Legacy in San Francisco, Bay Area CA

[Octopusman]

Same New Place! EDH Friendly San Francisco Legacy

Date: 10/17 @ 2pm

Location: KFC Taco Bell, 2nd Floor
4150 Geary Blvd
(between 5th Ave & 6th Ave)
San Francisco, CA 94118
http://www.yelp.com/biz/taco-bell-kfc-san-francisco-5

We're trying to ramp up again by encouraging Legacy players to meet regularly in San Francisco. Ideally we'll have a sign-in sheet and if the group grows to a decent size, eventually we'll either create our own tournaments or petition certain stores to have more Legacy events.

It may take some time, but the goal is to bring the dispersed Legacy players in the Bay Area together so we can have a group and hopefully either host our own tourneys or have a store host one once they realize the demographic exists.
I should be able to recruit more people from my Wed draft group.

The more the merrier! Reply to this thread if you have questions and I will PM you with my email address.

Thanks,

[pi4meterftw]

Hi all,
Getting back into magic and I'm desperate to find tournaments or playcenters with a solid Legacy group of players.

Unfortunately, it looks like I'm on the wrong side of the country for the most part.
Can anyone suggest where I can go? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

I, too, am a legacy player in this area. I made a post about this a while ago.

[Dan Turner]

Hi all,
Getting back into magic and I'm desperate to find tournaments or playcenters with a solid Legacy group of players.

Unfortunately, it looks like I'm on the wrong side of the country for the most part.
Can anyone suggest where I can go? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

I grew up in Santa Cruz learned to play magic at Soquel High School and i know when I left there was a big magic following but damn that was 14 years ago LOL

[Aggro_zombies]

As nearly as I can tell, there's virtually no Legacy in the Bay Area.

There used to be stuff at Eudemonia, in Berkeley, but that was years ago. The interest in it died so they stopped supporting it.

EDIT: There's lots of Standard and Limited, if you're interested in those.

[mercenarybdu]

Hi all,
Getting back into magic and I'm desperate to find tournaments or playcenters with a solid Legacy group of players.

Unfortunately, it looks like I'm on the wrong side of the country for the most part.
Can anyone suggest where I can go? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

I tried to get a group together, but all attempts have failed (stopped since 2007 or so).

Eude used to hold events for a year, but then they stopped because that community was too dependent on one person to come up with 16 1.5 decks. After that person left, the events disappeared leaving only four people viable to play the format. LSV, his buddy Eric, an idiot named Will (he claimed every 9/10 decks had goyf in it), and another person.

There are a lot of small shops in the Bay Area (like Tim Gin's Cards and Comics Central, and A1).

The most popular spots for players (those who don't know any better) are Eudedomia in Berkeley (Alicabob plays there from time to time) and the currently expanded Superstars Store that became a Game Center (which we call Channelfireball on the internet), down in San Jose (I did go to Superstar's previous Santa Clara location, it was a shack).

Zac Hill, did ask me about it, when we first met. He was amazed that someone who's interested in Legacy, like myself, lived in a place dominated by strictly FNM and PTQ players, in addition to the usual Vintage and casual crowds.

So if you want to create a legacy group, your best bet is to try to negotiate with Superstars for events. They've already taken over all of Eudemonia's Eternal operation events, thanks to their space, resources, and the prize payouts they offer. Yet, Eudemonia is one of a few place around here that you could buy Duals at affordable rates. Although Superstars offers a dozen vintage packs at several different rates if you are willing to buy them (3 Kingdoms baby!!!!).

Make a move, and you'll realize how hard it was for me to establish a stable community in this area.

[Octopusman]

I, too, am a legacy player in this area. I made a post about this a while ago.

I looked up your post. I've never heard of "Who's on First" but I'll research them.
I didn't see any replies, but maybe we can get some attention now.
I'm sure that the Bay Area has players who want a Legacy scene.

There's a place in Berkeley called Eudemonia that has Legacy tournaments sometimes. I believe some people play at Card Kastle in Santa Clara, but I'm not sure if they play Legacy.
There was also a Legacy tourney in San Jose recently.

I'd really like to know if there is a consistent playgroup somewhere though... and preferably... tournaments that occur on more than a super random and scarce basis.

If anyone has experience organizing, I'm sure if it's publicized in the right places (i.e. here, etc) we could establish a pretty good community because as far as I can tell, there doesn't seem to be one... which is insane imo.

Show the Bay Area some love Legacy!

[Octopusman]

I tried to get a group together, but all attempts have failed (stopped since 2007 or so).

Eude used to hold events for a year, but then they stopped because that community was too dependent on one person to come up with 16 1.5 decks. After that person left, the events disappeared leaving only four people viable to play the format. LSV, his buddy Eric, an idiot named Will (he claimed every 9/10 decks had goyf in it), and another person.

There are a lot of small shops in the Bay Area (like Tim Gin's Cards and Comics Central, and A1).

The most popular spots for players (those who don't know any better) are Eudedomia in Berkeley (Alicabob plays there from time to time) and the currently expanded Superstars Store that became a Game Center (which we call Channelfireball on the internet), down in San Jose (I did go to Superstar's previous Santa Clara location, it was a shack).

Zac Hill, did ask me about it, when we first met. He was amazed that someone who's interested in Legacy, like myself, lived in a place dominated by strictly FNM and PTQ players, in addition to the usual Vintage and casual crowds.

So if you want to create a legacy group, your best bet is to try to negotiate with Superstars for events. They've already taken over all of Eudemonia's Eternal operation events, thanks to their space, resources, and the prize payouts they offer. Yet, Eudemonia is one of a few place around here that you could buy Duals at affordable rates. Although Superstars offers a dozen vintage packs at several different rates if you are willing to buy them (3 Kingdoms baby!!!!).

Make a move, and you'll realize how hard it was for me to establish a stable community in this area.

This post was really helpful.

I think working with Super Stars is the way to go. It's been years since I've interacted with them, but it appears they keep expanding and their playcenter sounds great.
I think if anyone can bring the players together it could be them. Hopefully the incentive for them would be that they can move a lot of expensive cards... selling T1.5 staples.

I hope this works. I'm tired of seeing all these awesome events on the other side of the nation...

[Aggro_zombies]

I looked up your post. I've never heard of "Who's on First" but I'll research them.
I didn't see any replies, but maybe we can get some attention now.
I'm sure that the Bay Area has players who want a Legacy scene.

There's a place in Berkeley called Eudemonia that has Legacy tournaments sometimes. I believe some people play at Card Kastle in Santa Clara, but I'm not sure if they play Legacy.
There was also a Legacy tourney in San Jose recently.

I'd really like to know if there is a consistent playgroup somewhere though... and preferably... tournaments that occur on more than a super random and scarce basis.

If anyone has experience organizing, I'm sure if it's publicized in the right places (i.e. here, etc) we could establish a pretty good community because as far as I can tell, there doesn't seem to be one... which is insane imo.

Show the Bay Area some love Legacy!
Who's on First is in Dublin, if I remember correctly.

Eudemonia won't be doing any more Legacy tournaments for the foreseeable future.

The recent tournament at Super Stars (or wherever it was) was a total flop, IIRC.

Sorry, but there's just no interest in Legacy around here. I would normally be interested in helping you, but I'm moving to Tucson for graduate school when I get back from Moorea. Most of the people I played Legacy with a few years ago are Berkeley students who are graduating, or have already done so.

You can try getting Eudemonia to run Legacy tournaments again, but the head judge there (Ryan) is strongly against it, so good luck with that one. If you want to do something regular, my impression is that weekends would be best because the places in San Jose and beyond aren't easily accessible without a car. Who's on First might be close to the Dublin BART station (never been there, no car), so it may also be an option, but I doubt they advertise very well considering the fact that I just heard of them recently, as opposed to Eudo, which is a big store.

EDIT: if you start something at Eudo, you'd better know good your Pirates matchup is.

I'm serious.

EDIT2: The fourth person mercenary referenced is me. LSV didn't come often for that, IIRC. But yeah, Sam supplied basically everyone with a deck, except for a couple of Goblins players. Now that he's gone, I'm the next best one, and I can only put together one or two extra decks.

Will is a retard who only plays Limited and casual, if I'm thinking of the same person you are.

[mercenarybdu]

@Aggro_zombies

ya, that is the same Will I am talking about. I showed him Relic of Progenitus as a good SB option, and he said it was "garbage", in my face.

Since i don't go to Eude often, i don't know all the ins and outs of that place, when it comes to people.

[Octopusman]

Who's on First is in Dublin, if I remember correctly.

Eudemonia won't be doing any more Legacy tournaments for the foreseeable future.

The recent tournament at Super Stars (or wherever it was) was a total flop, IIRC.

Sorry, but there's just no interest in Legacy around here. I would normally be interested in helping you, but I'm moving to Tucson for graduate school when I get back from Moorea. Most of the people I played Legacy with a few years ago are Berkeley students who are graduating, or have already done so.

You can try getting Eudemonia to run Legacy tournaments again, but the head judge there (Ryan) is strongly against it, so good luck with that one. If you want to do something regular, my impression is that weekends would be best because the places in San Jose and beyond aren't easily accessible without a car. Who's on First might be close to the Dublin BART station (never been there, no car), so it may also be an option, but I doubt they advertise very well considering the fact that I just heard of them recently, as opposed to Eudo, which is a big store.

EDIT: if you start something at Eudo, you'd better know good your Pirates matchup is.

I'm serious.

EDIT2: The fourth person mercenary referenced is me. LSV didn't come often for that, IIRC. But yeah, Sam supplied basically everyone with a deck, except for a couple of Goblins players. Now that he's gone, I'm the next best one, and I can only put together one or two extra decks.

Will is a retard who only plays Limited and casual, if I'm thinking of the same person you are.

I appreciate the information.
I'll be thinking. Good luck with school, but it's disheartening hearing that the guy replying to this thread is leaving the area lol. Shame about Super Stars too. I'll maybe try to start a dialogue with them and/or Eudemonia. I'd be willing to take Bart to Dublin as well for Who's on First. Maybe because they are new, they can generate some interest in the format.

Such a shame to see this format getting no love. It's the best the game has to offer imo.

I used to have Pirates. Haha that's funny. I still have love for Parallax Tide.

Anyway - maybe I'll update the thread if/when I get some more info.

Legacy players in the Bay Area pmsg me!

[Aggro_zombies]

I appreciate the information.
I'll be thinking. Good luck with school, but it's disheartening hearing that the guy replying to this thread is leaving the area lol. Shame about Super Stars too. I'll maybe try to start a dialogue with them and/or Eudemonia. I'd be willing to take Bart to Dublin as well for Who's on First. Maybe because they are new, they can generate some interest in the format.

Such a shame to see this format getting no love. It's the best the game has to offer imo.

I used to have Pirates. Haha that's funny. I still have love for Parallax Tide.

Anyway - maybe I'll update the thread if/when I get some more info.

Legacy players in the Bay Area pmsg me!
Don't even bother with Eudo. The head judge will just flat-out refuse you, because he believes (correctly) that the low projected attendance wouldn't be worth his time. Also, Eudo's prize payout is always in store credit, which sucks hardcore considering how inflated their card prices are.

It's as mercenary said. The Bay Area is basically the home of FNM and hard-core PTQ players. If there were a Legacy PTQ, there would be a lot of people who would show up, but they'd have to stop testing for Standard and Extended first. Well, most of them are pretentious dicks anyway.

For reference, here's the last tournament at Superstars, attended by ten players: http://www.superstarsgamecenter.com/?p=956. They only advertised on MTGS for it, so there might be better attendance if something was posted here. Still, you'll have an uphill battle convincing them after that.

Whatever you do, good luck. Most of the Legacy players in the Bay Area are either enthusiasts who post here, or people who might consider playing Legacy if the prize were good enough and it was at someplace close by.

[pi4meterftw]

I live in Pleasanton and Forbiddian 15 minutes away in San Ramon. We'd probably be able to play in legacy tournaments if they appear locally. If you can get a group of 5 other people (besides you, the OP, me and Forbiddian) to play legacy, say, at who's on first, I'd be down for that. We wouldn't travel like 45 minutes for the tournament though.

There used to be a tournament 5 minutes away from my house, but then all the participants went to college. I myself am a college student. Therefore, both Forbiddian and I would, at the very most, be able to play this summer.

EDIT: Oh, I also wonder if there are nearby extended tournaments.

[Octopusman]

I found a great group of folks in San Francisco.
They play many different formats. The yahoo group is sfmagic. I just went to my first draft last night (got a Maelstrom Pulse woot).

I'm trying to figure out who plays Legacy and then go from there.

Still interested to know if anyone has any secret Legacy spots around the Bay Area... hopefully get enough people together to get a tourney on a reg basis ideally...

[pi4meterftw]

Yeah wizards isn't supporting ext, and I'd rather just fish for a legacy group than an extended group, which is (in my experience) just as small, cause I already have a legacy deck. You should go to the legacy championships if you are interested in a legacy tournament.

My postcount is now the square of a prime.

[mercenarybdu]

Legacy is the kind of format that needs more media (although it is very diverse), one of my prime goals of attracting players to play the format.

Since Eudo has stopped featuring legacy events, and the bulk are far out of my reach, my options of filming has been sliced to FNM, PTQ, Vintage, and a few of the non-mainstream formats (such as paper momir).

FNMs, and PTQs, by my view are boring and dry. Everyone knows what the formats are, and they've been said the world over. Opposed to the other formats that rarely get any light.

I need more Legacy events (nearby), so I could add more media to the video counts on YouTube (fun games are alright, but I find that they don't attract as much attention as actual events).



@Aggro_zombies

I agree with most of the stuff said in your last post. Most of the FNM and PTQ crowd are usually both dick, idiots, or both.

I've actually sat in on their games, and took notes of what was going on.

My results nearly lined up with Ferret's claims. Every 6/10 were jerks, idiots, dicks, and people who don't any better than to toss more money at a problem than try to figure out what went wrong (as Ferret claimed in many of his articles). The majority weren't well educated about the ins and outs about Legacy. The bulk still had misconceptions about the eternal formats.

At some point during the Alara Reborn Prerelease (which I filmed at), a local who was pissed that he didn't win a free game against LSV, threw one of LSV's silver pens at his chest (might have caught it on film, but its either not there, or very quick).

I could also see why the region isn't pushing the format so hard. Of course it has to do with the player base, but as well as the media. If you look up on YouTube how many video on Legacy are posted, you are bound to only find a few pages. All the others have landfills full of videos to their name.

So it's also a media conflict, as you mentioned about how Superstars does advertising of their events.

SCG has already taken a small step into making it more of a format to pay attention to. Yet I just wished they would feature their kilo here.

[Artowis]

Who's on First in dublin is basically a pit. Even the majority of the locals stopped attending because the owner is a dick and just didn't care about the running of his own store. He just sat in the corner and played everquest or modo the whole time. If you do want to play there, BART is an easy way to get there. It's like a 15-20 minute walk from the station or 3-4 minute car-ride if you get somebody to pick you up.

Eudo is probably going to go out of business soon or require a major overhaul of what they want to be. They need to seriously consider expanding the computer gaming set-up they have, because they draw infinite on weekends with those while a lot of Magic players just leech the space they have without buying anything.

Superstars is the biggest and best around, but the eternal formats have taken a beating in attendance recently. Good luck on getting them to do Legacy ever again and even Vintage only still goes on because a decent number of the Berkley PTQ players, Dublin guys and LSV group actually enjoy Vintage.

Fact is, Legacy has no real base around here to speak of. The people are simply too spread out in general and nobody is going to make a concerted effort to draw them into one place when they could just run another Standard tournament in it's place. Hell a ALA Block 1k got more people than the last Legacy major tourney in the Bay Area.

[Octopusman]

Heh... well we've got to start somewhere I guess.

There are a few of us in this thread.

Here's what I'm envisioning:
A Bay Area, CA Legacy signup sheet. Basically, you just sign up if you want to play Legacy and where you're located with an email address.

Eventually, we could get a large list of signatures if we keep pointing people to the list over time. Once we have enough people, reach out to Super Stars or any place that has enough space and organize and event with a mass mailing of the people who signed up.

I might start a web page dedicated to this--
unless someone else beats me to it--

[pi4meterftw]

Heh... well we've got to start somewhere I guess.

There are a few of us in this thread.

Here's what I'm envisioning:
A Bay Area, CA Legacy signup sheet. Basically, you just sign up if you want to play Legacy and where you're located with an email address.

Eventually, we could get a large list of signatures if we keep pointing people to the list over time. Once we have enough people, reach out to Super Stars or any place that has enough space and organize and event with a mass mailing of the people who signed up.

I might start a web page dedicated to this--
unless someone else beats me to it--

Okay, I am interested in being on that list and considered and stuff, but being that I have interests in many other games, and I'm sure you guys do too, unless we all live reasonably close, it probably won't happen. It's just too much easier just to sign up for a tournament on MTGSal and here in parallel, and just be content to play twice a week, and then to play casually with friends. (Yes, I have let the few of them know, so I am not withholding their participation, so tell me when you get close to 8 people that can meet somewhere near Pleasanton/San Ramon.) But yeah, casual's not such a bad thing. It's not like everybody just brings a dumb deck to the kitchen table and slaps progenitus down on turn 10. When my friends say casual, they actually are aware of how legacy/extended is doing, and learn some basic strategies and bring reasonable decks like in extended, gifts slaver, and evagreen from 1.5 It's just casual because we don't jump on each other for rules/it's relaxed playing etc. Also, it requires just 2-4 people.

[Aggro_zombies]

Eudo is probably going to go out of business soon or require a major overhaul of what they want to be. They need to seriously consider expanding the computer gaming set-up they have, because they draw infinite on weekends with those while a lot of Magic players just leech the space they have without buying anything.
It's funny you mention that, because Eudo has been hemorrhaging drafters over the past couple months - they're all going to Games of Berkeley, where it's cheaper and the prize structure is better. Eudo used to have five or even six drafts a night, now you're lucky if you have three (two is the norm during the school year, but if it's a vacation period you might only have the FNM draft). Games of Berkeley is a dungeon, but you can't argue with cheapness.

I don't know what their profit margins are, but Eudo's seem really tight. Even if they increased the number of computers there, they don't have that big of a draw on weekdays or the afternoons, so you could argue that it would be increasing their operating costs without significantly affecting profits.

Well, whatever. It seems that the best thing would be to organize your own Legacy thing every now and then, if you're serious about it. The major stores in the Bay Area don't want to do something like that because even with good attendance, you'll net less money than a poorly attended Standard tournament. Just switch to MWS for Legacy and draft for paper Magic - 's been working for me for years now.

[Octopusman]

t's just too much easier just to sign up for a tournament on MTGSal and here in parallel, and just be content to play twice a week

I'm sorry, I'm really tired and having a hard time comprehending so I'm going to ask kindly for you to spell it out. Are you saying to watch for Legacy tournaments in the bay area on those sites and sign up when possible? And by play twice a week, what format are you talking about? If Legacy, where can you play twice a week?

I draft limited because I like to play magic, but if it were up to me I'd only play Legacy.

[Octopusman]

I'll update this post if I assemble some sort of sign up :)

With MWS can you find random opponents who are online for a certain format? I've hardly touched it. Honestly I care about paper magic the most. lol sucks.

I have to run MWS on my Parallels and it can get slow as hell when trying to launch a new game.

[mercenarybdu]

It's funny you mention that, because Eudo has been hemorrhaging drafters over the past couple months - they're all going to Games of Berkeley, where it's cheaper and the prize structure is better. Eudo used to have five or even six drafts a night, now you're lucky if you have three (two is the norm during the school year, but if it's a vacation period you might only have the FNM draft). Games of Berkeley is a dungeon, but you can't argue with cheapness.

I don't know what their profit margins are, but Eudo's seem really tight. Even if they increased the number of computers there, they don't have that big of a draw on weekdays or the afternoons, so you could argue that it would be increasing their operating costs without significantly affecting profits.

Well, whatever. It seems that the best thing would be to organize your own Legacy thing every now and then, if you're serious about it. The major stores in the Bay Area don't want to do something like that because even with good attendance, you'll net less money than a poorly attended Standard tournament. Just switch to MWS for Legacy and draft for paper Magic - 's been working for me for years now.

True, Eudo has started spiraling into the dumper ever since they got rid of their P9 Series events. I have used them a few times to acquire the Duals and a few pieces I didn't have (although it cost me a few extra bucks from time to time, I saved a lot of time in long haul).

I have noticed people going in and out of there, usually to play on the stationary computers. Most of their profits come from selling services and a few snacks over singles and drafts. I noticed that no one bothers to even follow their own "no outside food rule". Check the trash from time to time, and you will find outside food all the time in there. Check in on a few other days, and you will catch a few people, without them receiving a penalty.

Anyway, here is what the profit margin would look like for the store:

-computer and 360 services (42%)
-sealed product (2%)
-singles (3%)
-drafts (41%)
-snacks and drinks (5%)
-goods left behind (2%)
-other (that includes events outside draft, sales, and whatever else is being offered at the store) (5%)

...each time I have stopped by, I have paid close attention of what the consumers were doing at the front desk. Selling was one thing, what they bought is another. Computers and drafts tend to be on the top, while everything else followed. Which tipped me off on how they ran their operations.

Superstars has replaced them as the big store, since moving into their current location down in San Jose. More tables, better prize payouts, more materials to boot around, better offers. Not only that, Vintage Events that offer worthless money (wish they offered Gold Eagles instead).

Since Superstars hasn't given their Legacy Events the similar kinds of prize payouts as they do with their Vintage events, I could see why they wouldn't want to hold further ones. But if they figured out what the crowd really wanted, or what was worth the resources playing for, then they are bound to get more people through the door for Legacy.

Let's say a Gold Eagle was being offered as a prize, or a complete 10 card set of Revised Duals, with or without the proxies. Dump in the media to stir it up, presto: 20-30 people (most which will be first timers). The Gold Eagle should attract around 40-50 (since it is real money).

Pitty, Superstars still doesn't get it, yet.

Anyway, MWS would be an option, but then it takes the adrenaline out of playing with the actual cards in hand, and the part I like the most; getting into other people's faces (with computers, anyone can say curse words, pass around insults, and get away with it) (not cool).

[hyc8028]

I am on the same boat here. The last tournament at Superstar was bad timing because of my school final. It was also on short notice because I didn't know it until the Saturday before. Legacy is basically non-existence in SF and playing on MWS is missing the adrenaline of the game. For myself, I just want to get together with a group of legacy player, play the game I love, and make some new friends. We should start slow and create a legacy playgroup in bay area. If the playgroup gets bigger, then we can convince Superstar or Eudo to host legacy tournament. Better yet, we can host our own tournament. :tongue:

If anyone interested playing in SF, we should create a legacy playgroup. Now the question, who is with me?

[Octopusman]

I am on the same boat here. The last tournament at Superstar was bad timing because of my school final. It was also on short notice because I didn't know it until the Saturday before. Legacy is basically non-existence in SF and playing on MWS is missing the adrenaline of the game. For myself, I just want to get together with a group of legacy player, play the game I love, and make some new friends. We should start slow and create a legacy playgroup in bay area. If the playgroup gets bigger, then we can convince Superstar or Eudo to host legacy tournament. Better yet, we can host our own tournament. :tongue:

If anyone interested playing in SF, we should create a legacy playgroup. Now the question, who is with me?

I am with you!!!!

I can probably recruit some folks from my wed draft nights.

[Octopusman]

I don't want to have duplicate efforts, and to be honest, I'm not sure I have the flexibility in my schedule to be the group coordinator, but I wouldn't mind setting up a yahoo or google group tonight and then passing it over to someone else for control.

We'd have to make announcements on meetup.com, mtgsalvation, mtgthesource... even the generic wizards forum.


I also missed the superstars tourney because of bad timing. So it's not that there's no interest.
I'm certain that after some time and effort we can amass a good sized group.

[mercenarybdu]

Awesome. When the announcement is up, send me a PM.

I'll try to attend the first meeting.

To make it more meaningful, gather the signatures from all the people attending the first meeting, and all the others.

That way we could gather a more accurate estimate of how many people usually attend these meetings. Once that is charted, we could then present our claims to Superstars and negotiate for an event.

I'll be sure to bring a camcorder to record at least one match.

[Aggro_zombies]

I think I'll be in town on August 1st. If you do something then, I'll come if it's reasonably close to a BART station.

[hyc8028]

I can do the coordination if you guys want since I have nothing to do over the summer. :smile: I think we should start our play group with moderate amount of people first. Start off slow and build up the group overtime. Keep in mind that this might take some times to be what we envision as a group, so just be patient.

Another advantage of having a small group is that we can arrange meeting in starbuck, quickly, coffee shop, donut shop, etc at everyone convenience. For the first meeting, if we don't have a lot of people, location shouldn't be a problem.

So yea, those of you who interested to meet up and play, shoot me a pm with your name, email and the best time to meet up. The ideal time I am looking at now is either this coming weekend or July 4th weekend. I am ok on some weekday too depending if I have to work or not.

PS, if someone has MTGS account or other legacy MTG forum account or other friends who play magic and live in SF area, invite them to join. The more the better.


I am with you!!!!

I can probably recruit some folks from my wed draft nights.

Where can you draft on wednesday?

[Octopusman]

Gaining steam, cool.

pi4meterftw is in pleasanton.
Seems like the other posts are centered in SF.
There's a Dublin/Pleasanton Bart station so that could work for him.

August 1st is a Saturday. I'd like to at least try to get a playgroup together then or earlier since it seems like we have some folks who are down.

The signatures are a great idea. Keeping a log of unique players is important, as well as seeing who are repeats.

If we start an actual group, we can come up with whatever we want. For example, if we get enough regulars, even if we only meet bi-weekly or something, I could easily see fronting for prizes (myself or someone else) as motivation for having tournaments and attendance... as long as we're dreaming ;)


If someone knows of a venue, please speak up. I suppose I'll start poking around looking for a free place to host us. Restaurants could work because it can bring business (if they have room, which is rare in the city), otherwise a community recreation area is a possibility.

hashing out all the brainstorming on the forums.

picking the prizes sounds fun ;) Daddy needs Goyfs and Duals

[hyc8028]

Cash is even better. :cool: We can do bi-weekly drafting or other stuff. I want is get it going ASAP since it is almost July and 2 more months of summer left.

[Octopusman]

I can do the coordination if you guys want since I have nothing to do over the summer. :smile: I think we should start our play group with moderate amount of people first. Start off slow and build up the group overtime. Keep in mind that this might take some times to be what we envision as a group, so just be patient.

Another advantage of having a small group is that we can arrange meeting in starbuck, quickly, coffee shop, donut shop, etc at everyone convenience. For the first meeting, if we don't have a lot of people, location shouldn't be a problem.

So yea, those of you who interested to meet up and play, shoot me a pm with your name, email and the best time to meet up. The ideal time I am looking at now is either this coming weekend or July 4th weekend. I am ok on some weekday too depending if I have to work or not.

PS, if someone has MTGS account or other legacy MTG forum account or other friends who play magic and live in SF area, invite them to join. The more the better.



Where can you draft on wednesday?

I love you for stepping up to organize! I'll PM you for good measure.

When it comes to weekends, I have to say that Sunday afternoons->evening is my preferred day. Otherwise, Mondays or Wednesdays are good during the week.

I can post on 4 forums that I can think of. Here, mtgsalvation, official wizards forum, starcitygames. So we should definitely post in any community/Legacy (1.5)/events section of the above sites at the minimum.

Once things are more solid (date and location), if you want to have me post I'll do it.

Looks like there's some Legacy in our future in SF Bay after all :)

[Octopusman]

Oh yeah I forgot to mention the yahoo group is "sfmagic" and they draft Wednesdays at Kennedy's pub/Indian restaurant. If you want to join you should sign up online and get accepted so they are sure to have product. It's a decently sized group.

but need more Legacy ;)

[hyc8028]

I can get my cousin and one friend to join me, but they only play causal/limited. Shoot me a pm and we can talk more about it.

[mercenarybdu]

Wait Wait Wait Wait. Hold off on the prizes at this time until we have a sizable group of 30 or more.

We need to start with the basics. People, and their materials.

Then when we have gathered such a sizable group, we could expand even further with money and prizes.

I suggest real money like Gold Eagles over federal reserve notes. That way the prizes would be more meaningful rather than some stack of IOUs.

[hyc8028]

Wait Wait Wait Wait. Hold off on the prizes at this time until we have a sizable group of 30 or more.

We need to start with the basics. People, and their materials.

Then when we have gathered such a sizable group, we could expand even further with money and prizes.

I suggest real money like Gold Eagles over federal reserve notes. That way the prizes would be more meaningful rather than some stack of IOUs.

Do you want to meet up this week or next week? Me and Octopusman is planning to meet up this weekend or next week. PM me if you are interested.

[Damnosus]

I just moved from the east coast to san jose CA, and I must say that I really miss playing legacy. San Francisco is a little far for me, but if anyone know about anything closer I would totally be down.

[mercenarybdu]

Do you want to meet up this week or next week? Me and Octopusman is planning to meet up this weekend or next week. PM me if you are interested.

Where are you people going to meet?

[hyc8028]

Where are you people going to meet?

We are thinking of somewhere in the city, possibly downtown.

[mercenarybdu]

We are thinking of somewhere in the city, possibly downtown.

You could try Tim Gin's place/Cards and Comics Central on Geary and 19th Avenue (not street).

Tim knows what we would be talking about, he has tables in the back, and is more intelligent than other card shop owners I know.

He has a small stock of singles to sell as well as a few boosters (this includes Arabian Night Boosters at average rates).

[hyc8028]

You could try Tim Gin's place/Cards and Comics Central on Geary and 19th Avenue (not street).

Tim knows what we would be talking about, he has tables in the back, and is more intelligent than other card shop owners I know.

He has a small stock of singles to sell as well as a few boosters (this includes Arabian Night Boosters at average rates).

Well, from my past experience, card and comics central are not very good. I know that card store for 10+ years. They don't have table open anymore unless there is a tournament going on. They use their table area as a storage area. I remember when the conflux prerelease happened, they have to set up the table along the hall way and they didn't even have a judge. Their customer service isn't the best either. They have been very rude to me before. We just need a place to sit down and play, so anywhere at our convenience would work. Downtown is good since it is accessible my muni. Octopusman lives in nob hill and that little far for him because he has no car.

[Octopusman]

Geary and 19th works. The #1/#38/#2 goes out there and it's right by my GF's place.
They have like 1 and a half tables in the back haha.

Otherwise downtown should work. There's a very nice food court kind of area that has plenty of seating outside on the top. It's between Montgomery/Kearney and Post/Sutter. Bring a playmat.
It's like a block from the Bart, muni station.
keep me posted.


Edit: Awesome Cafe there. You go up escalators. Then there are passageways that go from the top to the rooftop area.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=fountain+cafe,+san+francisco&fb=1&split=1&gl=us&cid=0,0,15348703385018617789&ei=MQZBSpiKGI3asQOF6cTzCA&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=image&resnum=1

[pi4meterftw]

Geary and 19th works. The #1/#38/#2 goes out there and it's right by my GF's place.
They have like 1 and a half tables in the back haha.

Otherwise downtown should work. There's a very nice food court kind of area that has plenty of seating outside on the top. It's between Montgomery/Kearney and Post/Sutter. Bring a playmat.
It's like a block from the Bart, muni station.
keep me posted.


Edit: Awesome Cafe there. You go up escalators. Then there are passageways that go from the top to the rooftop area.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=fountain+cafe,+san+francisco&fb=1&split=1&gl=us&cid=0,0,15348703385018617789&ei=MQZBSpiKGI3asQOF6cTzCA&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=image&resnum=1

If the group rotates meeting locations, I'll join in whenever it's near Pleasanton. If I decide to go to Champs, maybe I'll join in also when it's in SF, but for now I probably won't.

[hyc8028]

My vote is downtown because of the food. You guys wanna meet up this week or next? We gotta set a date, location and time ASAP.

EDIT: Bring playmat is a good idea. I also have some 20 side die, counters, etc. MTG supplies, so no worries.

[mercenarybdu]

Geary and 19th works. The #1/#38/#2 goes out there and it's right by my GF's place.
They have like 1 and a half tables in the back haha.

Otherwise downtown should work. There's a very nice food court kind of area that has plenty of seating outside on the top. It's between Montgomery/Kearney and Post/Sutter. Bring a playmat.
It's like a block from the Bart, muni station.
keep me posted.


Edit: Awesome Cafe there. You go up escalators. Then there are passageways that go from the top to the rooftop area.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=fountain+cafe,+san+francisco&fb=1&split=1&gl=us&cid=0,0,15348703385018617789&ei=MQZBSpiKGI3asQOF6cTzCA&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=image&resnum=1

Sure, if that works, if it is alright for the people who come in from the train stations.

As long as it is not an open sky roof. Might go to that location this weekend, if my schedule and attitude permits me. Pretty uptight at this time.

[Octopusman]

sigh - it's open roof

It's a small hike or a short bus ride from caltrain. Not sure if that's too complicated for people.

It is like a block from bart though like I said.

idc really. Someone come up with a place with adequate table room and isn't open air and we'll go there.

[hyc8028]

I think open roof is fine as long as it is not too sunny. So how about we meet sunday @ 2?

[mercenarybdu]

I think open roof is fine as long as it is not too sunny. So how about we meet sunday @ 2?

definite?

[hyc8028]

definite?

Pretty much. Can you make it?

[mercenarybdu]

Pretty much. Can you make it?

Sure. For a few games (to keep the pressure levels to a maximum), some video, and live discussions.

I'll be sure to bring a notebook to begin the signature gatherings on a consistent basis. Then if anyone likes, we could go to the public copying machine to make copies of the first record.

[hyc8028]

Sure. For a few games (to keep the pressure levels to a maximum), some video, and live discussions.

I'll be sure to bring a notebook to begin the signature gatherings on a consistent basis. Then if anyone likes, we could go to the public copying machine to make copies of the first record.

Cool, PM me your phone number and stuff. We are probably meet up in that cafe Octopusman was talking about, but we can change location once we meet up. So far we only have 3 people, but I believe it will grow as time goes.

I ll make a new thread about it.

EDIT: http://www.fountaincafe.net/
They might not be open on sunday, so we might have to find another location.

I suggest Cafe Venue.
http://www.yelp.com/biz/cafe-venue-san-francisco#hrid:fWcx8NaO1qd5uUlpi4Bt-g/src:search/query:cafe

It is one block away from powell station and they got pretty nice review.

If cafe venue also close, my back up plan is to go to Westfield San Francisco Centre food court. Their food court is big and clean

http://www.yelp.com/biz/westfield-san-francisco-centre-san-francisco

[Octopusman]

Fountain does look closed on Sunday. Bummer.

I've made a post saying we're meeting this sunday @ 2 at Cafe Venue on mtgsalvation.


Some of us are tired of the seemingly lack of a scene in the San Francisco Bay Area in regards to Legacy.
Certain shops have welcomed the format but they've mostly come and gone.

We're trying to ramp up again by encouraging Legacy players to meet regularly in San Francisco. Ideally we'll have a

sign-in sheet and if the group grows to a decent size, eventually we'll either create our own tournaments or

petition certain stores to have more Legacy events.

If our group gets too large, we'll change venues. For now, we're planning on meeting at the Cafe Venue, San

Francisco CA.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/cafe-venue-san-francisco#hrid:fWcx8NaO1qd5uUlpi4Bt-g/src:search/query:cafe

Close to Bart and Caltrain.

Our first meeting is this Sunday: 6/28/09 @ 2pm

It may take some time, but the goal is to bring the dispersed Legacy players in the Bay Area together so we can have

a group and hopefully either host our own tourneys or have a store host one once they realize the demographic

exists.

The more the merrier! Reply to this thread if you have questions and I will PM you with my email address.

Thanks,


Edit: Although Westfield sounds great too. Keep an eye on your backpacks though >.>
;) ;)

[Octopusman]

I've made the post here, mtgsalvation, wizards official community board, and starcitygames general forum.

I'm going to update the OP here now

[pi4meterftw]

Are there any players in the bay area, specifically Pleasanton/Dublin/San Ramon/Livermore who live closer to Pleasanton/Dublin and want to form another group there? I'm willing to drive to any location like ~10 minutes away, but not much more. That is, I do value playing magic IRL, but the IRL value to me is finite, and not worth the drive all the way to SF (About 45 minutes)

[hyc8028]

I've made the post here, mtgsalvation, wizards official community board, and starcitygames general forum.

I'm going to update the OP here now

Cool, I think we got 3 so far. I hope more show up on sunday.

[mercenarybdu]

Cool, I think we got 3 so far. I hope more show up on sunday.

That's a start. Let's meet at the Food Court to keep things simple.

Then we'll need an rally point marker to rally the people coming out of the closet (if they show up).

[Octopusman]

Ok - enough back and forth. I've already made posts in 4 forums about meeting at Cafe Venue. I'll update them again if you want to meet at Westfield food court, but then that has to be it -- it's getting closer to Sunday and I want to give people enough notice to make a decision if they can come or not and where it is.

Official: Westfield Mall, 2pm. If you have questions, PM me.

http://westfield.com/sanfrancisco/directions/driving-direction-details/

[hyc8028]

Ok - enough back and forth. I've already made posts in 4 forums about meeting at Cafe Venue. I'll update them again if you want to meet at Westfield food court, but then that has to be it -- it's getting closer to Sunday and I want to give people enough notice to make a decision if they can come or not and where it is.

Official: Westfield Mall, 2pm. If you have questions, PM me.

http://westfield.com/sanfrancisco/directions/driving-direction-details/

Be sure you get everyone phone number. I need yours also. PM me.

EDIT: there might be a lot of people on sunday, so we are better off to set a meeting place inside the mall. I think there is still a Jamba Juice in the food court. Why don't we all meet there?

Location of Jamba: http://westfield.com/sanfrancisco/find/detail/store?retailer=29140&category=2040

[mercenarybdu]

Ok - enough back and forth. I've already made posts in 4 forums about meeting at Cafe Venue. I'll update them again if you want to meet at Westfield food court, but then that has to be it -- it's getting closer to Sunday and I want to give people enough notice to make a decision if they can come or not and where it is.

Official: Westfield Mall, 2pm. If you have questions, PM me.

http://westfield.com/sanfrancisco/directions/driving-direction-details/

Roger that. Makes life easier for everyone.

[Gambit]

I live here in SF and attend the weekly drafts at Kennedy's when I can. There isn't really many legacy players there. I moved up here and hoped to find a legacy scene, but I only found a couple players. I've been playing a lot more vintage lately as at least there is some support. What I did when I was trying to start legacy up in Santa Barbara was put a dual land up for each time we met, $3 entry fee, infy proxies, winner gets the dual. We got about 8-10 people, so it wasn't exactly steller, but the idea was to get people trying it without having to buy the expensive stuff. Also, dual prices have gone up, it wasn't so bad when I was getting them for $15-$18. I may come play some legacy with you guys at some point, but can't make it this weekend. I will be at Kennedy's this wednesday though, I'll be the guy with the dog.

[Octopusman]

Hm I didn't know sfmagic met at kennedy's on the weekend.

We might have a smaller turn out because of the pride parade as someone pointed out on the mtgsalvation forum.

At least our numbers will probably increase week over week I'm hoping.

Have a prize and proxies are nice if we could have enough people to make it function. Anything to draw more Legacy players out.

See ya tomorrow @ 2, westfield mall, food court new san francisco soup co seating. I'll be wearing a Blue mana symbol T-shirt.

[mercenarybdu]

Hm I didn't know sfmagic met at kennedy's on the weekend.

We might have a smaller turn out because of the pride parade as someone pointed out on the mtgsalvation forum.

At least our numbers will probably increase week over week I'm hoping.

Have a prize and proxies are nice if we could have enough people to make it function. Anything to draw more Legacy players out.

See ya tomorrow @ 2, westfield mall, food court new san francisco soup co seating. I'll be wearing a Blue mana symbol T-shirt.

i walked around the food court around 1-3 time and couldn't find you. What happened?

[pi4meterftw]

How was the turnout? If you guys start regularly getting at least 30 people, I could come all the way to SF (45 min drive at least.) If not, I still won't come unless it moves closer.

[mercenarybdu]

How was the turnout? If you guys start regularly getting at least 30 people, I could come all the way to SF (45 min drive at least.) If not, I still won't come unless it moves closer.

Westfield wasn't a grand idea afterall.

I couldn't find anyone within the food court. All I ended up doing is take pictures for a group of teens, watch two shoplifters get caught red handed, followed by lots of walking around looking for the group.

I gave up, went to Borders to read one book, then do one last sweep before leaving the complex.

Of course this is the first meeting. Things will improve over time. Just hope its not at Westfield again.

[pi4meterftw]

Well then, may I suggest moving it closer? I will certainly come if it's within a 10 minute drive of my house, and I also live near Forbiddian, who could probably be talked into playing. Also, with no guarantees, I believe some of my friends are coming back to the magic scene to play casual with decks that are technically legacy legal. Casual for them doesn't mean horridly bad, but rather just slightly outdated stuff so that the money investment is kept to a minimum.

[hyc8028]

Really? I met Peter right on the spot @ 2. He was wearing Island T-shirt in front of San Francisco Soup Co. It was only me and him, but I had fun since I haven't play legacy for a long time. mercenarybdu, I thought you and Peter exchange number?

It was only the first meeting. Couple people were interested, but couldn't make it. As for me and peter, we played some legacy, then move on to some casual game. I tried my extended mono white against his legacy fish, but I was on the losing end.

I think we probably going to have the second meeting in a week or 2. I think it might be different location this time.

[hyc8028]

Well then, may I suggest moving it closer? I will certainly come if it's within a 10 minute drive of my house, and I also live near Forbiddian, who could probably be talked into playing. Also, with no guarantees, I believe some of my friends are coming back to the magic scene to play casual with decks that are technically legacy legal. Casual for them doesn't mean horridly bad, but rather just slightly outdated stuff so that the money investment is kept to a minimum.

I don't mind moving it closer to compensate you guys if your location is close to a BART station.

[whiteshepherdman]

Does anyone who plays legacy also go to superstars down in downtown San Jose to play mtg?

[hyc8028]

Does anyone who plays legacy also go to superstars down in downtown San Jose to play mtg?

I do once in a while.

[mercenarybdu]

Really? I met Peter right on the spot @ 2. He was wearing Island T-shirt in front of San Francisco Soup Co. It was only me and him, but I had fun since I haven't play legacy for a long time. mercenarybdu, I thought you and Peter exchange number?

It was only the first meeting. Couple people were interested, but couldn't make it. As for me and peter, we played some legacy, then move on to some casual game. I tried my extended mono white against his legacy fish, but I was on the losing end.

I think we probably going to have the second meeting in a week or 2. I think it might be different location this time.

I don't have a number. Usually I coordinate everything through text in advance.

Since Westfield is usually crowded on the weekend (especially during events), I try to avoid that area as much as possible for how massive the place is.

Where would we meet next time? i don't have time for the next four weekends to come.

[hyc8028]

I don't have a number. Usually I coordinate everything through text in advance.

Since Westfield is usually crowded on the weekend (especially during events), I try to avoid that area as much as possible for how massive the place is.

Where would we meet next time? i don't have time for the next four weekends to come.

We don't know yet. I am going to do some scouting on wednesday or thursday. Ideal location right now is probably close card & comic near Geary and 19th. There are some coffee shop in that area. Yea, if you coming next time, PM me and I can give you my number just in case you get lost.

[mercenarybdu]

We don't know yet. I am going to do some scouting on wednesday or thursday. Ideal location right now is probably close card & comic near Geary and 19th. There are some coffee shop in that area. Yea, if you coming next time, PM me and I can give you my number just in case you get lost.

Any others?

CCC was the location I originally proposed since it isn't really crowded on any non-event day.

Then as our current number is still bellow 30, that is still a viable location until we reach 30+++ players.

I'll check my next few weekends of schedules to find some space.

[hyc8028]

Any others?

CCC was the location I originally proposed since it isn't really crowded on any non-event day.

Then as our current number is still bellow 30, that is still a viable location until we reach 30+++ players.

I'll check my next few weekends of schedules to find some space.

But the problem is CCC don't have any table open unless they have event and they use the table area as a storage room. It would be hard to fit 10 people in there already. I am trying to find a place that not crowded and there are enough seat for at least 5 people. Anywhere on clement or geary would be ideal since it would be convenient for those who drive and take MUNI. I got couple places in my mind already, but I ll check them out tomorrow. If we don't meet next week, then we probably not going to meet until 3rd weekend of July because of M10 prelease.

[Octopusman]

Keep me posted. Definitely want to play some more Legacy!

Fun!

[mercenarybdu]

But the problem is CCC don't have any table open unless they have event and they use the table area as a storage room. It would be hard to fit 10 people in there already. I am trying to find a place that not crowded and there are enough seat for at least 5 people. Anywhere on clement or geary would be ideal since it would be convenient for those who drive and take MUNI. I got couple places in my mind already, but I ll check them out tomorrow. If we don't meet next week, then we probably not going to meet until 3rd weekend of July because of M10 prelease.

I've asked Tim before for space, and he has given the players space for 20 on a non-event day.

He does not open up that space, unless it is definite that lots of players are really going to use the space to play cards.

In the past, he usually had two tables open. Because back then, around 20 people would show up to his shop everyday between 2002-mid2005 to play cards (usual YGO)(when there was still a decent MTG crowd).

After the numbers declined to less than ten, he moved it back to one open table.

If the numbers are brought back up on a constant basis, Tim will be sure to keep two tables open again whenever there is a meeting of that magnitude.

[hyc8028]

Ok, peeps, I just got back from scouting. Apparently there are couple suitable place for us to meet next time.

1. Belly Burger
5740 Geary Ave, San Francisco, Ca 94121 (Between 21st and 22nd Ave)

2. Javacat Coffee
5549 Geary Ave, San Francisco, Ca 94121 (Corner of 20th Ave)

3 Poeh Bagel
5420 Geary Ave, San Francisco, Ca 94121 (right next to CCC, between 18th and 19th)

5. Golden Donut
5401 Geary Ave, San Francisco, Ca 94121 (Corner of 20th Ave)

Location wise, Poeh is the best since it is next to CCC. Personally, I prefer Belly Burger because burger and free refill FTW, especially if we meet around lunch time. What do you guys think?

[mercenarybdu]

Ok, peeps, I just got back from scouting. Apparently there are couple suitable place for us to meet next time.

1. Belly Burger
5740 Geary Ave, San Francisco, Ca 94121 (Between 21st and 22nd Ave)

2. Javacat Coffee
5549 Geary Ave, San Francisco, Ca 94121 (Corner of 20th Ave)

3 Poeh Bagel
5420 Geary Ave, San Francisco, Ca 94121 (right next to CCC, between 18th and 19th)

5. Golden Donut
5401 Geary Ave, San Francisco, Ca 94121 (Corner of 20th Ave)

Location wise, Poeh is the best since it is next to CCC. Personally, I prefer Belly Burger because burger and free refill FTW, especially if we meet around lunch time. What do you guys think?

Awesome. All we need to do is keep a close eye on our stuff, buy some food and we're good.

Now, we need to decide on a day.

[hyc8028]

Awesome. All we need to do is keep a close eye on our stuff, buy some food and we're good.

Now, we need to decide on a day.

This Sunday, 1 p.m @ Belly?

[mercenarybdu]

This Sunday, 1 p.m @ Belly?

I have another paper due before that date, unfortunately.

How about during the M10 weekend? I have no deadlines, and my Saturday is open in a day's radius.

[hyc8028]

I have another paper due before that date, unfortunately.

How about during the M10 weekend? I have no deadlines, and my Saturday is open in a day's radius.

I can't do Saturday because I have work. M10 weekend might work if you guys go on prerelease on saturday and we meet on sunday.

[pi4meterftw]

I have another paper due before that date, unfortunately.

How about during the M10 weekend? I have no deadlines, and my Saturday is open in a day's radius.

What is a day's radius? Do you live in some weird metric space?

[mercenarybdu]

I can't do Saturday because I have work. M10 weekend might work if you guys go on prerelease on saturday and we meet on sunday.

Sure. So should it be next store from CCC? There won't be any space at CCC the day of the event.

Then as long as we buy a few things from next store, we could use the space for as long as we like. If not then, we always have starbucks across the street from the location. I've played there a few times with buddies, and they don't mind.

[Octopusman]

Keep me posted. Sunday afternoons still work best.
I still want to keep this in San Francisco - not sure how convenient those locations are for people that would have to come into the city as opposed to downtown, but I'm down to try it.

cool :)

[hyc8028]

Keep me posted. Sunday afternoons still work best.
I still want to keep this in San Francisco - not sure how convenient those locations are for people that would have to come into the city as opposed to downtown, but I'm down to try it.

cool :)

I think meeting near CCC is better because people won't get lost and more convenient to those who drives. For now, we are set. Our second meeting is two weeks from now, Sunday 7/12/09 (M10 Prerelease Weekend), 1 p.m @ Poeh Bagel.

Poeh Bagel
5420 Geary Ave, San Francisco, Ca 94121 (right next to CCC, between 18th and 19th)

If you got friends, bring them in. We are not only play legacy, but we play casual also. Those of you think you are coming, PM me or Octopusman, so that we can exchange number and we can notify you guys just in case we have any last second change. I think we will try to pass around a sign up sheet during the meeting to get all your contact info.

Octopusman, can you please update the OP?

[Octopusman]

OP updated with new location.

I asked around tonight and I should be able to get some more people from my Wed draft group.
Post and post and post each week until the group grows in size. :)

[mercenarybdu]

OP updated with new location.

I asked around tonight and I should be able to get some more people from my Wed draft group.
Post and post and post each week until the group grows in size. :)

Excellent.

[Octopusman]

I'm pretty happy with the turnout today! I had to take a break and when I came back some people had dispersed (this was after 4 hrs of Legacy).
Thread will get updated when we figure out when to get together again (I'm liking every other week).
It's likely I won't be able to make it two weeks from now but I hope you guys keep up the momentum!

Fun!

Thanks,

[hyc8028]

There is a Legacy tournament in Berkley on 25th, so we decided to postpone our next meeting to August 2nd. Same time, same place as our last meeting.

:: NEXT MEETING UPDATED ::

Our next Meeting will be on August 2nd @ 1 pm. The more the merrier!

Poeh Bagel 5420 Geary Ave, San Francisco, Ca 94121 (right next to CCC, between 18th and 19th)

[Aggro_zombies]

There is a Legacy tournament in Berkley on 25th, so we decided to postpone our next meeting to August 2nd. Same time, same place as our last meeting.

:: NEXT MEETING UPDATED ::

Our next Meeting will be on August 2nd @ 1 pm. The more the merrier!

Poeh Bagel 5420 Geary Ave, San Francisco, Ca 94121 (right next to CCC, between 18th and 19th)
I can come to this. What's the closest BART station?

Let me know how the Berkeley tournament goes. I'll still be in Moorea then, although that's the day I fly out.

[hyc8028]

I can come to this. What's the closest BART station?

Let me know how the Berkeley tournament goes. I'll still be in Moorea then, although that's the day I fly out.

You get out at Powell Station, then you take #38 on Geary street. The bus stop is right across union square. Take 38 and get off @ 20th Ave.

[hyc8028]

I went by CCC today. Poeh Bagel is no more, so we will have to change location. The next closest location is Golden Donuts.

Date: Sunday, 8/2/2009
Time: 2 pm
Location: Golden Donuts
Address: 5401 Geary Ave, San Francisco, Ca 94121 (Corner of 18th Ave, across CCC)

Octopusman, can you update the OP?

[Octopusman]

location/time updated

[whiteshepherdman]

Does someone want to play some legacy at Superstars in downtown San Jose or at a store around Santa Clara?

[hyc8028]

Does someone want to play some legacy at Superstars in downtown San Jose or at a store around Santa Clara?

I do stop by there once in a while. I might be going again in the next couple weeks.

Today, there will be a legacy tourney in Berkley. I ll try to take notes and write a tournament report.

[boris13]

Must be a gay tournament ahahahahahahahaha.

[hyc8028]

It was fun today. Thanks you all for participate and support legacy. I am going to write up the report in an hour or so. Mono Red Goblin got 1st. Tempo thresh 2nd and burn 3rd. However, Alex and Peter were the winner today. Haha.

[whiteshepherdman]

Hey, what store was it? could you give me the address and send me a copy of your report? I play landstill and fetchland tendrils and my brother plays sligh and goblins so we could probably go and add to the mix

[hyc8028]

Hey, what store was it? could you give me the address and send me a copy of your report? I play landstill and fetchland tendrils and my brother plays sligh and goblins so we could probably go and add to the mix

Collector's Realm 3
2566 Telegraph Ave
Berkeley, CA 94704

Sorry, I didn't have time yesterday to write it up and possibly won't have time today, but I promise the report will be up by Monday latest. If you guys join us, we will have a really diverse meta.

[hyc8028]

Report is done. My note wasn't that great. Some of the stuff could be wrong. correct me if needed.

http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?p=365201#post365201

[whiteshepherdman]

Hey, props on the report and great job on the finish, yeah we'll be joining you but my brother's still working on getting the cards for his sligh mana base you might not see us for a while, I've copied down the address though so that i dont forget

[hyc8028]

Hey, props on the report and great job on the finish, yeah we'll be joining you but my brother's still working on getting the cards for his sligh mana base you might not see us for a while, I've copied down the address though so that i dont forget

Cool, can't wait to play with you guys.

[Aggro_zombies]

Is the thing on Sunday still official? If so, what's the cost and will anyone be bringing EDH along?

[hyc8028]

Is the thing on Sunday still official? If so, what's the cost and will anyone be bringing EDH along?

No cost, just playgroup. We are still on this Sunday. Just a reminder that our locations and time HAS changed from our last meeting. Please refer to original post.

I am in the process of making my first EDH. I am still missing 40 cards, so possibly I will be done in a month. Most of the people attended last time only played legacy, but other people like me play other formats too. Although we are legacy playgroup, any magic players are welcomed. You can bring your causal/EDH/trades/Standard/Extended with you also.

See you Sunday!

[Octopusman]

I'm hoping to make it and to trade for items I'm missing for my Rafiq EDH.
;)

Looking for UL Berserk...

[hyc8028]

Last meeting, turnout wasn't that good. Only 3 people show up. Another issue is the venues. Poeh is gone and golden donuts is too small. I have two choices for you guys to pick that close to CCC.

1. Belly Burger (Geary & 21st)
I played there couple times with my friends. They have an empty store after lunch hour and their burger is pretty good.

2. KFC 2nd floor (corner of Geary & 6th)
I never been to there, so I don't know the set up.

If you guys want to meet up in Sunset district, I got KFC on Irving & 20th that I assure you we will have plenty room to play. Also, there is a starbuck/bunch of cafe on Irving as well.

Another option is we can meet up at Gamescape (Divisadero & Page). I heard they have table at the back of the store. I have never been to there before.

http://www.gamescapesf.net/index.html

As for the low attendance last time, I think the solution to that is to add another format in our group that others can easily get access to. I think EDH is the perfect format. Everyone has a EDH deck and it is very causal format. It will help to get people to show up and bring the attendance back up and we can promote legacy.

If you have any ideas or comments, please speak up.

[Fistandantilus]

Does someone want to play some legacy at Superstars in downtown San Jose or at a store around Santa Clara?

I am interested in playing Legacy in San Jose or Santa Clara.

[hyc8028]

I am thinking of setting our next meeting on August 23rd @ 2 pm. I haven't decide on the venues yet, so please keep the ideas coming. I want to know what you guys prefer.

[whiteshepherdman]

I'm down for san jose or santa clara, but i can only do weekends

[Octopusman]

OP updated

[hyc8028]

We are still on for tomorrow. Check OP for updated time and location.

[dearleader]

A Bay Area Legacy scene! I haven't been playing too much magic as of late, but this is exciting. I'm in Berkeley and I know a few people at school who play legacy casually, but are still pretty good players (eg: my friend plays a VERY budget version of D&T quite proficiently). I also see people with Legacy decks in Eudemonia every time I go there, but there never seems to be enough interest to get a scene there.

There was some talk of C&J's (in Newark) trying to get a legacy scene happening, but I don't know what's become of it.

Also, wow, collector's realm is right next to where I live. I'll have to drop by next time they have a tourney.

[Octopusman]

I love the location that we're at now @ 6th & Geary in San Francisco.

We have lots of privacy and space on the 2nd floor of the Taco Bell/KFC. I'd definitely like to see us continue at this location and hopefully grow from here.

I had a lot of fun yesteryday!
I'll update the OP again when we have the next meeting date. Try to make it and bring friends - the more the merrier. We are probably going to be welcoming EDH players too as a way to get more people to show up.

[hyc8028]

I love the location too. It is so much better than golden donut. Parking lot is available for those who drive and free refill is nice to have.

Our next meeting will be either 9/6/09 (labor day weekend) or 9/13/09. At this point, 13th is more likely. We will keep everyone posted.

[hyc8028]

Legacy tourney in 3 weeks

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=182013

[Octopusman]

updated the OP

[Octopusman]

updated the date 9/20

[Octopusman]

new date scheduled

[Burr]

Is this still going on? Did you guys succeed? looking to play in some legacy tournies in the sf bay area..

[hyc8028]

Is this still going on? Did you guys succeed? looking to play in some legacy tournies in the sf bay area..

It gotten somewhat better. We have about 6 to 7 people in our group now. Superstar in San Jose in having monthly legacy event and out group try to be there every time to support the format. If you are interested to join us to play, check out the our FB page at my sig. If you have more question, feel free to pm me. We can talk more about it.

[somethingdotdotdot]

I apologize if this is a necro, but is this group still going? I've been trying to find people to play with around the bay area (I'm currently in berkeley and there aren't any tournaments close by) but haven't had too much success (everyone seems to play type 2).

[luckme10]

Eudemonia stopped holding legacy events several months back. Closest place to play legacy is Superstars in San Jose.

[Cynicath]

Superstars has Thursday night Legacy events. They're 10 proxy (and thus unsanctioned). I haven't been there the last several weeks but it's a decent scene. I just moved from L.A., which has a KILLER Legacy scene so the state of affairs up here makes me sad. Feel free to let me know if you guys get something else going, I'd definitely be interested in participating.

[hyc8028]

We just had a small event from Eudo 2 weeks ago. They said they will try to hold monthly legacy too.

Superstars has all the legacy event in the Bay. You have 10 proxy Thursday Legacy, then you have monthly sanctioned legacy. By the way, this Sunday at noon Superstars is going to have the monthly legacy if you guys are interested. Me and couple group members will be there also.

Here is our facebook group page: http://www.facebook.com/groups/141451792556930/

We do all the communication of the group there.