march of the machines + spellbombs

[joshisme]

if i use march of the machines & blow up a spellbomb, would it still be a creature going into the graveyard? I ask, because if it triggers salvaging station's untap ability..it could be lots of fun.

[cdr]

Is your shift key broken?


Æther Spellbomb :1:
Artifact
:u:, Sacrifice Æther Spellbomb: Return target creature to its owner's hand.
:1:, Sacrifice Æther Spellbomb: Draw a card.


March of the Machines :3::u:
Enchantment
Each noncreature artifact is an artifact creature with power and toughness each equal to its converted mana cost. (Equipment that's a creature can't equip a creature.)


Salvaging Station :6:
Artifact
{T}: Return target noncreature artifact card with converted mana cost 1 or less from your graveyard to play.
Whenever a creature is put into a graveyard from play, you may untap Salvaging Station.

Yes, the Station's ability will trigger. This is one of the combos in my infininitecombos.dec.


410.10d. Normally, objects that exist immediately after an event are checked to see if the event matched any trigger conditions. Continuous effects that exist at that time are used to determine what the trigger conditions are and what the objects involved in the event look like. However, some triggered abilities must be treated specially because the object with the ability may no longer be in play, may have moved to a hand or library, or may no longer be controlled by the appropriate player. The game has to "look back in time" to determine if these abilities trigger. Abilities that trigger specifically when an object leaves play, when an object is put into a hand or library from a public zone, or when a player loses control of an object will trigger based on their existence, and the appearance of objects, prior to the event rather than afterward.

Example: Two creatures are in play along with an artifact that has the ability "Whenever a creature is put into a graveyard from play, you gain 1 life." Someone plays a spell that destroys all artifacts, creatures, and enchantments. The artifact's ability triggers twice, even though the artifact goes to its owner's graveyard at the same time as the creatures.

[Joe_C]

if i use march of the machines & blow up a spellbomb, would it still be a creature going into the graveyard? I ask, because if it triggers salvaging station's untap ability..it could be lots of fun.

I would assume this would be going into a casual deck, so here is a combo I played with casually. You need an enchanment that gives all creatures haste and march of the machines in play, a lantern of insight in play, a salvaging station in play, and a psychogenic probe. This gives you an infinite make opponent shuffle library, take 2 damage loop. It is a very odd win condition