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BKclassic
08-10-2009, 02:46 AM
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/251



http://www.wizards.com/mtg/images/daily/arcana/251_tallplains1_rsx4u51r9s.jpg http://www.wizards.com/mtg/images/daily/arcana/251_tallplains2_rsx4u51r9s.jpg

I'm going to go ahead and say these new basic lands look pretty god damned awesome. Way better than the blocky Unhinged ones.


Just sayin'.

JeroenC
08-10-2009, 03:37 AM
I'm not a particular fan of these lands, but if they keep this up forever, I should be able to finally find one art I really like on a land I really like. This is nomnomnom at any rate.

eq.firemind
08-10-2009, 03:48 AM
Theese basics look awesome, but
a) I like Plains to be Plains, no flying stones or pyramids or other crap, but that's just personal taste...
b) Need moar John Avon!
So I'll keep Unhinged...

JeroenC
08-10-2009, 03:54 AM
I love the one with the flying stones, I just don't really like the bottom left part of it, can't seem to discern what the hell that is.

MTG-Fan
08-10-2009, 04:20 AM
Coldsnap Snow-Covered lands FTW.

Arctic_Slicer
08-10-2009, 04:21 AM
They are vast improvement over the godawful giant mana symbol basics they have been giving us since 6th edition. If this becomes the norm I wont have to keep using Ice Age basics for all of my decks.

Nessaja
08-10-2009, 04:22 AM
unhinged has a prettier frame IMO, better art too.

Arctic_Slicer
08-10-2009, 04:24 AM
unhinged has a prettier frame IMO, better art too.

The Unhinged ones were too boxey, I like the roundness of these frames better though I think Unglued tops them both in terms of frame aesthetics.

Zach Tartell
08-10-2009, 04:25 AM
Coldsnap Snow-Covered lands FTW.

German Ice-Age Snow-Covered lands FTW.

Taurelin
08-10-2009, 04:32 AM
b) Need moar John Avon!



This.

eq.firemind
08-10-2009, 04:43 AM
...Also, extended art Serra Avenger = PimP Godness and Unhinged Plains are absoulutely insane in the same deck.

JeroenC
08-10-2009, 04:57 AM
German Ice-Age Snow-Covered lands FTW.

I really don't know why everyone likes snowcovered basics so very much. But yeah, IA snowcovered>Coldsnap snowcovered.

Ectoplasm
08-10-2009, 05:02 AM
Pretty good lookin' though I prefer my APAC lands

Elfrago
08-10-2009, 05:19 AM
Very nice. I don't really like the sci-fi illustrations but I think they will keep making lands like these even in future sets and hopefully we can get a few with a good ol' fantasy image.

kicks_422
08-10-2009, 05:25 AM
Jawdrop.

overseer1234
08-10-2009, 05:29 AM
Those look so fucking sexy.

But the thing that bothers me is that the way they put it you'll only find these lands in booster packs, and the lands in the intro packs might just contain the reggular ugly giant mana symbol one's

pw709
08-10-2009, 05:41 AM
Just another slice of the sellout pie. :frown:

Skeggi
08-10-2009, 05:57 AM
Just another slice of the sellout pie. :frown:
Whiner. Don't forget they're a commercial company and in it to make money. They make more money by making things the larger part of the community wants. That's not selling out, that's life.

On topic: I like the new style of borders here, it's very nice.

pw709
08-10-2009, 06:03 AM
But I don't want what I want!

And I'll be damned if I deserve it!


Whiner. Don't forget they're a commercial company and in it to make money. They make more money by making things the larger part of the community wants. That's not selling out, that's life.

On topic: I like the new style of borders here, it's very nice.

Frenger
08-10-2009, 06:20 AM
To bad the art is ugly as hell because the frame had potential. Unglued and Unhinged are both better than these though, mainly because they have good art.

eq.firemind
08-10-2009, 06:43 AM
the frame had potential.
This is personal taste. I, for example, don't like it at all. Unhinged = the best frame and the best art for me. So I don't bother buying uneeded crap and will continue to play with Unh foils...

Valtrix
08-10-2009, 07:55 AM
Man, now I have to rare draft and land draft? That sucks.

Skeggi
08-10-2009, 08:24 AM
You can't basic land-draft...

Valtrix
08-10-2009, 08:26 AM
I can see the store I go to sending around the lands in packs here like they were foil lands, since they'll be only openable in packs :P

cdr
08-10-2009, 08:56 AM
Not just in packs, but also in the land sleeves distributed to TOs for sealed and draft events. They won't be *that* rare, but I can definitely see them being popular - TOs had enough problems with people taking land as it was.

Dan Turner
08-10-2009, 09:22 AM
I think now I have to buy Zendikar Fatpacks just for the lands it almost makes it worth it that you no longer get a full novel out of them.

socialite
08-10-2009, 09:45 AM
These things are fucking terrible.

DrJones
08-10-2009, 09:47 AM
Oh god! I can't understand why can they have so many wonderful artists, but can't find a writer that actually deserves that title. Not only the novels, but also their comics are atrocious and seizure inducing. :(

Nihil Credo
08-10-2009, 10:13 AM
That's because MaRo's "restrictions breed creativity" mantra only applies to certain forms of art, and literature unfortunately isn't one of them.

Bryant Cook
08-10-2009, 10:22 AM
I like them, they're cool in a design-y sort of way.

thesilentpyro
08-10-2009, 10:37 AM
I'm reserving judgement until I see the rest of the lands--I like the card design, but I don't particularly care for the art, as it seems too plane-specific and not color-specific. It's cool looking and all, but just doesn't say WHITE to me.

Kinda makes me mad I spent $25 buying those Unhinged Islands a week ago, though.

jimmerz213
08-10-2009, 10:48 AM
Im curious to see how they look foiled too, I really like how the Unhinged ones look. Hopefully the rest of the art is good though, I like the two they prieviewed but I feel the same "not real plains-ey" like other people.

AngryTroll
08-10-2009, 11:21 AM
Will someone please post the pictures in here? I can't get to the Wizards boards from work (or where I'm staying!)!

Dan Turner
08-10-2009, 11:28 AM
Will someone please post the pictures in here? I can't get to the Wizards boards from work (or where I'm staying!)!

They are posted in the first part of the thread


I like the idea behind them now if we get some good arts in them that would be nice.

AngryTroll
08-10-2009, 11:32 AM
They are posted in the first part of the thread


I can't get to the Wizards boards from work (or where I'm staying!)!

The link is posted. I was asking for someone to post the picture directly.

Hikeeba!
08-10-2009, 11:33 AM
Man, I don't really like the pyramid looking one. But I love the other one with the floating stones. Though I do wish it was a little more generic fantasy while still having a magical feeling to it.

Wrath_Of_Houlding
08-10-2009, 11:34 AM
I like them...I really wish they would be in the booster packs though, since they're insisting on shoving a basic land in there anyway.

thesilentpyro
08-10-2009, 11:40 AM
Boosters are where you get them; they aren't in the Intro Packs, but they are in boosters and (if I read it right) the land pack that comes in a Fat Pack.

Also, the pics are posted directly in the first post, although i believe the img link is pointing directly to the ones on Wizards' site, which would explain why you can't see them.


Edit: Damn, typos all over the place, making it look like my grammar is horrible. It's not, I swear, I tested out of English 1 and would've tested out of English 2 if they'd let me.

Pinder
08-10-2009, 12:00 PM
Hot damn, those are beautiful. I've always thought that every basic land should have the same border as the Unhinged since they were printed, and this is close enough to be totally fantastic.

hungryLIKEALION
08-10-2009, 01:05 PM
I just don't understand why they wouldn't give those borders to ALL the basic lands from the set... ;\

Nessaja
08-10-2009, 01:22 PM
Because there's no indication for a new player that the portayed plains gives mana?

jimmerz213
08-10-2009, 01:27 PM
Because there's no indication for a new player that the portayed plains gives mana?

Its just as descriptive as the old card, a white sun with no text. Its just smaller and down a bit. If they want to go back to indicating that they should revert to the tapping symbol and explain what it does. Theres really no reason they shouldnt include the new style in the theme decks.

Nessaja
08-10-2009, 01:29 PM
That small symbol at the bottom of the picture is much less of an indication then the big symbol in the middle of the text box. They're taking this as the middle road between the old way and this way and quite frankly I'd say it's a good middle road.

Having cards in beginners sets that have a totally different design doesn't seem like a good idea to me.

rockout
08-10-2009, 01:36 PM
I like the plains on the right but is it really better than foil unhinged plains or beta plains or "urza" foil plains?

Koby
08-10-2009, 01:44 PM
I'll take Korean BB 4th basics over this crap anyday.

Ectoplasm
08-10-2009, 01:44 PM
I like the plains on the right but is it really better than foil unhinged plains or beta plains or "urza" foil plains?

Guess that's for everyone to find out for himself, I prefer the APAC 'sunflower' plains and the euroland Dutch plains (duh) but these are pretty spiffy.

I've never really liked the urza lands though, except some of the islands but IMO kamigawa has the islands covered (even though APAC is again, just better).

Koby
08-10-2009, 01:45 PM
Having cards in beginners sets that have a totally different design doesn't seem like a good idea to me.

Core set is Beginner level sets.
Expansions are Advanced level sets.

Git with the program yo!

rockout
08-10-2009, 01:52 PM
Guess that's for everyone to find out for himself, I prefer the APAC 'sunflower' plains and the euroland Dutch plains (duh) but these are pretty spiffy.

I've never really liked the urza lands though, except some of the islands but IMO kamigawa has the islands covered (even though APAC is again, just better).

oo Good call the APAC sunflower lands are extremely sexy. I think it's time to upgrade my 5 basics.

At my last tournament I did have my opponent ask me what my MPS Japanese Time Spiral Promo Foil Islands were in terms of which land type, he might have also asked what my foil unhinged plains were as well.

Nessaja
08-10-2009, 01:53 PM
Core set is Beginner level sets.
Expansions are Advanced level sets.

Git with the program yo!
But these only come with a Zendikar intro pack... Intro packs are for beginners too =/


New Product: Intro Pack

Along with the above changes, a new product will be introduced into the Magic lineup. The intro pack will be the best way for existing players to find out about the new set's mechanics and setting. It will also be the best tool for introducing new players into the game by allowing them to learn with the most current cards. Intro pack contents include
They'd be stupid if they only tried to attract new players with core sets.

Jujuhawk
08-10-2009, 02:30 PM
Unhinged are inf better, not even close.

Koby
08-10-2009, 02:55 PM
But these only come with a Zendikar intro pack... Intro packs are for beginners too =/




"If, for example, you were to open a Zendikar Intro Pack, you might well find these two Plains cards."

(old style land frames)

Ah! But what if you get your lands from a Zendikar booster pack or the fat pack? Well, then you'll get lands that look more like these!

(unglued style land frames)


Reading is tech.

Nessaja
08-10-2009, 02:57 PM
Reading is tech.
You might want to take that advice yourself and actually read that the posts were about the themed packs aka intro packs.

http://mtgthesource.com/forums/showpost.php?p=369309&postcount=40
-> why do they print the old style at all in themed packs
-> because themed packs are now introduction packs for beginners, and for beginners this is likely easier

Not sure what you are on about

from Cairo
08-10-2009, 06:06 PM
I'm not that into them, but I guess they are better than the giant mana symbol on the whole bottom of the card. I will probably still use promo, unhinged/unglued or beta land over any of these.

Koby
08-10-2009, 07:03 PM
Not sure what you are on about

I was going back to the primary source: Wizards.

OBV that Intro Packs are considered Beginner product. You can't even build a 60 card deck with them. What existing player would buy this horrible excuse for product?

Intro Pack = newbie product = old frames.
Booster packs = Advanced product = Unhinged frames.

I'm glad we could clear up the confusion.

kroelai
08-10-2009, 09:35 PM
German Ice-Age Snow-Covered lands FTW.

Even better as foils!


Damn I like it they do these borders, although both arts are not my favourites.

mujadaddy
08-10-2009, 10:49 PM
I love the one with the flying stones, I just don't really like the bottom left part of it, can't seem to discern what the hell that is.

The big pic at the link shows that it's the foreground of one of the pyramid-thingees.

thesilentpyro
08-11-2009, 12:09 AM
Island pics:
http://www.wizards.com/mtg/images/daily/arcana/252_tallisland1_zg521f73s4.jpg http://www.wizards.com/mtg/images/daily/arcana/252_tallisland2_zg521f73s4.jpg

The first one seems too busy, but other than that I like it--vibrant, very blue with the waterspouts, seems very magical. Mixed feelings on the second one--what makes it an island? However, it certainly seems like a font of magical energy, although the colors are kinda dull.

rockout
08-11-2009, 12:42 AM
I like both of those islands. I found my new foil islands mmmm so excited.

Skeggi
08-11-2009, 02:52 AM
I just don't understand why they wouldn't give those borders to ALL the basic lands from the set... ;\
They're a bit more rare than the normal lands this way. They'll have to sell more packs to satisfy the demand for the new lands. It's all marketing.

Elfrago
08-11-2009, 02:59 AM
The island with the obelisk is amazing, the other is... meh

TheInfamousBearAssassin
08-11-2009, 03:16 AM
On some level, it doesn't matter if the art would make Michaelangelo weep for envy. If they're not expensive, most people won't play them.


Maybe Japanese foils.

MTG-Fan
08-11-2009, 04:14 AM
These are waaaay overdone and dramatic and busy.

There's no subtlety. An Island should be placid and calm, imho.

I still prefer the Unhinged basics, or the Snow-Covered lands from Coldsnap.

IsThisACatInAHat?
08-11-2009, 04:17 AM
Theese basics look awesome, but
a) I like Plains to be Plains, no flying stones or pyramids or other crap, but that's just personal taste...
b) Need moar John Avon!
a) QFT. Mirrodin and Ravnica were the worst blocks for this. I can kind of see how they fit the "theme" of the block, but give me a break. Those lands just sucked.
b) This. Best landscape artist they have and just as important, he actually draws a picture of what the card is supposed to be.


They are vast improvement over the godawful giant mana symbol basics they have been giving us since 6th edition. If this becomes the norm I wont have to keep using Ice Age basics for all of my decks.
Again, QFT. I play all Mirage as a personal preference (infinitely thankful some of the best land art came before 6th), but there have been some seriously nice lands since then, only to be ruined by that giant ugly symbol on the bottom half. Not that I'm getting tired of the Mirage art, but Invasion has some pretty pictures I really wish I could use.

Now maybe if they can just combine the above points- say, all new lands, either full-card or with "T: Add X to your mana pool." in the textbox, entirely drawn by John Avon... that'd be something...

eq.firemind
08-11-2009, 04:19 AM
I finnaly found a good comparsion to describe my feelings about theese new lands.
Everyone knows what "the danger of cool things" means when we talk about cardchoices, right? Theese lands make me feel just the same.

Nessaja
08-11-2009, 04:24 AM
I was going back to the primary source: Wizards.
Nothing of what you quoted wasn't already established and taken as knowledge (even already mentioned here). Did you know that the sky is blue and grass is green?

These islands just aren't pretty, they're busy and have some bad effects on them. Not describing landscape but action.

Wrath_Of_Houlding
08-11-2009, 11:01 AM
Wow...didn't think I would be the lone voice of dissent, but I LOVE the "pouring" island. That looks amazing!

Hikeeba!
08-11-2009, 01:19 PM
I don't think you are alone. I love the pouring one as well. The water spout one is OK and I'd use it, but I really like the other one.

keys
08-11-2009, 02:46 PM
Sure they're busy, but damn... they're beautiful too.

I'm too attached to the beta lands I play with in my constructed decks, but these will be fun for drafting.

AngryTroll
08-11-2009, 03:02 PM
I actually like that waterspout island. I like the cliffs at the edge of the ocean, the waterspouts, and the colors. The plains with the big pyramid thing is nice looking too.

I've already got a bunch of Unglued Islands, but I'll probably pick up a couple of each of these too. I like the borders on these; I hope they continue to do them this way in the future. John Avon lands on these borders? Saucy.

paK0
08-11-2009, 03:54 PM
They look waaaaay cooler than the Unhinged ones.

I like the combination of big image + actually seeing something better than just a desert or an island.

LostButSeeking
08-11-2009, 04:03 PM
I like these a lot. I like variety in my lands (except for my mountains. All my mountains should be the same art from time spiral, #295 by Alexander Gregory). I don't think any land has to be cooler than every land that has been printed before, just . . . nice. And if nothing else, these land arts are certainly different from the norm.

I mean, the cup one . . . man, that plane is seriously messed up, somehow.

JeroenC
08-12-2009, 09:25 AM
Swamps look extremely good. I will probably try to get my greasy little hands on the cup island and the floating ball swamp.

Wrath_Of_Houlding
08-12-2009, 09:28 AM
I liked the vine-encrusted pyramid swamp. All these pyramid/obelisk looking things are quite interesting...a vaguely egyptian themed block would be cool...

Morphling420
08-12-2009, 10:49 AM
Beta Lands FTW!!!!!!!

bb-g
08-12-2009, 10:51 AM
And here the swamps:

http://www.wizards.com/mtg/images/daily/arcana/253_tallswamp1_a7iy433tvc.jpg http://www.wizards.com/mtg/images/daily/arcana/253_tallswamp2_a7iy433tvc.jpg

thebadmagicplayer
08-12-2009, 11:15 AM
And here the swamps:

http://www.wizards.com/mtg/images/daily/arcana/253_tallswamp2_a7iy433tvc.jpg

I belive that the phrase ''twisted testicle swamp FTW'' sums up my feelings on this subject.:laugh:

jimmerz213
08-12-2009, 12:14 PM
I wasnt as impressed with the swamps, mainly the purplish one. The floating vine ball thing is kinda cool, but they dont compare to the island/plains ones. Im looking forward to the forests the most...I hope they dont suck.

Wrath_Of_Houlding
08-12-2009, 12:21 PM
It's funny...I don't really consider myself much of a blue mage outside of Legacy (definitely a fan of R or BW), but Islands are usually my favorite looking lands...and that seems to continue here: I'd be very surprised if any of these lands were more appealing to me than the stone bowl island.

Dan Turner
08-12-2009, 12:41 PM
I hope at least one of the forest look like something straight out of a south american Jungle

Pulp_Fiction
08-12-2009, 01:20 PM
Those Islands are HOT! I always thought the Unhinged lands were garbage, and to this day I am not sure why people spend so much money on them ... but whatever.

I personally think Beta Basics look the best so that is what I play. Unfortunately these lands won't change that, but in keeping with the opening post, I would certainly buy these foil over the ugly Unhinged lands.

JeroenC
08-12-2009, 01:30 PM
Hmmm, am I the only person here who likes the "floating" landscapes?

Wrath_Of_Houlding
08-12-2009, 02:12 PM
They certainly make me excited about the theme of Zendikar...

Aggro_zombies
08-12-2009, 02:33 PM
Those floating bowl island thingies made me jizz in my pants. I need a ton of those for Oona now.

bowvamp
08-12-2009, 04:05 PM
The floating islands are cool, however my favorite Island of all time will forever be: http://magiccards.info/tp/en/316.html

If I ever play a deck with Islands in it, this will be the type of island I'll use.

I look more at how serene and majestic it's portrayed, and this picture hits the nail on the head in terms of that.

ShadowOfTitans
08-12-2009, 04:14 PM
I'm a big fan of the new frame. Anything that is full card art for lands, I've been a fan of. I'm not (and never have been) big on beta lands and such, but I used to have full unhinged foil lands for my madness deck.

That being said, I'm not a foil person now, I just play. These new lands are pretty sweet if you aren't interested in foiling/foreigning/beta-ing your decks.

Wrath_Of_Houlding
08-12-2009, 04:23 PM
If I ever play a deck with Islands in it, this will be the type of island I'll use.

Is it that improbable?


I'm a big fan of the new frame. Anything that is full card art for lands, I've been a fan of.

Next: Full art for vanilla creatures, ala Future Sight? Pretty please?

Bardo
08-12-2009, 06:08 PM
I think the new frames are step in the right direction, esp. if they change the frame up with the style of whatever new blocks are coming out.

Other than Unhinged, I won't play with post-Masques basics because the large mana symbols look like junk to me. Which is a pity since so much good basic land art is basically dead to me with those ugly ass symbols.

Here's hoping for a change to my only-APAC, Beta, Unhinged, Mirage basic land pile.

thesilentpyro
08-12-2009, 06:18 PM
This (http://beta.gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=73973) remains as my favorite land. None of these compares yet.

JeroenC
08-12-2009, 06:27 PM
@Bardo: do you mean you prefer the new frame? Or the old one?

@everyone: does everyone really hate the "big" mana symbols? I really prefer them over the entire ability being typed out, and I've often considered putting it on Llanowar Elves and his companions.

beastman
08-12-2009, 09:01 PM
I like the new plains with the floating crystals. It looks pretty sexy.

Bardo
08-12-2009, 10:19 PM
@Bardo: do you mean you prefer the new frame? Or the old one?

@everyone: does everyone really hate the "big" mana symbols? I really prefer them over the entire ability being typed out, and I've often considered putting it on Llanowar Elves and his companions.

I think the Zendikar textless frame for basic lands looks pretty cool and am hoping they change it up from frame from set to set. About the frame, I prefer the old one (Alpha - Onslaught), though I grudgingly accept the new card frame (Mirrodin forward), though I'd prefer they hadn't changed it. What's done is done so there's no sense dwelling on it.

(Fixed my post above (#87). Didn't mean to confuse.)

About basic lands, I won't use one with the big mana symbol (Portal and post-MM) and much prefer the older "T: To add U to your mana pool." The mana symbols looks goofy to me.

Dan Turner
08-13-2009, 12:06 AM
omg the new mountains If I can get 3 foils of them they are going in my goblin deck sad thing about these is they may be the first lands to actually make it into my "I'm using this binder since an UN set.

bb-g
08-13-2009, 05:41 AM
http://www.wizards.com/mtg/images/daily/arcana/254_tallmountain1_csog5qoe85.jpg http://www.wizards.com/mtg/images/daily/arcana/254_tallmountain2_csog5qoe85.jpg

JeroenC
08-13-2009, 05:46 AM
Omg. I think I might just drool. I don't know which one I want more, but just for this once, I might actually prefer the portal over the floating landscape.

georgjorge
08-13-2009, 07:05 AM
Next: Full art for vanilla creatures, ala Future Sight? Pretty please?

Wow, that seems like a REALLY good idea...makes up for the flavor lost by not having any abilities. I'd love to see that.

JeroenC
08-13-2009, 08:14 AM
Every land has had a version without anything floating already, so stop whining about that. And this is still a fantasy game- so the lands can't/won't always be the "normal" things you seem to want them to be.
Floating things are awesome, by the way.

thesilentpyro
08-13-2009, 08:23 AM
http://www.wizards.com/mtg/images/daily/arcana/254_tallmountain1_csog5qoe85.jpg http://www.wizards.com/mtg/images/daily/arcana/254_tallmountain2_csog5qoe85.jpg

The floating one here seems a bit dull, although it does fit the style of some mountains of the past (other than the floating part...). I like the art on the portal-ish one, but what about that is red? The snow? I guess it's spiky and there are some mountain-ish things in the background... Oh, and stuff is breaking! There's the red!

I'm really hoping they're showing us the worse half of the lands; it'd be a shame to waste the nicer frames on the bad art. So far, I'm still sticking with Unhinged (especially for islands and swamps, 'cause I love the Unhinged versions of those).

eq.firemind
08-13-2009, 08:29 AM
http://www.wizards.com/mtg/images/daily/arcana/254_tallmountain1_csog5qoe85.jpg
Just needs some C-300 to shoot down the fucking flying stones and it'll be perfect! Avon is The Master...
But the frame spoils all the fun for me :frown:

Nessaja
08-13-2009, 08:47 AM
I think the problem with all these lands is that they're waaaay too much zoomed in.

Wrath_Of_Houlding
08-13-2009, 10:07 AM
Zoomed in? Did you notice the birds on the bowl island? They're those tiny insignificant dots in the corner, being dwarfed by the landscape.

Nessaja
08-13-2009, 10:13 AM
Compared to an Unhinged Island, that's zoomed in.

Also, perhaps it's not just that; it's more that there's an incredibly clear focal point instead of it being a landscape. I guess zoomed in wasn't entirely the right word. Thinking about it something being zoomed in can be pretty (like the Unhinged Swamp). But putting action and a clear focal point on a land card just isn't that pretty to me, these cards are really busy for lands and don't bring the serenity that Unhinged lands do (even compared to duals).

Bryant Cook
08-13-2009, 10:30 AM
Great I now need 10 more Japanese Foil Land for my casual deck. 2 for each hot picture.

Wrath_Of_Houlding
08-13-2009, 10:41 AM
Compared to an Unhinged Island, that's zoomed in.

Also, perhaps it's not just that; it's more that there's an incredibly clear focal point instead of it being a landscape. I guess zoomed in wasn't entirely the right word. Thinking about it something being zoomed in can be pretty (like the Unhinged Swamp). But putting action and a clear focal point on a land card just isn't that pretty to me, these cards are really busy for lands and don't bring the serenity that Unhinged lands do (even compared to duals).

That may be intentional though. These lands are meant to reflect the current happenings in Zendikar, whatever they may be; and since we're taking the time to visit, they're assumedly somewhat chaotic. Unhinged lands have the advantage of being from a non-fictional locale in a peaceful moment. I don't think that's something we're seeing here.

JeroenC
08-13-2009, 10:46 AM
Great I now need 10 more Japanese Foil Land for my casual deck. 2 for each hot picture.

There's also 2 more arts for each land type that we didn't even see yet.

rockout
08-13-2009, 10:53 AM
The mountains they posted today look awful. Give me

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?multiverseid=26307&type=card foil or give me death

Nessaja
08-13-2009, 11:00 AM
That may be intentional though. These lands are meant to reflect the current happenings in Zendikar, whatever they may be; and since we're taking the time to visit, they're assumedly somewhat chaotic. Unhinged lands have the advantage of being from a non-fictional locale in a peaceful moment. I don't think that's something we're seeing here.
Ofcourse it's intentional, I never said they made it this chaotic on accident :eyebrow:

I'm just saying that I wouldn't use such chaotic lands in my deck, they look like spells. And I very much enjoy the serenity, peace and calm of the lands I do use (unhinged forests).

From the ones spoiled so far I like the Pyramid plains the most, but I don't see the relation between plains and Pyramids just yet.

Wrath_Of_Houlding
08-13-2009, 11:29 AM
Ofcourse it's intentional, I never said they made it this chaotic on accident :eyebrow:

I'm just saying that I wouldn't use such chaotic lands in my deck, they look like spells. And I very much enjoy the serenity, peace and calm of the lands I do use (unhinged forests).

Fair enough...and for this format, where block of origin is obviously less important, I can certainly see that. If I'm playing standard though, I surely want to reflect the craziness of the worlds I'm slinging from.


From the ones spoiled so far I like the Pyramid plains the most, but I don't see the relation between plains and Pyramids just yet.

I guess plains are closest to desert of the basic lands...although the entire block thus far seems to have a pyramid/stone structure theme.

bb-g
08-14-2009, 07:00 AM
http://www.wizards.com/mtg/images/daily/arcana/255_tallforest1_okcp1gylfr.jpg http://www.wizards.com/mtg/images/daily/arcana/255_tallforest2_okcp1gylfr.jpg

jimmerz213
08-14-2009, 08:38 AM
http://www.wizards.com/mtg/images/daily/arcana/255_tallforest1_okcp1gylfr.jpg

John Avon saves the day again. Im stoked for this forest.

JeroenC
08-14-2009, 08:41 AM
Really? I don't really like either of them. Avon looks too much like Treetop Village, Proce looks randomly mutated. I'm hoping the other two forests are better.

Pltnmngl
08-14-2009, 09:08 AM
John Avon saves the day again. Im stoked for this forest.

You're telling me. Booth forests make me want to make a Treefolk deck.

LostButSeeking
08-14-2009, 09:12 AM
John Avon saves the day again. Im stoked for this forest.

QFT. I love that forest. The plains were okay, I dislike the mountains and the swamps, that floating saucer island is cool in a "wow, that's different" sort of way. . . but that forest is just stunning.

Phantom
08-14-2009, 09:24 AM
New things are bad and scary! Old things are comfortable and good. Also, paying a ton of money for basics makes you a man and totally not a sucker.

Nessaja
08-14-2009, 12:48 PM
John Avon forest is extremely nice

Zach Tartell
08-14-2009, 02:45 PM
My name is Zach Tartell and I approve of these new lands.

TheInfamousBearAssassin
08-14-2009, 03:03 PM
People need to get off of Avon's cock.

On a side note, does anyone else think the second forest looks kind of... dirty?

socialite
08-14-2009, 03:06 PM
These here lands blow.

jimmerz213
08-14-2009, 04:13 PM
On a side note, does anyone else think the second forest looks kind of... dirty?

....Yea...now that you mention it..thats wierd.

Bardo
08-14-2009, 05:57 PM
On a side note, does anyone else think the second forest looks kind of... dirty?

Zendikar: Where trees shit pyramids.

Miss_Serra
08-14-2009, 07:01 PM
I'm big when it comes to the art hell, I only use one plains. The dunes by Chippy but still Wizards is putting entirely too much effort into simple things like land. when they should be fine tuning the rest of the damn game....

rockout
08-14-2009, 08:48 PM
I'm big when it comes to the art hell, I only use one plains. The dunes by Chippy but still Wizards is putting entirely too much effort into simple things like land. when they should be fine tuning the rest of the damn game....

Its a good point but come on look at that sexy bowl island, I know you love it, dont lie.

TheCramp
08-14-2009, 10:20 PM
People need to get off of Avon's cock.

On a side note, does anyone else think the second forest looks kind of... dirty?

Yes!!! what the hell is that pyramid doing to that tree anyway? Sodomizing it obviously...

Edit: Hold on, Art Direction is a whole different department than R&D and Development. You do not want the illustrators working on game design. Trust me, I know. 'Cause I would do it all wrong. Chandra would cost ::2:: less 'cause she is a fucking steam punk fire-mage, and I had a D&D character who would totally date her. Braids would be 4/4 for the same effect because she was the D&D character who would date Chandra. The new Drudge Skeletons would be +1/+0 and pro-white as well because the picture is balling. Ape tribal would be tire 1, it would be mayhem...

thebadmagicplayer
08-14-2009, 11:55 PM
[QUOTE=TheInfamousBearAssassin;370747]People need to get off of Avon's cock.
QUOTE]

with the way that forrest looked, if anything, wizards needs to ride Avon's cock harder.

Bardo
08-15-2009, 01:24 AM
The dunes by Chippy but still Wizards is putting entirely too much effort into simple things like land. when they should be fine tuning the rest of the damn game....

The new-frame art is an invention of Marketing/Brand and Art--not R&D. They don't have anything to do with each other. Besides, the game is still really fucking good.

Bardo
08-15-2009, 01:24 AM
The dunes by Chippy but still Wizards is putting entirely too much effort into simple things like land. when they should be fine tuning the rest of the damn game....

The new-frame art is an invention of Marketing/Brand and Art--not R&D. They don't have anything to do with each other. Besides, the game is still really good.

rockout
08-15-2009, 10:38 AM
Why is it always green that gets the shaft? The forest look like some artist took some laxatives and went diarrhea all over a card frame. Anyone actually like them?

Dark_Shakuras
08-16-2009, 01:04 PM
Zendikar: Where trees shit pyramids.

Zendikar: Where trees use giant butt plugs.