[Announcement] FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, IT'S SPELLED 'THRESH' [Archive]

Deep6er

11-13-2008, 02:36 AM

I approve this message. I approve this message like you would not believe.

Threshold. Please. It's very simple. Even Thresh is acceptable.

"Aggro" is taken from the word "aggressive". Please note how the word "aggressive" is spelled.

I'm not asking you to post with strict English standards. I understand some of you aren't native English speakers. That's cool. You're making an effort, and some of you speak better English than others on this board. We appreciate that. We really do. But sometimes, it's legitimately painful to read. I'm being completely honest here. I won't call out people here, as that wouldn't be right, but just an extra minute reading it through might help.

If possible, a vocalization program would help. YouTube has something like that for it's comments section. Copy your response there, then hear it spoken. If the Audio Preview sounds retarded, then you know you've got a problem. Plus, it will help your English. My Mac has a vocalization program built in, so I know there are other avenues.

Please, for the love of all that is holy, help us out on this.

Artowis

11-13-2008, 02:44 AM

Aggro as 'Agro' or 'Argo' is one of my all time pet peeves. Agro is an agricultural term and the latter is a name related to mythology.

It got so bad I basically bitched on TMD until we got a filter installed to fix that shit. At least until the filters fucking broke for whatever reason.

frogboy

11-13-2008, 02:45 AM

I understand some of you aren't native English speakers. That's cool. You're making an effort, and some of you speak better English than others on this board.

This. I don't have a problem with people who aren't native English speakers. I just have a problem with people who are illiterate.

TheInfamousBearAssassin

11-13-2008, 03:08 AM

I'm capable of pretty near to perfect English myself. That being said, I don't give a shit when people misspell words, because the rules of spelling in the English language are extraordinarily arbitrary, dogmatic and nonsensical. 'Agro' would be pronounced the same as 'Aggro'. Considering all the words that aren't pronounced remotely the way that they're spelled, I can live with it. At least most internet shorthand is phonetic, which is more than I can say for half of the dictionary.

A Plan for the Improvement of English Spelling
by Mark Twain

For example, in Year 1 that useless letter "c" would be dropped
to be replased either by "k" or "s", and likewise "x" would no longer
be part of the alphabet. The only kase in which "c" would be retained
would be the "ch" formation, which will be dealt with later. Year 2
might reform "w" spelling, so that "which" and "one" would take the
same konsonant, wile Year 3 might well abolish "y" replasing it with
"i" and Iear 4 might fiks the "g/j" anomali wonse and for all.
Jenerally, then, the improvement would kontinue iear bai iear
with Iear 5 doing awai with useless double konsonants, and Iears 6-12
or so modifaiing vowlz and the rimeining voist and unvoist konsonants.
Bai Iear 15 or sou, it wud fainali bi posibl tu meik ius ov thi
ridandant letez "c", "y" and "x" -- bai now jast a memori in the maindz
ov ould doderez -- tu riplais "ch", "sh", and "th" rispektivli.
Fainali, xen, aafte sam 20 iers ov orxogrefkl riform, wi wud
hev a lojikl, kohirnt speling in ius xrewawt xe Ingliy-spiking werld.

Hanni

11-13-2008, 03:11 AM

I think we need moar ThreshThreshThreshThreshThreshy discussions on these mainboards.

Do not censor evade. >=(
-TOOL

frogboy

11-13-2008, 03:48 AM

'Agro' would be pronounced the same as 'Aggro'.

Sure, but the people who spell it 'agro' are the same kinds of people who want to play Extirpate in Team America.

Brehn

11-13-2008, 03:52 AM

Also, Sensei's Top is not Diving.

Skeggi

11-13-2008, 04:24 AM

Sure, but the people who spell it 'agro' are the same kinds of people who want to play Extirpate in Team America.
Could you elaborate on this? Just a general wondering :wink:.

On a side note, I'd like to mention it's 'Armageddon' and not 'Armaggedon'. (I know a certain mod who gets this wrong every time)

Also, 'Phyrexian Dreadnought'. Not 'Phyrexian Dreadnaught'. Plus, 'Ph' is in 'Phyrexian' is pronounced 'F', not 'P'.

TheInfamousBearAssassin

11-13-2008, 04:33 AM

So why isn't it spelled Friksian Jrednot?

Skeggi

11-13-2008, 04:35 AM

So why isn't it spelled Friksian Jrednot?

That would have been too awesome :wink:

Shugyosha

11-13-2008, 04:42 AM

You do not have a mainboard. You have a maindeck. You also have a sideboard, but that's unrelated.

So you have a main and a side portion of your deck. It would be more consistant to speak of maindeck/sidedeck (which sounds kinda gay) or mainboard/sideboard. Mainboard - at least for me - refers to a deck pre board.

Skeggi

11-13-2008, 05:07 AM

It would be more consistant to speak of maindeck/sidedeck (which sounds kinda gay) or mainboard/sideboard.
The point is, that your maindeck isn't a board. In this case board means "Obsolete. the edge, border, or side of anything.". You can't really say that about something that is the main part of what you use to stomp your opponent. So: maindeck and sideboard. Not sidedeck; it implies you have an entire deck (60+ cards) there. And not mainboard: it's like saying 'funny German' or 'vegetarian hamburger' (I understand people have invented things they call this, but a hamburger is by definition made of meat). It's a contradiction.

P.S. Mainboard to me, refers to a computer's motherboard.

TheLion

11-13-2008, 05:39 AM

Isn't the most annoying thing, when people talk about Arcbound Revenger?

raharu

11-13-2008, 08:00 AM

Also, Sensei's Top is not Diving.
Can't stop laughing.

Nightmare

11-13-2008, 09:24 AM

Although many are making light of this issue, I am of the mind to issue infractions based on sucking at spelling imperative portions of the Legacy lexicon. Threshold has TWO H's. Dreadnought has an O. You all need to update your browsers to use one with an on-board spell check, and then USE it. These words are part of your Magic lifestyle. Why do you all insist on misspelling them?

Deep6er

11-13-2008, 12:35 PM

I endorse that plan as well. Except for the odd cases like Tombstalker, and Tarmogoyf, a spell checker browser would work wonders for the readability of this forum.

Ideally, the infractions incurred for misspellings and whatnot would be minor and transitory at best (hopefully), but still meaningful if there is no apparent attempt at actual improvement. Grammatical errors should (logically) have less impact than spelling errors, but this isn't my call.

I think this would be an improvement all around on people's posting habits and English.

Nightmare

11-13-2008, 12:47 PM

Maveric78f

11-13-2008, 01:48 PM

About aggro I can explain. In french (and probably other latin languages), agressif is written with a single g. that's the same for adresse, ressource, symétrie, etc... So please pardon our french and our dyslexia.

I also think that a lot of people like to write or call thresh trash. I don't do it, but it always makes me smile.

Mordel

11-13-2008, 02:19 PM

This one seriously irritating spelling issue happens on type two forums mostly, but still: holy shit at calling rogue decks, rouge decks...what the hell?!!!! Spell fuckers, spell!
I remember someone spelled ravager as revenger once and I almost shit a brick. I screamed at him "how do you not know how to spell the name of the card that makes your fucking deck win?!!!!". People told me to chill, so this thread's existence is reassuring to dickheads like me.

I was confused by the whole Thrash thing. I wondering if some tweak had warranted the variation in the name or if dummies were at work. I blame deckcheck for having a deck listed as UBG Thrash.

quicksilver

11-13-2008, 02:32 PM

It annoys me when people make thread titles all in caps.

GreenOne

11-13-2008, 02:32 PM

It's not Macaroni but Maccheroni. And spaghetti is spelled with an H. Mafia has just one F and amigo is a spanish word, not an italian one. But we usually don't care. Also, the word "Revenger" is spelled zero times on the source, so take it easy too. Be patient with foreigners, we're still learning. :smile:

Benie Bederios

11-13-2008, 02:37 PM

Also, the word "Revenger" is spelled zero times on the source, so take it easy too. Be patient with foreigners, we're still learning. :smile:

How can you say that... It is twice in this thread already!

BB

xsockmonkeyx

11-13-2008, 02:38 PM

This is why we can't have nice things.

n00bas4urus_r3x

11-13-2008, 02:39 PM

Wow, the Source is full of all sorts of win lately.

Proof reading. It's your friend.

Illissius

11-13-2008, 02:57 PM

Thrash = Thresh with Wastelands and Stifle

Thrash is also a lot more amusing (or infuriating, as the case may be) when people misspell it omitting the first 'h'. I've seen that, too. (Also, misspell is spelled misspell. I checked.)

frogboy

11-13-2008, 02:58 PM

holy shit at calling rogue decks, rouge decks...what the hell?!!!! Spell fuckers, spell!

Oh man, I forgot about this one, but the next person who fucks it up is getting all kinds of red text.

TheInfamousBearAssassin

11-13-2008, 03:06 PM

rofl i don noe wut u gais r tokkin bout.

sometimes the matadors get gored. I'mjustsayin' ---frogboy

Atwa

11-13-2008, 03:09 PM

I for one, an going to install an english spellingschecker for firefox. I know my english has improved a lot in the 3 years since I've come to this site, but I know I still make a lot of mistakes.

Writing in a foreign language isn't easy when you are dyslectic (I can't even write good in Dutch). I think because of this I don't mind mistakes in spelling or grammar, however I get really frustrated by lack of punctiation.

Zilla made a very nice comment about that which resulted in sex with a horse if I remember clearly (it's in the quotes-thread)

Nightmare

11-13-2008, 03:12 PM

Zilla made a very nice comment about that which resulted in sex with a horse if I remember clearly (it's in the quotes-thread)

Grammar is the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse, and helping your uncle jack off a horse.

Tilde

11-13-2008, 03:27 PM

I was confused by the whole Thrash thing. I wondering if some tweak had warranted the variation in the name or if dummies were at work. I blame deckcheck for having a deck listed as UBG Thrash.

What are you talking about? Thrashold is a great deck! Tammergoff is one of the best creatures in the format, and the Can't Balance/Sammy's Divine Top engine isn't too shabby either.

Taurelin

11-13-2008, 03:35 PM

Capitalization is the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse, and helping your uncle jack off a horse.

Grammar is the ambiguity of sentences like:
"Kissing girls can be dangerous."

Btw, "agro" can refer to things related to farming, like agrochemicals and stuff. In terms of magic, playing an "agro"-deck means having 4 Swords to Plowshares (old design) maindeck. :wink:

A last word:
Sylvan Messenger =|= Syphilis Manager
(just in case you didn't know)

TheLion

11-13-2008, 03:37 PM

Also, the word "Revenger" is spelled zero times on the source, so take it easy too. Be patient with foreigners, we're still learning. :smile:

Sorry, it was "Revanger" and "Ravenger".

ParkerLewis

11-13-2008, 04:53 PM

In terms of magic, playing an "agro"-deck means having 4 Swords to Plowshares

I loled :laugh:

Tosh

11-13-2008, 05:09 PM

holy shit at calling rogue decks, rouge decks...what the hell?!!!! Spell fuckers, spell!

I also find it hilarious when people, in WoW, spell "rogue" wrong.

Mordel

11-13-2008, 05:20 PM

I have actually seen ravager spelled as revenger twice...probably by different people in light of the first incident.

What I eluded to was a "live-action" occurrence at a ptq involving a kid(fifteen or something probably) whose list I had seen.

Zinch

11-13-2008, 05:32 PM

Btw, "agro" can refer to things related to farming, like agrochemicals and stuff. In terms of magic, playing an "agro"-deck means having 4 Swords to Plowshares (old design) maindeck. :wink:

Or maybe 4 mulch... :tongue:

TheInfamousBearAssassin

11-13-2008, 05:48 PM

rofl i don noe wut u gais r tokkin bout.

sometimes the matadors get gored. I'mjustsayin' ---frogboy

True story. A man goes to Madrid to see the bullfights, and afterwards he goes to a little restaurant in the back of the arena. He orders the spaghetti and meatballs, and is enjoying his meal when he looks over at the VIP table, where some fat schmuck is chomping on his spaghetti with these two huge, beautiful looking meatballs on top. He looks at the giant meatballs, then at his suddenly dinky-looking little meatballs, and calls the waiter over to angrily demand why he doesn't have gigantic meatballs. The waiter says, "Ah, senore, that is the VIP meal, balls from losing bull. Only one served a day."

So the man determines that he needs to eat those giant, juicy, beautiful looking balls, and reserves the next available table. Doesn't even ask how much it costs. He's too excited about his giant meatballs to even watch the bullfight, just going to the restaurant, fork and knife in hand, waiting for his meal to be ready. When it finally comes out, it just has two of those same shriveled, dinky looking meatballs. He calls the waiter over and asks, "What the fuck? Where are my giant bull balls?"

The waiter shrugs and says, "Senore, the bull, sometimes he wins."

Arkham

11-13-2008, 06:08 PM

Threshold. Please. It's very simple. Even Thresh is acceptable.

Yes, well, Aggro Loam can still take Thresh to the woodshed and beat it's ass with both the maindeck and its sideboard. Hickory whip style.

Aggro as 'Agro' or 'Argo' is one of my all time pet peeves. Agro is an agricultural term and the latter is a name related to mythology.

Yeah, like with wash. You don't need to say warsh, you can say wash. Accent be damned.

Grammar Nazis! *shakes an angry fist*

frogboy

11-13-2008, 06:09 PM

You don't need to say warsh, you can say wash. Accent be damned.

This is a dialect thing, different from illiteracy.

Arkham

11-13-2008, 06:12 PM

This is a dialect thing, different from illiteracy.

Oh, I didn't realize my sarcasm had to be that specific. My bad. And I was referring more to pet peeves in general than the subject at hand anyway. :tongue:

Bane of the Living

11-13-2008, 09:33 PM

Who cares how you spell it?

Why is anyone even still calling it thresh? It only plays 4 cards out of 56 with it. Nimble Mongoose does not create an archetype.

Just give everything obscure names like Solidarity. Do you name your dog canine companion? Do you name your xbox account microsoft conformist?

I'm naming my next deck obese stinker destroyer.

Sanguine Voyeur

11-13-2008, 09:44 PM

Who cares how you spell it?The administration, obviously.
Just give everything obscure names like Solidarity. Do you name your dog canine companion? Do you name your xbox account microsoft conformist?This is a confused sentiment. You propose that Thresh's name is inaccurate, then suggest using unrelated names like Solidarity. You are complaining about names that describe the deck, after stating that Thresh doesn't describe the deck.

Forbiddian

11-13-2008, 10:10 PM

Tosh

11-13-2008, 11:07 PM

He's arguing that Thresh as a name no longer applies.

He's also saying that from now on, we should name our decks obscure names so that changes in deck design don't invalidate the titles.

At least I think. His examples didn't make too much in the way of sense.

I think "thresh" is an obscure name that doesn't describe the deck...

@Bane
So, you want to change a name that doesn't describe the deck to another name that doesn't describe the deck? The deck I frequently is called It's the Fear, but the fear mechanic isn't in it at all so is that deck's name just as inaccurate as thresh's?

Jaiminho

11-13-2008, 11:18 PM

I always thought I had to play 16+ threshold cards in ThreshThreshThreshThreshThresh. And that I couldn't play Team America because I'm Brazilian. I can't express how I feel right now... it's a huge relief.

TreshTresh -- OMG! IT PASSED IN MULTIPLES!

ParkerLewis

11-14-2008, 03:15 AM

I don't understand the whole problem.

Rather, I do understand it, it also pisses me off, but there's an easy solution.

Instead of censoring the h-less version of Thresh and replacing it by the Thres^5 (or so) monstruosity, just keep censoring it, but replace it by a big bold fat red text that says "I'm a moron and I can't spell Thresh correctly".

Or simply "I'm a moron". Seriously, people will catch up in no time.

Pinder

11-14-2008, 03:25 AM

Instead of censoring the h-less version of Thresh and replacing it by the Thres^5 (or so) monstruosity, just keep censoring it, but replace it by a big bold fat red text that says "I'm a moron and I can't spell Thresh correctly".

Don't think this wasn't thought of before. Originally it was suggested in the Adept Lounge that "t.resh" simply filter to "thresh", but it turns out that the way filters work in vBulliten is that you can only specify a string to replace each character in the word of choice with. Presumably it's so you can replace all those naughty swearwords with asterisks, but it really sucks when your intent is to replace one word with another. So we can replace each letter in "t.resh" with the word "Thresh", but not the entire word itself.

It's dumb, I know.

edit- Periods for word filter evasion. Word filter evasion for clarity. Therefore, periods for clarity QED.

edit2 - Periods didn't work, so I switched to 'permil' character. Take that, wordfilter.

edit3 - Fuck you, word filter. All instances of that word replaced with the phrase "you know what word I'm talking about".

edit4 - Put periods in the middle of the word. The day is mine, wordfilter!

Mordel

11-14-2008, 03:39 AM

Why are people attacking the deck still having its name. Folks aren't talking about an issue stemmed in nomenclature, they are talking about an issue that concerns dunces that need to spell the name of one of the most well-known and time-tested 1.5 staple decks.

Why not find the worst offender and sentence him to having his genitals hitched to a mule and being dragged all over the countryside for no less than two days?

frogboy

11-14-2008, 03:43 AM

Why not find the worst offender and sentence him to having his genitals hitched to a mule and being dragged all over the countryside for no less than two days?

I like the way you think. Despite your Canuck nature, you get a pass on coolness.

Mordel

11-14-2008, 03:48 AM

I got another idea too if they are too elusive:replace their goatse or something.

ThoseWhoFearTomorrow

11-14-2008, 11:32 AM

Yeah, like with wash. You don't need to say warsh, you can say wash. Accent be damned.

Aaaahhh! This is my biggest pet peeve. Everyone in the Nasty says warsh.

Still pronunciation is what gets me more than spelling. I can't count how many kids (yes I am a grumpy old man, these kids were under 20) talked about my Pithing Needles with a long I sound at GP: Flash. Uh.

Isamaru

11-14-2008, 11:33 AM

Agreed, but "Thresh" still makes me cringe.

I think 'mainboard' should be allowed.

Volt

11-14-2008, 01:45 PM

While we're at it...

There is no 'a' anywhere in definite.

Also, when you fail to win, you don't "loose." You lose.

Finn

11-14-2008, 01:57 PM

We could go back to calling it GRO or NQG. Or we could go for the more accurate "allthehideouslyundercostedaggro-controlelementsinonedeck".

Also,
Also, when you fail to win, you don't "loose." You lose.If I had a dollar every time...

quicksilver

11-14-2008, 02:14 PM

Still pronunciation is what gets me more than spelling. I can't count how many kids (yes I am a grumpy old man, these kids were under 20) talked about my Pithing Needles with a long I sound at GP: Flash. Uh.

Actually everyone pronounces Pithing Needle with a long i. I am the only one I know who pronounces it correcty with a short i. Pith is actually a word, and it's not spelled Pithe. But I try to be a tolerant guy, so I don't let it bother me and don't try to correct people.

Nightmare

11-14-2008, 02:17 PM

Actually everyone pronounces Pithing Needle with a long i. I am the only one I know who pronounces it correcty with a short i. Pith is actually a word, and it's not spelled Pithe. But I try to be a tolerant guy, so I don't let it bother me and don't try to correct people.

I'm with you duder. I'm the other guy who didn't have to look up "pith" in the dictionary.

Forbiddian

11-14-2008, 02:50 PM

Pithing Needle.

Other mispronounced stuff:

Yoh-ten Grunt. (A lot of people say Joe-ten)
Mon-uh. (Everyone, even Richard Garfield, says man-uh)
Umezawa's ''Zhoot-eey (gee-tay, ugh)

There's a lot more, obviously. These don't bother me because they're so common, although they probably should bother me.

I'm just glad Wizards stopped printing Kjeldoran stuff. I always said "Geld-or-an" with a silent K. Other people would say "Kuh-geld-or-an" or even "Keldoran" which is very confusing since Keld was a different civilization during Ice Age. Everyone was confused, though, so whatever.

Aether bothers me when people fuck it up. "I cast my Ay-ther Vial" "No you don't, dumbass." It's something that people really should know (but then again, people should know mana since they probably say it 17 times a game).

Nightmare

11-14-2008, 02:53 PM

Totally irrelevant. We're not pronouncing stuff on this site. Also, there are colloquial language differences in different areas that make those pronunciations vary from place to place. Although, don't get me started on "Adakar" wastes. It's Ah-dark-arrrrrr, people. Named after an actual person.

Forbiddian

11-14-2008, 03:01 PM

Everyone's interpreting this as that-thread-where-you-post-your-pet-peeves-about-people-not-knowing-anything.

If you want it to stay on topic, just lock it, because there's nothing more to be said. It's spelled thresh, duh.

Nightmare

11-14-2008, 03:05 PM

Swing4Five

11-14-2008, 03:15 PM

Aether Storm used to be an awesome card. For like three days when I was 13.

For a minute I thought you were talking about Æther Flash, which was sick when my middle school play group was just beginning to get good at the game.

Nihil Credo

11-14-2008, 03:40 PM

Aether Storm used to be an awesome card. For like three days when I was 13.
Lead into it with a Pithing Needle naming Æther Storm and it's still pretty cool.

Mordel

11-14-2008, 03:52 PM

With the way names mutate, a name that mutates that happens to reflect a mechanic is incidental. There is a deck named after the nickname of plaguelord and it retains the name based on the inclusion of two colours...

Do people really want to try to rename a deck???

I'd much rather have those responsible for somehow mispellling the first five letters of the mechanic printed one of the format's best creatures(which their deck has four of!!!RARGH!!) drawn by horses or perhaps red hot needles stuck in their penis holes, though the party involved might gouge their eyes out after seeing the pimpled-genitalia of the offender.

You have to break some eggs to make an omelet though.

Apex

11-14-2008, 11:31 PM

While we're at it...

Also, when you fail to win, you don't "loose." You lose.

I agree.

I fucking hate this shit. I mean seriously, I've seen it so many times that I've wondered whether "loose" was the correct spelling for like another country or something (like Behaviour and Behavior).

Maybe some people think that 2 "oo"s elongate the sound or something. :mad:

Tangent to Adakar Wastes: I remembered for the longest time I thought that card read Aardvark Wastes. I was like, feces from an animal represent blue and white mana?