[New Format] Redux

[Fuzzy]

Hi guys! I need help to build a deck for a Redux champs. I still have a month to pick a deck, but it's REALLY hard to think in something.

Redux = Legacy - Extended + Coldsnap + Alara Block + M10 with Legacy B&R. No Goyf, no Fetchs, no Tendrills, no Counterbalance...

My three biggest problems:

1. I really don't want play Madness or Tog.
2. I need beat Madness and Tog :rolleyes: .
3. I'm pussy and don't want scoop to Wasteland.

Any thoughts?

[Ectoplasm]

Seems like a perfect meta to play either goblins or merfolk :)
I'd say sleeve up some merfolk and watch the limbs fly!

[citanul]

Extended still has Onslaught. So Onslaught is illegal in this format. Goblins doesn't look so good now.

How does it work with Reprints though? Cards that are in M10 but are in Extended in another set as well?

[Nessaja]

Solidarity?

nvm misses kill condition. Thats hard..

Mono black aggro? Sinkholes, Hymns, Dark Ritual, Hyppie, should have some good stuff.

[Tea]

Zoo
wild nacatl, qasali pridemage, kird ape, lightning bolt....

[Wrath_Of_Houlding]

No merfolk either without lorwyn block...

[hungryLIKEALION]

Zoo
wild nacatl, qasali pridemage, kird ape, lightning bolt....

or


Mono black aggro? Sinkholes, Hymns, Dark Ritual, Hyppie, should have some good stuff.

Seem like good choices.

[Fuzzy]

How does it work with Reprints though? Cards that are in M10 but are in Extended in another set as well?

Any card printed before Extended is legal, like Mana Leak on Stronghold.

[citanul]

Any card printed before Extended is legal, like Mana Leak on Stronghold.


Doesn't really answer my question though.
Siege-Gang COmmander is originally printed in Scourge, which is Extended Legal. Has a reprint in M10 so it's not legal in this format with Scourge but it is with M10. So what is the ruling on that?

[Atwa]

Doesn't really answer my question though.
Siege-Gang COmmander is originally printed in Scourge, which is Extended Legal. Has a reprint in M10 so it's not legal in this format with Scourge but it is with M10. So what is the ruling on that?

It should be legal then, wouldn't it?

If it's printed in a legal set, it's legal to play. Just like every other format known to tournament players.

[DrJones]

I can understand allowing Coldsnap, but why does it allow M10 and Alara block? Seems pretty random to me.

[Fuzzy]

Doesn't really answer my question though.
Siege-Gang COmmander is originally printed in Scourge, which is Extended Legal. Has a reprint in M10 so it's not legal in this format with Scourge but it is with M10. So what is the ruling on that?

Yes, I can play Goblin Sligh. Happy? :tongue:


I can understand allowing Coldsnap, but why does it allow M10 and Alara block? Seems pretty random to me.

I can't understand it too, but I can't do anything about. :rolleyes:

[beastman]

Onslaught will be legal in Redux, its no longer legal in Extended.

[Paradigm Shift]

Well, if Onslaught is illegal then no fetches, thus no Zoo. If Onslaught is legal I fully vote Naya Zoo. Bolt, C. Lightning, Fireblast, Lavamancer, Nacatl, Kird, Wooly Thoctar, Pridemage. If not, Aluren? I think all the pieces for Aluren should exist. That could be fun. Maybe Cephalid Life?

[Fuzzy]

Onslaught will be legal in Redux, its no longer legal in Extended.

http://www.wizards.com/magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtgcom/daily/dl27

NO, NO FETCHLANDS.

[Eldariel]

Goblins are frankly perfectly fine without Onslaught thanks to M10; you still get Lackey, Matron, Ringleader and Siege-Gang, and you can play 4 Chieftains to compensate for Warchief. The thing that kills this idea is lacking Aether Vial. Then again, since Lightning Bolt is actually good in this format, the 4 Bolt more aggressive Gobs could be doable.

Me, I'd personally play MUC. Control seems good and Back to Basics seems better than ever with no Fetch-for-Basics (though you have Mirage fetchlands). Besides, in a control mirror, the deck with the most blue wins. Given that MUC got nothing but Shackles and Spell Snare from recent sets, you should be just fine. Just play Control Magics on the SB. The big question is whether you use new or old combat & manaburn rules. With old combat rules, Morphling is still awesome, but with the new ones, he's mehhish regardless of the sets.


Of course, you could just screw it all and play Armageddon WW.

[MMogg]

Just play Control Magics on the SB.

I'm probably alone in this, but I prefer Dominate (http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=21303) to Control Magic. Although it can be a little more mana intensive (depending on what you're looking to control), it's also at instant speed and unaffected by disenchant effects. :cool: River Boa and Pouncing Jaguar attack? I don't think so beotch, take your Boa and block your Jag. Muahahaha Ok, I need to calm down . . . memories. :cry: Or, EOT Dominate, next turn attack with all your mana open.