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Mordel
12-11-2008, 11:00 PM
Something occurred to me today and even though I really like the decks I generally play, they often seem to be extremely dissatisfying to play online because random people often have a tendency to not bother to try to win and just scoop and look for another game that I assume they will hope to win.

Personally, I enjoy the road to victory and the strategy used to win a lot more than actually winning. I obviously like winning a lot, but I will enjoy myself almost as much in losing a really, really tight game as I would a really really tight win.

Lately, I have been playing 'Geddon $tax and as much as I like the deck and enjoy playing it, it is one of the most unsatisfying decks to play with because it is a complete dog in games where it does not cooperate and is almost equally annoying in how a lot of people will just scoop in the first game without even trying to win as soon as I get a part of a lock out. It's totally retarded. One of the first things I learned in tournaments and competitive play is don't scoop as soon as you think you might lose in the first game and at least try to make your opponent work for it a bit so you can get more info about their deck before you move on to the second game for siding.

Anyway, I'm just curious what competitive decks people find dissatisfying and also very satisfying to play and win with online/irl. I know that online is different because there are some losers out there that will join a casual game online with their TEPS deck and so forth and seem to only play to win and seem to have no interest in any of the finer aspects of the game, so that's why I am asking about both irl and online.

For me, one of my most dissatisfying decks to play online is $tax and the most satisfying is mono blue draw-go.

Bryant Cook
12-11-2008, 11:03 PM
For me since I created my deck, TES is always a blast for me to play. I love being in bad positions and trying to find a way out. People would think goldfishing my opponents gets old, NOPE! For me it's something that will never grow old.

Mordel
12-11-2008, 11:19 PM
Nice, yeah I wouldn't be able to do the combo thing and enjoy it a lot every time. I like to fight my way out of really bad situations by being tricky and manipulating my opponent if I can and then completely gain control of the game. I love that shit.

AngryTroll
12-12-2008, 12:09 AM
In person, I really enjoy playing games where I have lots of opportunities to outplay my opponents. I used to enjoy playing Thresh and enjoying that feeling of always being just half a step ahead of my opponent until I won; now, playing Thresh means feeling a few steps behind while I get smashed.

As un-fun as it sounds, as long as neither person has a dumb hand, I really enjoy the Survival mirror. Especially when I know I'm the slightly better player with the slightly better build, those games put me in the position where I outplayed my opponent and win a close game.

Loam decks, while awesome and fun for a little while, end up feeling dirty while I play with my turn forever, look at 10 cards, and then smash my opponent. Satisfying...but dirty.

Whit3 Ghost
12-12-2008, 12:20 AM
There are days where I want to kill turn one, days where I want to answer everything, days I want to play resource denial, days where I want to creature swarm and so on and so forth. Survival was the one deck I never really got into.

rockout
12-12-2008, 12:23 AM
I used to test Dragonstompy on MWS because I wanted to find a replacement for Arc Slogger and turn 1 moon effect/trinisphere caused too many System Player Lost.

I'd have to say any deck that plays Force of Will is satisfying for me to play in person. The ability to do something and know that you are protected with a extra padded helmet that a handicapped child would wear is a nice feeling.

Pulp_Fiction
12-12-2008, 12:25 AM
The most satisfying deck that I ever played was Netherhaups. Back when Invasion was just released into type 2, the deck was all about Vampiric Tutoring for Jokulhaups or Obliterate and then winning with Nether Spirit and Chimeric Idol. Using the sac lands from Invasion to power out a turn 3 Jokulhaups was SO much fun and the most satisfying game ever was against Mono-U 20counter.dec. Everything I played was countered including Nether Spirit, then when I cast Obliterate and he tried to counter it but I insisted he read the card, it was just like a massive FUCK YOU AND UR GAY ASS BORING DECK. One of the best things ever in Magic! Currently the most satisfying deck for me to play is Eternal Garden/Loam variants. There is an insane amount of thought that goes into what lands to search out, when to dredge, did I tap right, what should I recur, is it to early to cast Wish? I love playing the Eternal Garden deck because it makes you constantly think and it doesn't forgive play errors which in turn makes you a better magic player. Plus it is just bas ass having my opponents constantly read Ghost Quarter to make sure it really is Strip Mine when they are out of basics!

puppektion
12-12-2008, 02:09 AM
I'm not going to lie, I'll play most decks, but there is one that I refuse to play anymore.

Solidarity makes me want to blow my brains out

Mordel
12-12-2008, 02:14 AM
Oh my god, I remember netherhaups! I loved that deck.

Taurelin
12-12-2008, 04:59 AM
Solidarity makes me want to blow my brains out

You mean playing against it, or playing it yourself?

I also have strong feelings towards Solidarity. I adore the deck, I love playing it in real life, but I hate playing it on MWS. Either the shuffler betrays me, or I get


Player plays random spell from Hand
<Taurelin>in response:
Taurelin plays High Tide from Hand
<System>Player Lost

Super fun...

Mordel
12-12-2008, 05:02 AM
In the context of the rest of the comment, I think he means playing with it.

--At least that's how I interpreted it.

As someone that has been on the receiving end of a solidarity deck, it is really annoying waiting during their five minute turn on mws only to have them fizz out and then take a turn that is ten minutes long a few turns later and finally win in the first game...very annoying. What I like about the the newer tendrils decks, especially with the addition of Ad Nauseum is that when they go off, I am pretty safe in scooping and knowing that they will win that turn.

With decks like Solidarity, you don't know if your opponent is competent a lot of the time, so you will wait through the brutal ten minute turn just in case they shoot a blank or because you have a blessing in your deck.

Then again, the decks I tend to chose have lost if a combo player starts to go off and have no ways to interrupt it either most of the time.

Maveric78f
12-12-2008, 06:19 AM
The deck I enjoyed the most to play was warpworld in Ravnica's T2. It was too fun.

The deck I prefer to play now is Big Fish (http://www.deckcheck.net/deck.php?id=20578), because that's the only deck I play well, because I made it, because it owns my local meta and because most players don't know how to play against.

Ectoplasm
12-12-2008, 06:34 AM
I like goblins.
There's something satisfying about having a vial on 3 and nothing on the table, your opponent attacks, EOT you vial in a warchief and during your turn you drop a piledriver, a matron and find another piledriver, drop it and swing.

It feels like being a ninja.
Hell, I'd play a ninjadeck if I had more cards to choose from but until then I'll stick to beating up people with angry green men.

Sanguine Voyeur
12-12-2008, 06:39 AM
Wildfire for online. Against MWS randoms, you'll either be facing terrible decks like vampire tribal, or decks that people want to learn like Thresh. Wildfire is good against crap and 'refined' blue decks like Thresh and Landstill.

Jugglin
12-12-2008, 06:39 AM
For me, the most satisfying deck to play on MWS must be Wildfire.
Might not be the best deck and gets raped by most everything that packs Wastelands or ways to destroy my artifacts.
But most people don't know what my deck is supposed to be and just overextend like crazy till they run into a well timed Burning of Xinye, or Devastation.
Also, love playing against everything Threshold because I pack a set of Akroma, Angel of Fury. And of course, I hardcast it like a real man.
Most of the time, they still try to counter her or play a Swords to Plowshares. :D
Btw, yesterday I had a crazy game against Imperial Painter where a sole Akroma won me the game.

Least satifying to play for me personally, must be my Trinketpainter deck.
A quick 'Player Lost' is common when I get either part of my combo down, with my opponent saying I'm a noob, the combo sucks etc.

kicks_422
12-12-2008, 07:35 AM
Least satisfying is Storm combo. Almost everybody quits before you get to blast their heads off with Tendrils. I mean, if I spend a lot of time knocking my head around to get around hate and to win, the least the opponent can do is to actually take the 30 life loss.

Bryant Cook
12-12-2008, 10:58 AM
Almost everybody quits before you get to blast their heads off with Tendrils. I mean, if I spend a lot of time knocking my head around to get around hate and to win, the least the opponent can do is to actually take the 30 life loss.

QTF. However, this rarely happens IRL.

socialite
12-12-2008, 10:59 AM
Faerie Stompy IMO.

It is a blast to play it is also very good yet somewhat inconsistent if you have no idea how to properly shuffle. The deck won't cause your opponents to not have fun, but is still capable of doing stupid broken shit.

Joe_C
12-12-2008, 12:30 PM
Dragonstompy is good IRL, not so kind online. The MWS shuffler does brutal things both ways sometimes.

Ichorid is fun too when it works, seems to go off more often on MWS than in real testing

TheRock
12-12-2008, 12:34 PM
I hate aggro decks. I just SUCK at playing pure aggro decks. It shouldn't be possible to suck with aggro decks as much as I do and it shouldn't be possible to not understand the art of Timmy like I apparently don't.

I love control and combo decks. There is absolutely nothing more fun than playing Spring Tide, Solidarity, Aluren, Landstill, and resolving cards like Counterbalance, Brain Freeze, Tendrils, and Counterspell.

Brad Herbig
12-12-2008, 01:34 PM
Dragon Stompy is fun to play in real life, but not in MWS. I also like playing combo, of most varieties. Even the bad combos that don't win competitively, like Izzet Guildmage + Desperate Ritual + Lava Spike.

emidln
12-12-2008, 02:40 PM
DDFT I have basically the same reasons as Bryant. Combo always provides challenging situations with intricate and complex interactions that reward good decisions with wins that appear as true magic to outsiders and and harshly punish poor decisions. Plus I get to yell out" DOOOOOOMssssDAY"

Jade
12-12-2008, 03:58 PM
I love to play Solidarity and I like decks like Dragon Stompy, Eva Green or Team America.
The least satisfying deck I played so far was Belcher. Its fun a few games, but becomes boring so fast.

I like to play against Thresh / Landstill / ITF and such. These games tend to be open 'till the end and I like it if my opponent feels he got a chance to win :cool:

Im not sure about Tendrils-decks like TES / FT / ANT and Dredge. I know they are not overpowered yet, but still I'm afraid that they become too powerful and ruin the format. They're okay at the moment, though.

Oh, and there's Dreadstill. I hate Dreadstill...

Mordel
12-12-2008, 04:04 PM
Ugh, with what I am playing right now, the dreadstill match is a perfect example of a match I just sort of win, but still hate:

I just sit around, lay more lands after a hopefully explosive first turn and beat the during standstills with factorays. The whole match takes like an hour and a half most of the time if it goes into a third game...it's horrible. Dreadstill takes forever to beat and is us waiting and waiting.

Enigma
12-12-2008, 11:59 PM
The thing I like the most is disrupting, disrupting.. fetching, land destruction, land destruction and then... play Tombstalker. Yep, Team America is so fun to play.

But I find Dreadstill just more consistent. What I hate of it is being paranoyak to play Dreadnought against controls deck because I fear loosing 2 cards by 1. It's really hard to know when to play it.

I used to have fun playing goblins... but I just prefere control decks now.

Favorite creature is Nimble Mongoose. If I could, I would put this creature in every deck. It's so damn good.

Aggro_zombies
12-13-2008, 12:32 AM
I don't play on MWS. I'm stuck with permanent MWS shuffler luck in real life, I don't want to compound that on a computer.

As far as play decks in real life: I hate playing combo decks because I have permanent MWS shuffler luck. I have played more than one game where I play Ad Nauseum, then flip the other Ad Nauseum, Ill-Gotten Gains, and Tendrils in that order and thereby killed myself (in a deck with 2 AN, 1 IGG, 1 Tendrils). All I needed was one more Lotus Petal to win, is that too much to ask for?! ;-;

I also don't like tempo-oriented decks. They're just boring to play and tend to roll over and die if the opponent can get out from under the disruption.

As for most satisfying, I dunno. It would either be my old janky black Threshold deck from a year ago, or Diglett (neither of them are very good, but they're fun!). I generally like just about anything with Life from the Loam in it.

SuperBean
12-13-2008, 01:32 AM
Bryant's T.E.S, and 1-Land Belcher are probably my most favorite to play.

Because like others, I too enjoy playing against rough matchups and trying to find a way out of situations that seem impossible to play out of. Plus.. I love to piss off people in my local meta who just bitch, bitch, bitch about combo decks. :tongue:

MattH
12-19-2008, 03:55 PM
Enchantress is just a huge blast to play. You get to throw your entire deck at the opponent!

honz
12-20-2008, 06:03 PM
least satisfying deck ever, to play with or against, is Second Sunrise Eggs. You spend 30 min watching eggs go back and forth between grave, and play just to topdeck 10 lands in a row and fizzle. Sunrise eggs wasted way too much of my life...

On a brighter note, i really enjoy: enchantress, aluren, and some days UGr swan thresh. Decks that really interact with your opponent, and have aggro and combo elements are rather amusing. These decks also have alot of close games, and many even match ups. This is great because, let's face it, playing belcher against burn all day just isn't too much fun.