Conflux Card Interaction

[TheDrunkDwarf]

Here is a card spoiled on mtgsalvation:

Esperzoa 2U
Artifact Creature - Jellyfish Uncommon
Flying
At the beginning of your upkeep, return an artifact you control to its owner's hand.
4/3

Is there a way to stack this creatures' ability with tangle wire's so that you avoid the wire's tapping altogether? (i.e. if the wire and esperzoa are already in play during your upkeep?) Thanks!

[Pinder]

Unfortunately, no.



402.6. Once activated or triggered, an ability exists independently of its source as an ability on the stack. Destruction or removal of the source after that time won’t affect the ability. Note that some abilities cause a source to do something (for example, “Prodigal Sorcerer deals 1 damage to target creature or player”) rather than the ability doing anything directly. In these cases, any activated or triggered ability that references information about the source because the effect needs to be divided checks that information when the ability is put onto the stack. Otherwise, it will check that information when it resolves. In both instances, if the source is no longer in play, its last known information is used.


You can stack it so that Esperzoa's ability will bounce the Tangle Wire before you have to tap, but even if it's not in play when the ability resolves, it will look at the last known information before it got bounced and force you to tap a permanent for each counter that was on it when you bounced it.

Next best thing is to just wait until it runs out, and bounce it in response to the fading trigger, then replay it, giving you infy Tangle Wires against your opponent.