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Peter_Rotten
07-07-2009, 08:34 AM
Here's a simple QQ thread. I saw this one Belgium dude's title, "Suffering from lack of RL Tournaments," and said to myself, I'm totally in the same boat. And now I'm wondering how many more of use are out there? Who else is currently suffering from a lack of real life tournies? Who here is too far away from a Legacy scene to actively participate?

I, for one, sure am.

lavafrogg
07-07-2009, 08:37 AM
Stuck in Florida with Finn and noone else.

Skeggi
07-07-2009, 08:41 AM
We only have about 2-3 tournaments a month here. Oh wait, that's not a lack of tournaments, that's an abundance. :tongue:

Dan Turner
07-07-2009, 08:49 AM
The only Legacy event even close to me in the last year was the Grand Prix Trials in Springfield, Mo. back in March. Other then that we get some standard and ext in Fayetteville or Springfield but both are about 75 miles from me.

Peter_Rotten
07-07-2009, 09:02 AM
Millenium Games is about 1/2 hour - 40 minutes away. But they don't hold Legacy anymore.

Play the Game Change the Name is about 1 1/2 from me. When I'm really jonesing for a game, I can drive there.

JeroenC
07-07-2009, 09:33 AM
I'm that dude. :(
If anyone can prove me wrong somewhere in Flanders (no way in the world am I going to Amsterdam)(and preferably not too far, getting around isn't all that easy for me), feel free to do so. Participating in some real life tournaments would probably help to keep my interest in Legacy up- something I find hard from time to time.

Maveric78f
07-07-2009, 09:33 AM
I'm in Paris. We might have an average of one tourney per week in a radius of 20 kilometers, 2 every week in a radius of 200 kilometers. That's a lot, but I have a rate of 4-6 tourneys a year, mainly because I prefer to play soccer on saturdays and my wife wants my sundays.

In France, we have BOMs (3 up to now, the last gathered 474 players http://www.deckcheck.net/event.php?event=Bazaar+of+Moxen+3+-+Legacy+Champs) and a Legacy championship: every performance to legacy events are logged and the best players are allowed to participate to this championship. So yeah, the french legacy community rocks.

citanul
07-07-2009, 10:02 AM
I'm that dude. :(
If anyone can prove me wrong somewhere in Flanders (no way in the world am I going to Amsterdam)(and preferably not too far, getting around isn't all that easy for me), feel free to do so. Participating in some real life tournaments would probably help to keep my interest in Legacy up- something I find hard from time to time.


We have tournaments in Hasselt, Mol, Gent, Oostende and Antwerp. Multiple a year per lcoation. We even have 4 tournaments that are organised together by a bigger community where you can earn bye's for the grand tournament of the year, full set of duals as first prize.

Sure it isn't as much as the Netherlands but I prefer a small amount of big tournaments compared to a large amount of small tournaments.

As for transportation, if you live anywhere near Outpost Gent or Antwerp, there are people there that play Legacy and travel by car, they'd be happy to take an extra person with them.

P.S.: If you live near Outpost Antwerp, every first Tuesday of the month they organise a very small tournament (10 players top), that's tonight!

On-topic: I think the Legacy scene here in Belgium is fine as it is. Compared to the old days it has grown a lot and seems to keep on growing. I think the biggest increase was caused by the awesomeness that is Legacy, maybe trying to convince some Standard players works wonders?

Peter_Rotten
07-07-2009, 10:09 AM
In the spirit of this thread, I updated the calendar. Wow - there are a TON of events coming up. None close to me, but still... lots of events.

Zlatzman
07-07-2009, 10:36 AM
One tournament each year here, norwegian legacy championships. Shame it's a seven hour drive to get there.

Some casual-legacy though, but sadly I'm forced to play more vintage instead.

Skeggi
07-07-2009, 10:36 AM
Legacy is gaining in populairity. More and more people are selling their T2 collections to dive into the eternal bliss of Legacy. If you have a decent Magic community at your hometown, perhaps you can organise an event that will encourage Legacy.

rockout
07-07-2009, 10:37 AM
I sadly drive an hour or more to any tournament I go to and I have 5 weekends in a row of tournaments I'm probably going to be at, including GP Boston.

emidln
07-07-2009, 10:40 AM
I sadly drive an hour or more to any tournament I go to and I have 5 weekends in a row of tournaments I'm probably going to be at, including GP Boston.

I drove 18 hours to my last legacy event (granted, it was to play both days at SCG Boston). South of Chicago, IL sucks for eternal magic. The local Legacy events are dominated by whatever jank I happen to take (for the record, I've won an event with slightly modified mirage block cad bloom).

quicksilver
07-07-2009, 10:41 AM
We don't have any magic in virginia anymore, we have to drive out of state for any.

rockout
07-07-2009, 10:45 AM
You virginias log some serious miles.

Peter_Rotten
07-07-2009, 10:59 AM
You virginias log some serious miles.

Yeah - whenever I bitch about driving a few hours, I try to forget the Virginians who will pratically LIVE in a car for days just for a chance to win a few Duals.

The Wes
07-07-2009, 11:04 AM
Still no legacy action that I can find around Albany. Sad that is a 2+ hour drive to good tourneys.

Gaius Darkfire
07-07-2009, 11:05 AM
Die-Hard's are a 45-hour-ish drive from us and are weekly (though unfortunately we dont go, it's at least there), and his big event and Hadley's are coming up for the closer stores. There are also the Ellis-Con legacy tournament on November 14 and the side events at Boston, so we are certainly not as deprived as those out in the boonies. It's not too bad, and fortunately it's also not completely overshadowed by ptq's and such right now.

Zach Tartell
07-07-2009, 11:09 AM
I was actually considering telling you (Matt) that you should give me your duals and shit, 'cause I actually play and you just talk about it and WOW.

Maybe you should make it out once my house is setteled - you can shit in our ridiculously nicely appointed bathrooms and catch two days of nerding (three if you make it FNM/Saturday/Sunday).

I miss you being around.

Ectoplasm
07-07-2009, 11:10 AM
I'm in Paris. We might have an average of one tourney per week in a radius of 20 kilometers, 2 every week in a radius of 200 kilometers. That's a lot, but I have a rate of 4-6 tourneys a year, mainly because I prefer to play soccer on saturdays and my wife wants my sundays.

In France, we have BOMs (3 up to now, the last gathered 474 players http://www.deckcheck.net/event.php?event=Bazaar+of+Moxen+3+-+Legacy+Champs) and a Legacy championship: every performance to legacy events are logged and the best players are allowed to participate to this championship. So yeah, the french legacy community rocks.

Slightly off-topic perhaps, but http://www.benelegacy.nl is a great place to keep yourself up-to-date about upcoming tourneys in NL and Belgium.

quicksilver
07-07-2009, 11:12 AM
Yeah - whenever I bitch about driving a few hours, I try to forget the Virginians who will pratically LIVE in a car for days just for a chance to win a few Duals.

Like that time we drove 3 weeks for a magic tournament and literally did live in our car. Man that was a blast.

JeroenC
07-07-2009, 11:33 AM
We have tournaments in Hasselt, Mol, Gent, Oostende and Antwerp. Multiple a year per lcoation. We even have 4 tournaments that are organised together by a bigger community where you can earn bye's for the grand tournament of the year, full set of duals as first prize.

Yep, trying to compete in those. I'm mostly bitching about the lack of regular small tournaments. Though it's also mostly my fault, with annoying parents I have a hard time getting around to places so I pretty much just need to get lucky in both timing and location to get to a tournament.


Slightly off-topic perhaps, but http://www.benelegacy.nl is a great place to keep yourself up-to-date about upcoming tourneys in NL and Belgium.

Well, I usually felt that forum was mostly NL-centered, but I might be wrong/it might have changed. Might have to check back in on a regular basis.

mossivo1986
07-07-2009, 11:58 AM
I live in Lansing Michigan and without the local scenes I think I would die. Infotunately they are all an hour to an hour and a half each direction, which obviously means theres absolutely nothing here. It makes me so sad.

ilovejess2
07-07-2009, 12:49 PM
Very little in London. We are we really lacking behind other European capitals which all seem to have healthy Legacy environments, Paris is one good example as mentioned above. At the minute we can play 8 man single elimination pods once a month at the Games Club. (The place to play competitive Magic in London - www.thegamesclub.com but they are more Standard/Competitve Format orientated) A few of us are trying to get things moving a bit as there is a lot of interest in the format just no one channeling it.

Dark_Shakuras
07-07-2009, 01:15 PM
Got one in So Cal we are tryng to foster. Now that GameEmpire is dying (which was a 2 hours drive) nothing beside that within 5 hours.

Sims
07-07-2009, 01:33 PM
Still no legacy action that I can find around Albany. Sad that is a 2+ hour drive to good tourneys.

Closest that I am aware of is Comic Depot, Sundays at 1 except on Pre-Release days. Closer to me than any of the places that had been holding Legacy, but I work a lot of Sundays and cannot always make it.

Greenfield Center, route 9N in a stewarts plaza, bout a 10-15 minute drive from I-87 exit 15.

suprafan386
07-07-2009, 01:37 PM
Would have to drive 2 hours to NOVA to play or if SCG's ever has another local in the area aka 1-2 hours depending on location. In Charlottesville we have the problem of people actually owning the cards to play but will not build any decks because they only really care about standard or our local version of highlander(one on one matches vintage banned list can not be played but most own a copy of the card in your deck). Only time I really get to play is when my friend James comes down from nova to go back to school.

ClearSkies
07-07-2009, 02:04 PM
Same here. There are quite a few Type 2 and draft tournaments through.
There are nothing for eternal format.

There used to be a Legacy tournament around, but we usually have a hard time starting because we get like 4 people. Then the shop just closed down. I think the general disinterest in eternal formats is a problem around here.

The few times there actually enough people to start one back then, it was because of little kids bringing their own non-tiered Type 2 decks. :frown:

coraz86
07-07-2009, 02:38 PM
Erie's all FNM; we have one store that gets 20+ people who are decent players and one store with a handful of noobs every Friday. There's less than a dozen people here who even have Legacy stuff and care to use it, and we all work different schedules, so the weekly Legacy that one store used to have only ever got six or eight.

There's a store in Brocton, NY called Triple Crown Cards that runs Legacy every Saturday, but again, the almighty buck keeps getting in the way. The guy who runs the place is awesome, so I'd encourage any of you NY'ers who live withing shouting distance of Brocton to check it out. The players leave something to be desired in terms of both card pools and skill levels, but it's a nice little store, and it has a bangin' sub shop across the street.

Amon Amarth
07-07-2009, 04:13 PM
There's nothing in Corvallis but it's not too bad because I'm only about and hour-ish away from Portland. Unfortunately, I don't have my new car yet. :(

Octopusman
07-07-2009, 04:48 PM
Bay Area CA is dead to Legacy, but we're trying to change that - see the thread for meeting up this Sunday.

FYI - it takes about 5/6 hours to drive to SoCal meh.

GGoober
07-07-2009, 05:02 PM
For those people in houston looking for Legacy scene, check out www.asgardgames.net. We meet every Saturday/Sunday with a showing of 8-16 people. Our group is growing bigger, and to keep the hopes of all you guys alone out there up, note that our group began with 3 people, 2 friends playing Dreadstill and Thresh against each other an me being the lonely Legacy player who plays MWS and Stax against his casual players who accidentally stumbles upon the 2 dudes. Talked, played and hooked up a scene in the next few weeks when people dropped by the store.

Sometimes you need some luck, but you HAVE to play at the store, so if someone who used to be an old school player, will catch an eye on that Dark Ritual + Hippy or FOW, and inquire about the format, to which you answer that it's the format that's worth playing since it's the only format other than Vintage that's worth investing and not losing money.

Legacy is getting more popularity compared to when I joined it 2 years ago. You can tell that from tournaments, SCG events etc. Good job and keep the dream alive!

TrialByFire
07-07-2009, 08:48 PM
I drove 18 hours to my last legacy event (granted, it was to play both days at SCG Boston). South of Chicago, IL sucks for eternal magic. The local Legacy events are dominated by whatever jank I happen to take (for the record, I've won an event with slightly modified mirage block cad bloom).

Holy crap. That was you? I was sitting next to you in round 2 of the Legact tourney, I made a comment about how long you drove. Nice meeting you man

Afro
07-07-2009, 09:04 PM
I sold off pretty much all of cards for this very reason. It is hard to keep the passion when the nearest big legacy tournament is 3 hours away in Cuse. Sure the company is great up there I just don't want to be driving home on the Thruway at 1am after a long tournament as that pretty much kills your whole weekend.

PunkRocker1134
07-07-2009, 09:10 PM
Type 2 and Draft is all that seems to be around Boulder.

Esper3k
07-07-2009, 09:19 PM
I'm part of the Houston crowd and am glad we've been having our weekly tournaments (sometimes people get together during the week to just play).

It's been pretty nuts, we went from pretty much 0 Legacy tournaments for years in the city to having one every week!

My buddy and I had always been reading about Legacy and theorizing/playing against each other... but to finally actually get to play? Incredible!

TheAardvark
07-07-2009, 10:38 PM
We used to have a monthly Legacy tourney, but interest in the format simply died about a year and a half ago. I ostensibly run all of our events as far as scheduling, etc. and I had to fight some resistance to introducing it into our schedule, but once I did, it became pretty popular. In fact, our largest attendance ever for one of our local events (non-store supported, just my friends and I doing everything) was for Legacy like 2 and a half years ago. Attendance for it dropped off a bit and then completely died, although there were multiple factors at work in that:

1. The format, on a local level, was stagnant beyond belief. Example: one guy played the same deck for literally 13 straight torunaments.

2. Some of the people who supported it the most more or less quit playing the game or moved away.

3. The new faces didn't really have the cards to support competitive decks.

So, after a year of pretty much never getting enough people to sanction the monthly events, I removed it from the schedule. I even removed Extended, which was our most popular format for most of the time from when we first started running our weekly events 4+ years ago; just not enough people have the cards for it to run it monthly anymore. Now all we do is Standard and EDH.

Ah well.

andrew77
07-07-2009, 11:18 PM
Used to have tournies in my town, but they got cancelled because the store owner thought they weren't fun for the casual crowd even though the turnout was always solid. The onyl other tournies in the area are 45 minutes away and usually only get 3-6 peopel so it's not worth the drive.

elof
07-08-2009, 01:56 AM
I only play about 3-4 turnies per year. We have a few big 'cons where they have 1 legacy-tournament. Other than that I go on 1-2 other smaller tournament. It's really lame and I try to play as much on mws as I can because there isn't a single other magicplayer (not counting "let's throw Lightning Bolts at eachother"-players) in this town. It's horribad.

Aggro_zombies
07-08-2009, 04:39 AM
I haven't been to an IRL Legacy tournament since just after Lorwyn came out, so that's...what, two years?

I've forgotten what it's like to play Legacy with real cards. ;_;

Elfrago
07-08-2009, 05:00 AM
I can reach montly tournaments in Rome in about an hour of car ride , but for some other reason in my life I really can't go there right now. Hopefully everything will be sorted out around september. And no matter what I will attend Worlds side events :)

Valdez
07-08-2009, 05:14 AM
well, i could play al least one legacy tourney every weekend, 2 of them with 60+ participants, one withe about 30 ülayers and i cna choose between a few smaller ones on sat, plus a small weekly legacy tourney on thu in our local store.
in addition i can reach the big belgium/ned tourneys in less than 2 hours by car.

but the lack of european legacy tourneys sucks badly...

god i'm a lucky bastard...

Ectoplasm
07-08-2009, 06:49 AM
but the lack of european legacy tourneys sucks badly..

Lack of? :tongue: I think we have loads of tourneys!

Sanguine Voyeur
07-08-2009, 09:24 AM
Closest to me is ~1-2.5 hours away, once a month and I have little means of getting there.

Belgareth
07-08-2009, 09:37 AM
The nearest legacy action to me now is about 3 counties away or in a seperate country (scotland) depending on wether i go north or south.
I would love to see more Europe/UK events nearby.

herbig
07-08-2009, 10:03 AM
*coughs*

Cabal-kun
07-08-2009, 11:48 AM
Rochester NY seems to have gone desolate.

And I finally have the funds to start assembling decks, too. Bugger.

Brad Herbig
07-08-2009, 12:58 PM
There is nothing around me for Legacy, so I've been convincing my friends to start making Legacy decks, so at least I have people to play with. And I figure if enough of us have decks, tournaments might start popping up (or we can just have them ourselves).

Bardo
07-08-2009, 03:15 PM
The Portland scene has dried up terribly. It sucks. Once a week I think about pestering local card shop owners to host something--but I'm lazy, forgetful and don't feel like doing the organizing.

Where's Volt these days?

QQ indeed.

clavio
07-08-2009, 03:45 PM
Magic is dead.

Pinder
07-08-2009, 03:47 PM
The Portland scene has dried up terribly. It sucks. Once a week I think about pestering local card shop owners to host something--but I'm lazy, forgetful and don't feel like doing the organizing.

Where's Volt these days?

QQ indeed.

I think Volt stopped organizing after Vande-whats-his-faced ripped him off and won't answer his calls. Or Don's calls.

Jak
07-08-2009, 04:00 PM
I think Volt stopped organizing after Vande-whats-his-faced ripped him off and won't answer his calls. Or Don's calls.

How did he rip him off?

frogboy
07-08-2009, 04:04 PM
The Portland scene has dried up terribly. It sucks. Once a week I think about pestering local card shop owners to host something--but I'm lazy, forgetful and don't feel like doing the organizing.

Where's Volt these days?

QQ indeed.

It's apparently randomly picking up again. Otherworlds (Alternate Universe) had over sixteen people last Sunday, plus a ton of EDH.

Pinder
07-08-2009, 04:26 PM
How did he rip him off?

Apparently Volt fronted Duals or Fetches or somesuch, and Mike never paid him back.

Bardo
07-08-2009, 05:12 PM
It's apparently randomly picking up again. Otherworlds (Alternate Universe) had over sixteen people last Sunday, plus a ton of EDH.
What the hell? Maybe someone can post a damn announcement about it? Hell, I'd be thrilled for an 8-man tourney.

Bardo, Scourge of the 8-man Tournament

(If you remove the "Tournament" from my title, it sounds dirty.)

Wereodile
07-08-2009, 05:27 PM
Here in Kingston On Ca we just had out first Legacy event ever! We can drive about 2 hours to Oshawa and play at "When Worlds Collide" There's always over 20 people and they usually have a Mox as a prize.

All in all worth the drive but a regular local event would be pretty sweet.

Esper3k
07-08-2009, 08:25 PM
GenCon this year will be my first really big tournament. I hope to get a lot of valuable experience there.


What the hell? Maybe someone can post a damn announcement about it? Hell, I'd be thrilled for an 8-man tourney.

Bardo, Scourge of the 8-man Tournament

(If you remove the "Tournament" from my title, it sounds dirty.)

That reminds me of that episode of Family Guy where Peter went gay, then stopped being gay in the middle of an... 8-man...

TheAardvark
07-08-2009, 08:38 PM
(If you remove the "Tournament" from my title, it sounds dirty.)

And frighteningly accurate...

Jak
07-09-2009, 03:51 AM
What the hell? Maybe someone can post a damn announcement about it? Hell, I'd be thrilled for an 8-man tourney.

Bardo, Scourge of the 8-man Tournament

(If you remove the "Tournament" from my title, it sounds dirty.)

Yeah! I tried driving and finding this one place to play at but never did so I gave up. I was hoping there were still weeklies that I could come to. Can there be like a thread posted with info?

chris_acheson
07-10-2009, 02:53 PM
Millenium Games is about 1/2 hour - 40 minutes away. But they don't hold Legacy anymore.

Legacy at Millennium has been back on for a few weeks now. They're doing $5 entry, everyone gets a pack, 4 rounds, top 4 (or 3-1 and up?) get another 4 packs. I've gone twice so far, and there were at least 10 people each time.

jimmerz213
07-10-2009, 03:01 PM
Legacy at Millennium has been back on for a few weeks now. They're doing $5 entry, everyone gets a pack, 4 rounds, top 4 (or 3-1 and up?) get another 4 packs. I've gone twice so far, and there were at least 10 people each time.

When are they doing that?

chris_acheson
07-10-2009, 11:57 PM
When are they doing that?

Same as before, noon on Sundays.

jimmerz213
07-11-2009, 01:15 AM
Same as before, noon on Sundays.

Their website lists something about some commons only format, is that what this is or am I just missing it entirely?

chris_acheson
07-11-2009, 03:26 AM
Their website lists something about some commons only format, is that what this is or am I just missing it entirely?

That'd be pauper, which happens after the legacy tournament. Their site still lists the $2 legacy tournaments that they used to run, and they haven't updated it with new info.

blueneverfails
07-11-2009, 11:30 AM
Where I live(cleveland/akron ohio area) my shop(sportz nutz) has a legacy tourny every wednesday and friday, and usually on wednesday we always have atleast 20 and fridays between 10 and 20. And then toys time forgot on saturday, soo Legacy is everywhere around me. If any of you live in ohio or are visiting gimme me a buzz and come down, we have a very very very very competitive format. we have a group that actually drives like 2 hours every wednesday from columbus to play with us.

coraz86
07-11-2009, 05:03 PM
Where I live(cleveland/akron ohio area) my shop(sportz nutz) has a legacy tourny every wednesday and friday, and usually on wednesday we always have atleast 20 and fridays between 10 and 20. And then toys time forgot on saturday, soo Legacy is everywhere around me. If any of you live in ohio or are visiting gimme me a buzz and come down, we have a very very very very competitive format. we have a group that actually drives like 2 hours every wednesday from columbus to play with us.

Could you post a street address with ZIP code so interested parties can Google-map it?

blueneverfails
07-12-2009, 03:44 AM
broad street 44281

Muradin
07-12-2009, 06:28 AM
We've got a monthly Legacy tournament about 1,5 hours away from us in Munich and a monthly tournament about 3,5 hours away from us in Nuremberg. Then we still got a monthly legacy tournament also about 1,5 hours away from us in Kempten. The only problem is that most of the time all of them are on the same Saturday and therefore it's not possible to play more than perhaps a maximum of 2 if we get really lucky. I actually thought our tournaments here suck (and they do in comparison to the northern German ones that count more than 70 participants regularly) with only about 20 to 30 people coming to each but apparently we are having rather good opportunities to play magic in comparison to some here.

Still my enthusiasm for the game and especially the legacy format is dropping because once we had weekly! big tournaments in Munich but those times are over. I fear that magic is really declining as more and more people here stop playing when they start to work and there are simply no younger ones to fill the gap (only in Nuremburg, where the store owner is the most competent and enterprising man in the magic business I've seen so far.)

What I feel this game is missing are far-sighted people who are investing work, time and money in the future to keep this game alive as I've seen the best example of a flourishing magic scene getting ruined by the stupid behavior of a store owner and it only got partly revived because some people started organizing tournaments again because they really like this game. We’ll really need more people like this to keep this game alive in the future.