RoddyVR
01-03-2009, 01:28 AM
The question about LED and madness just reminded me that i wanted to ask this a couple weeks ago.
Can i stifle madness on a card?
502.24. Madness
502.24a Madness is a keyword that represents two abilities. The first is a static ability that functions while the card with madness is in a player's hand. The second is a triggered ability that functions when the first ability is applied. "Madness [cost]" means "If a player would discard this card, that player discards it, but may remove it from the game instead of putting it into his or her graveyard" and "When this card is removed from the game this way, its owner may play it by paying [cost] rather than paying its mana cost. If that player doesn't, he or she puts this card into his or her graveyard."
502.24b Playing a spell using its madness ability follows the rules for paying alternative costs in rules 409.1b and 409.1f-h.
Can i stifle that second ability and does that leave hte madness card removed from the game?
This came up in a match two sundays ago, and while i was prety sure i could stifle madness (just from memory) my opponent (playing a madness deck) said i couldnt... that i could counter the spell, but not stifle... I asked the guy who was subbing for the judge and he was sure i couldnt either, so i just let it go. But considering i run stifle maindeck, this would actualy be prety important if i run into the same guy again day after tomorow.
Can i stifle madness on a card?
502.24. Madness
502.24a Madness is a keyword that represents two abilities. The first is a static ability that functions while the card with madness is in a player's hand. The second is a triggered ability that functions when the first ability is applied. "Madness [cost]" means "If a player would discard this card, that player discards it, but may remove it from the game instead of putting it into his or her graveyard" and "When this card is removed from the game this way, its owner may play it by paying [cost] rather than paying its mana cost. If that player doesn't, he or she puts this card into his or her graveyard."
502.24b Playing a spell using its madness ability follows the rules for paying alternative costs in rules 409.1b and 409.1f-h.
Can i stifle that second ability and does that leave hte madness card removed from the game?
This came up in a match two sundays ago, and while i was prety sure i could stifle madness (just from memory) my opponent (playing a madness deck) said i couldnt... that i could counter the spell, but not stifle... I asked the guy who was subbing for the judge and he was sure i couldnt either, so i just let it go. But considering i run stifle maindeck, this would actualy be prety important if i run into the same guy again day after tomorow.