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ykpon
01-09-2009, 02:49 PM
hi, i need some help with choosing a deck for my meta. i was always playing different board controls (rifter, geddon stax etc.) but now aggroloam became popular enough to start playing something else.
besides aggroloam (the main threat i care about, 2-3 loams in each top8) popular decks to beat are dredge, thresh/fish and survival.
goblins, ant and team america arent that popular but sometimes win tornaments, so i shouldnt have dead mu's against these decks too.
i think any fast combo is ok in such meta but i'm not sure i can get LED's now. i also havent sinkholes to make TA and some specific cards like reset, imperial recruiter, multiple moats (i can get 1 of) etc.
what do u think i should play in such meta? aggroloam too? dreadstill? LEDless dredge mb? no idea what is better here.
thx.
abbeyroad
01-10-2009, 03:16 PM
Dreadstill seems like the appropriate choice for your meta. Dreadstill goes about 50/50 with Thresh, Dreadstill can easily race
aggroloam with Dreadnought, and it has a good chance against Ichorid as you can put it on a fast clock via dreadnought (also for
the second and third match you have graveyard hate options). Survival seems easy to beat with dreadstill; however, I have no
experience in this match up. Dreadstill does have a bad matchup against TA, but, you said that the deck was not that popular in
your meta.
Nihil Credo
01-10-2009, 03:35 PM
If properly built, classic Armageddon Stax should actually be a good choice against most of the decks you listed; if I'm not confused, the Stax thread recently featured some discussion about how to best tune it against Aggro Loam. Dredge is very easy; Thresh-y decks are never too bad, and often quite good; Survival is often tough but most variants can be efficiently attacked via Wastelands and Tabernacle effects. The other matchups you listed are also beatable, except for the slower ANT lists that run good SB answers to your hate.
It always retains the problem of not being too consistent, but frankly if a deck was able to reliably beat everything you listed it would be the new best deck. Also, if you know the players in your metagame very well (you're from the Benelux zone, I would guess?), knowing how to mulligan in game 1 is an insane help with Stax, much more than with other decks.
Other than that, Dreadstill is always pretty ridiculous when people aren't used to playing against it, since you'll see your opponents constantly misassign their role and give you easy wins; but at the same time, you need to have some good practice with the deck yourself (note quite as much as ANT, but still a lot compared to more straightforward decks). And if you need to buy Dreadnoughts, they're more expensive than LEDs.
For a more rogue choice, a Green/White Death and Taxes deck has access to all the tools to beat every deck you listed, but you need to really trust in your luck to draw what you need in each specific matchup, even more than with Stax.
Finally, I have little experience with the deck so I don't feel very qualified to bring it up, but a Sligh-ish deck of the 20 guys / 20 burn / 20 lands variant can be a nightmare to Aggro Loam decks and problematic to both Dredge and Survival (if you run Fanatic). The downside is that you are generally unfavoured to win matches when Counterbalance appears, and against ANT you need to hope for some serious luck (but at least it's not a complete autoloss since they're often forced to go for the IGG loop, which is relatively easier to attack).
Pulp_Fiction
01-11-2009, 02:03 PM
Wow, no joke, thats like my dream meta right there. I would be playing combo every tournament I went to. LEDs are worth the investment, however, if you play combo you also have to own Orim's Chant which have gotten a little cheaper but are still expensive as hell. If I were you I would gets LEDs and Chants and either build TES, Doomsday Fetchland Tendrils, or Hybrid Ad Nauseam decks with Doomsday. Any of these decks would destroy that meta. Personally I would play Doomsday Fetchland Tendrils since it doesn't seem like you have lots of crazy fast aggro and DDFT has the best answers to the hate.
mercenarybdu
01-11-2009, 09:41 PM
Dreadstill, and if you can't afford that, then Landstill is close enough....
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