Shackles + Evoke.

[citanul]

This question arose during the last tournament that I played; My opponent had a creature out and a Vedalken Shackles untapped along with the two needed lands to activate. I had a Shriekmaw in hand to kill the creature but was worried about the interaction with the Shackles. I called the Judge who seemed in doubt but ruled that it would be destroyed eventually.

Now, I know that when you Evoke a creature, put the trigger on the stack and then use a card like Momentary Blink it will not die because it left the zone and is considered another creature. The original trigger will not find the new(er) creature and be countered upon resolution.

With Shackles it's different, it stays in the same zone, or so I think, I don't know for sure and that's the origin of my question: If an evoked creature is taken over with Vedalken Shackles, does the Evoke trigger resolve and does it kill the creature?

[Skeggi]

502.74.Ruling.3 - If a creature spell played with evoke changes controllers before it comes into play, it will still be sacrificed when it comes into play. Similarly, if a creature played with evoke changes controllers after it comes into play but before its sacrifice ability resolves, it will still be sacrificed. [Lorwyn FAQ 2007/09/25]

[Jujuhawk]

Can you steal a reveillark and get the trigger if they evoke?

[Skeggi]

Yes:


When Reveillark leaves play, return up to two target creature cards with power 2 or less from your graveyard to play.

Whoever controls Reveillark at the point he leaves play gets to return two target creature cards with power 2 or less from his or her graveryard to play.

Edit:

Evoke reads: "You may play this card by paying [cost] rather than paying its mana cost" and "When this permanent comes into play, if its evoke cost was paid, its controller sacrifices it."

When a player declares to play a Reveillark for its Evoke cost, you can let it resolve and respond to the Come into Play trigger. Before that trigger resolves, you could, for instance, activate a Vedalken Shackles and steal the Reveillark. If no one else wants to respond and everything resolves as is, the Reveillark will die and you get to search your graveyard.

[Jujuhawk]

Okay, I was just unsure about the timing of it.

EDIT: Such justice.

[cdr]

Now, I know that when you Evoke a creature, put the trigger on the stack and then use a card like Momentary Blink it will not die because it left the zone and is considered another creature. The original trigger will not find the new(er) creature and be countered upon resolution.

Nitpick: The Evoke sacrifice trigger won't be countered, but rather it will do nothing because the creature it refers to is no longer there. The only time the rules counter spells/abilities is when they have target(s) and all the targets are illegal upon resolution.


With Shackles it's different, it stays in the same zone, or so I think, I don't know for sure and that's the origin of my question: If an evoked creature is taken over with Vedalken Shackles, does the Evoke trigger resolve and does it kill the creature?

Most older sacrifice triggers just say "when [x] happens, sacrifice it" or similar. If you're not the controller of something, you can't sacrifice it. So for those cards if control changed in response to the trigger, it would not be sacrificed. See Mistbind Clique (http://magiccards.info/lw/en/75.html) for instance - if your opponent gains control of Clique in response to the champion trigger, even if you don't champion something when the trigger resolves, it can't be sacrificed.

Evoke was deliberately worded so that the creature would always get sacrificed, by saying "its controller sacrifices it".