Flame-Kin Zealot

[lordofthepit]

Do creatures that come into play after Flame-Kin Zealot also get a +1/+1 and haste bonus? For instance, if I have 4 Zombie Tokens and an FKZ, as well as 3 Bridge from Belows and a Cabal Therapy in my graveyard, can I sacrifice the FKZ to Therapy to create 3 more Zombie tokens and swing with seven 3/3 hasted Zombies for the win? I think this is the case, but I wanted to confirm it.

[Maveric78f]

No you can't. It's a triggered effect. The creatures coming into play after the FKZ triggered effect resolves will neither get +1/+1 nor gain haste.

[lordofthepit]

No you can't. It's a triggered effect. The creatures coming into play after the FKZ triggered effect resolves will neither get +1/+1 nor gain haste.

So the +1/+1 and haste bonus applies to creatures that are in play when the trigger resolves? It's not a continuous bonus applied for the duration of the turn?

[Maveric78f]

The creatures that are in play when the trigger resolves are granted 2 continuous effect bonus for the duration of the turn. The ones coming after were not granted the same bonus.

[lordofthepit]

The creatures that are in play when the trigger resolves are granted 2 continuous effect bonus for the duration of the turn. The ones coming after were not granted the same bonus.

Thanks a lot for the explanation.

[cdr]

418.3b. The set of objects that are affected by continuous effects from spells, activated abilities, and triggered abilities that modify the characteristics or change the controller of those objects is determined when that continuous effect begins. After that point, the set won't change. Note that these work differently than continuous effects from static abilities. Continuous effects that don't modify characteristics or change the controller of objects modify the rules of the game, so they can affect objects that weren't affected when the continuous effect began.

Example: An effect that reads "All white creatures get +1/+1 until end of turn" gives the bonus to all permanents that are white creatures when the spell or ability resolves-even if they change color later-and doesn't affect those that come into play or turn white afterward.

Example: An effect that reads "Prevent all damage creatures would deal this turn" doesn't modify any object's characteristics, so it's modifying the rules of the game. That means the effect will apply even to damage from creatures that weren't in play when the continuous effect began. It also affects damage from permanents that become creatures later in the turn.

[lordofthepit]

Thanks a lot for the explanation, CDR.