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Mulletus
09-02-2008, 08:04 AM
I want to make sure i can trickbind the mana on a wall of roots, and the -0/-1 counter stays.

Skeggi
09-02-2008, 08:18 AM
As far as I know you cannot counter mana abilities.



406.4. A mana ability can be activated or triggered. Mana abilities are played and resolved like other abilities, but they don’t go on the stack, so they can’t be countered or responded to. See rule 411, “Playing Mana Abilities,” and rule 408.2, “Actions That Don’t Use the Stack.”

Sanguine Voyeur
09-02-2008, 08:31 AM
Indeed you cannot counter mana abilites.

To answer the question though, in the hypothetical case that it was countered, the counter would still be placed on the Wall. Anything before the ":" is a cost, any thing after is the effect. Only the effect would be negated.

Mulletus
09-02-2008, 09:23 AM
stiffle says you cant counter mana activated abilities, trickbind does not.

Skeggi
09-02-2008, 09:37 AM
It's reminder text. They could have printed it on Trickbind but they didn't. Hence: you cannot counter mana abilities. Doesn't matter what card you play.

Edit: actually there is similar reminder text at the bottom of Trickbind. RTFC I guess :wink:

Edit2: How to answer your own question. (http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5268)

Zach Tartell
09-02-2008, 09:37 AM
It does, right in the italicized text at the end, in the parenthesis. (Mana abilities can't be countered.)

Edit: No, it's definitely on the card.

Locutus
09-02-2008, 09:38 AM
Trickbind

Instant, 1U (2)
Split second (As long as this spell is on the stack, players can't play spells or activated abilities that aren't mana abilities.)
Counter target activated or triggered ability. If a permanent's ability is countered this way, activated abilities of that permanent can't be played this turn. (Mana abilities can't be targeted.)
uhm..yeah.
Even if it would not be right there on the card, you still could not target a mana ability, because they don't use the stack. The sentence on the card's is just reminder text, not rules text, so it has no relevance for the game.