination of Arch-Duke Ferdinand. Is that an obvious fact that people ignore? Or do we not talk about it on the Source because it's not fucking relevant?

Here's an idea; if an idea is entirely new and different from what's worked so far, a burden of proof to show that it's a good idea is reasonable.

thefreakaccident

08-25-2008, 02:38 AM

TheInfamousBearAssassin

08-25-2008, 02:45 AM

Sigh. Look, I think you're missing the beauty of an open market of ideas. All ideas are open to attack. That means you can also criticise the criticism. Don't let bad criticisms derail a thread; if you think an argument is stupid and weak, attack it with a counter-argument. Generally, popular support will fall on the side of the person with the stronger argument, and via just mockery, the stupid idea will wither and die.

Or contact a mod if it's just complete spam.

raharu

08-25-2008, 02:46 AM

Most of the time that someone sugests/ passionately screams the name of Tarmogoyf, it's because they were running a vanilla creature of a weaker P/T ratio in that slot, or it's replacing a card that isn't pulling it's weight.

EDIT: DAMNIT JACK, QUIT BEING GENERAL AND ELOQUENT. and fast, stop that as well.

KillemallCFH

08-25-2008, 03:25 AM

The Source is awesome. That is all.

(I'll elaborate when I'm not so tired.)

Jak

08-25-2008, 04:53 AM

I agree to an extent, but people usually overlook words as what they are, words.

There is absolutely no way to prove anything I actually say (likewise for anyone here), and when people do not agree with the words you do not use...

EX:

Person A: Card 4 (the card that is out of the ordinary) has been amazing for me, and it has won me all of these MUs that I usually would not have.

Person B: TARMOGOYF RETARD!!!!

This is when the thread dies.

Then the thread should die. If Person A can't back up his card choice with testing results or tournament results then that is his own fault for getting "flamed" that way.

People will play what they want to play and be interested in whatever they want to be interested in. Flames are everywhere on the internet. Some people feel the need to act arrogant or, most likely, your deck really needs the harsh criticism. If you really hate this site or Legacy because of that then that sucks.

I have benefited a lot from this site and I enjoy coming on here 2-3 times per day (more with no school :wink: ) because this community rocks. It hurts when I read people hating Legacy or the Source (the Source really is Legacy) because I am part of this close community. I hope more people can come and check out the Source because they would be blown away. No other forum (that I've been to) is as nice or well run as this one.

Congrats mtgthesource.com for 5 awesome years!

Nightmare

08-25-2008, 09:49 AM

As the person who logs more hours on this site than anyone else alive (we don't actually track that to my knowledge, although I would be extremely surprised to see anyone even close to me), I can say this much:

This is a pretty good site. I like it.

deviant

08-25-2008, 10:00 AM

It's okay, Gearhart's just being ironic. Because of the us being best friends thing.

I'm going to ask a really stupid question now, but bear with me since I seriously don't know any of you guys so I can't really know.

Are you really best friends and Gearhart is just joking like you say here, or does he really hate you and you are just making fun of him?

I seriously don't know. I've been thinking of this before, and I can't make sense of you people.

Citrus-God

08-25-2008, 10:50 AM

Are you really best friends and Gearhart is just joking like you say here, or does he really hate you and you are just making fun of him?

Friendships holds when friends pokes fun at the other person; this is usually the sign of comfort, that they're allowed to lightly and whimsically offend that "friend." For example, this is why people do gay shit to their friends all the time, such as having sex with their skank girlfriend underneath a deck full of poison ivy, or shitting on their bed.

I seriously don't know. I've been thinking of this before, and I can't make sense of you people.

I don't question them. I just find the members on this site amusing and hysterical. It's how I waste away my hours of boredom.