Legendary Mountain?

[LostButSeeking]

I played Dragon Stompy at a tournament yesterday, and it was me and Elves?! in the finals. We split the prizes, but decided to play it out for fun. In the second game, I had Magus of the Moon out when he asked if he could play his second gaea's cradle. My instinct said no, but as we'd already split the prizes and it didn't matter, I let him play it and then proceeded to crush him with hellbent dragons and Arc Sloggers.

So, what happens to legendary lands under moon effects. Can you play two of them? For all I know, a legendary land under a moon effect becomes Legendary Land--Mountain and then dies immediately.

[KrzyMoose]

a legendary land under a moon effect becomes Legendary Land--Mountain and then dies immediately.

That is correct. It's the same thing as with the Artifact Lands - they are still Artifacts.

[cdr]

He can play a second Cradle, but it will invoke the Legend rule. Blood Moon changes the Cradles' land subtype, but both the Legendary supertype and the name are retained - the two ingredients for the Legend rule.


305.7. If an effect changes a land's subtype to one or more of the basic land types, the land no longer has its old land type. It loses all abilities generated from its rules text and its old land types, and it gains the appropriate mana ability for each new basic land type. Note that this doesn't remove any abilities that were granted to the land by other effects. Changing a land's subtype doesn't add or remove any card types (such as creature) or supertypes (such as basic, legendary, and snow) the land may have. If a land gains one or more land types in addition to its own, it keeps its land types and rules text, and it gains the new land types and mana abilities.


704.5k. If two or more legendary permanents with the same name are on the battlefield, all are put into their owners' graveyards. This is called the "legend rule." If only one of those permanents is legendary, this rule doesn't apply.

[RoddyVR]

That is correct. It's the same thing as with the Artifact Lands - they are still Artifacts.

Wow, realy? The legendary thing makes sense to me, this doesnt.

Would then a dryad arbor become a creature land - mountain? would it still be a 1/1?

Now that i think about would a factory activated in response to moon coming into play be a 2/2 artifact creature land - mountain till end of turn?

[KrzyMoose]

Would then a dryad arbor become a creature land - mountain? would it still be a 1/1?

Yep. It's a 1/1 Creature Land - Mountain Dryad. However, it is no longer Green. It also taps for Red mana.


Now that i think about would a factory activated in response to moon coming into play be a 2/2 artifact creature land - mountain till end of turn?

Yep.

[cdr]

Wow, realy? The legendary thing makes sense to me, this doesnt.

Would then a dryad arbor become a creature land - mountain? would it still be a 1/1?

Now that i think about would a factory activated in response to moon coming into play be a 2/2 artifact creature land - mountain till end of turn?

Yes and yes.

http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?p=310186

[herbig]

can I land Land Grant for Dryad Arbor with Moon guy in play?

[KrzyMoose]

can I land Land Grant for Dryad Arbor with Moon guy in play?

Yes, you still can. The Moon effects only affect lands in play.

[cdr]

Lands only exist on the battlefield, in fact. Land Grant gets land cards, not lands.

[LostButSeeking]

Thanks guys. Like I said, that's what felt natural, but as we saw with some of the subsequent questions, the rules can sometimes be counter intuitive =)

[Malchar]

Perhaps this hasn't been said, but a simple way to remember how Blood Moon works is that it basically just adds the subtype Mountain and removes the abilities of the land (and gives it "T: Add R to your mana pool.")

[Valtrix]

That's technically not quite right. It replaces any land subyptes with the type mountain:


212.6h. If an effect changes a land's subtype to one or more of the basic land types, the land no longer has its old land type. It loses all abilities generated from its rules text and its old land types, and it gains the appropriate mana ability for each new basic land type. Note that this doesn't remove any abilities that were granted to the land by other effects. Changing a land's subtype doesn't add or remove any card types (such as creature) or supertypes (such as basic, legendary, and snow) the land may have. If a land gains one or more land types in addition to its own, it keeps its land types and rules text, and it gains the new land types and mana abilities.

[Koby]

Interesting effect:

Activating Thawing Glacier in response to Blood Moon -- it will lose Substance at EOT, but won't trigger until Blood Moon leaves play.

[cdr]

Interesting effect:

Activating Thawing Glacier in response to Blood Moon -- it will lose Substance at EOT, but won't trigger until Blood Moon leaves play.

Substance no longer exists. Thawing Glaciers is now a delayed triggered ability, and will trigger like normal no matter what.


Thawing Glaciers
Land
Thawing Glaciers enters the battlefield tapped.
1, T: Search your library for a basic land card, put that card onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle your library. Return Thawing Glaciers to its owner's hand at the beginning of the next cleanup step.