EDH entry deck

[Mr. Fix it]

me and friend were kinda tempted to join in the fun of EDH at a local tourny and were wondering what would be a good/ common EDH deck to build to get started with, we thought slivers but that seemed a little too substandard from some of the plays we saw at our local tournament any suggestion for people looking to explore the format?

[DrJones]

I would suggest Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed (http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=10590), but you might have difficulties finding a physical copy. These days, there has been a lot of talk about "Thelon of Havenwood" and how the current EDH prevent you from using him, so that one is out until enough people protest about the dumb rules.

[Skeggi]

Check out the casual forum (http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=56) it contains some EDH decks.

[Maagler]

I would suggest Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed (http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=10590), but you might have difficulties finding a physical copy. These days, there has been a lot of talk about "Thelon of Havenwood" and how the current EDH prevent you from using him, so that one is out until enough people protest about the dumb rules.

why cant you use him?

[Sims]

I would suggest Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed (http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=10590), but you might have difficulties finding a physical copy. These days, there has been a lot of talk about "Thelon of Havenwood" and how the current EDH prevent you from using him, so that one is out until enough people protest about the dumb rules.

I'd play Thelon if he were not an illegal general. But changing the rules to allow him would probably allow for a lot more stupid shit than is currently allowed (Memnarch anyone?) and I'm fine with the rules as is.

Edit to answer Maagler: Thelon costs Green, but he has a black mana symbol on his activated ability. According to EDH rules you can only have cards with mana symbols present in your generals Casting Cost. He doesn't have :b: in his cost, just :g::g:

[Valtrix]

Uril the Miststalker is a good general...He can get there for general damage quite easily. Also, if you want to be a jerk like me you can play Gaddock Teeg (Actually, he was the first legendary creature I had that didn't completely suck, and I really hate dealing with all the stupid 4+ cost cards people play like wrath. People say Teeg isn't fun, but I say wrath/armegeddon is less fun.)

One of the nice things about EDH is you can pretty much play any general you want, find some ways for card advantage to put in there, and play with a fun/decent deck.

[Nightmare]

why cant you use him?

The rules:

You cannot play any cards in your deck which contain in the cost or text box a mana symbol which is NOT in the General's mana cost.

Since these Generals break that rule themselves, they're illegal.

See:
Bosh
Memnarch
Rhys, the Exiled
Thelon of Havenwood
Daughter of Autumn

[Sims]

Uril the Miststalker is a good general...He can get there for general damage quite easily. Also, if you want to be a jerk like me you can play Gaddock Teeg (Actually, he was the first legendary creature I had that didn't completely suck, and I really hate dealing with all the stupid 4+ cost cards people play like wrath. People say Teeg isn't fun, but I say wrath/armegeddon is less fun.)

One of the nice things about EDH is you can pretty much play any general you want, find some ways for card advantage to put in there, and play with a fun/decent deck.

EDH is a format where most people play casually so they can use those 4+, 6+, or even 8+ cost spells that they'd never admit to even owning in a competitive constructed format. Yeah, people tend to get their constructed side on and build some nasty decks, but at the end of the day Teeg is a dick because he inherently shuts down over half of most EDH decks, the broken and the casual lawl piles. Lets face it, if you're playing a creature based deck in ANY format and can't deal with a Wrath effect, you're probably doin-it-wrong. Geddon I can almost understand, because it's effect is a lot more devastating and can be made more one sided, but again... Usually I've used and seen it used as a method of sealing a game that was already in the players favor and keeping the opponent from topdecking Time Stretch and going to town.

[Maagler]

The rules:

You cannot play any cards in your deck which contain in the cost or text box a mana symbol which is NOT in the General's mana cost.

Since these Generals break that rule themselves, they're illegal.

See:
Bosh
Memnarch
Rhys, the Exiled
Thelon of Havenwood
Daughter of Autumn

Ah thanks!

[Mr. Fix it]

I would suggest Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed (http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=10590), but you might have difficulties finding a physical copy. These days, there has been a lot of talk about "Thelon of Havenwood" and how the current EDH prevent you from using him, so that one is out until enough people protest about the dumb rules.

that guy looks interesting even in other compeditive formats.

correct me if i'm wrong but when generals hit the graveyard there removed from the game aren't they? so you can recast them later for 2 more color i think it is?

[Valtrix]

I believe the way the general thing work is that it's a replacement effect that you can choose to activate. For example, your general would go the graveyard, so you can choose whether or not if you want to put him back in the general zone. If you do, then to play him again it costs :2: more for each other time you've played them from that zone. If you want you could let your general go to the graveyard, but you can't at a later time decide to just remove it from there to put him in the general zone again.

[Mr. Fix it]

as you said the "generals zone"

so if i faerie macabe him from the yard he returns to the "general zone" instead of exiled?

[Jak]

I believe the way the general thing work is that it's a replacement effect that you can choose to activate. For example, your general would go the graveyard, so you can choose whether or not if you want to put him back in the general zone. If you do, then to play him again it costs :2: for each other time you've played them from that zone. If you want you could let your general go to the graveyard, but you can't at a later time decide to just remove it from there to put him in the general zone again.

Correct. This is why Child of Alara is not busted.

[paK0]

as you said the "generals zone"

so if i faerie macabe him from the yard he returns to the "general zone" instead of exiled?

Afaik there isn't a "general-zone"

The Generel starts the game exiled, and that is where he is going to if he is removed from the yard, I'm however unsure about what it will cost then.

[MMogg]

Afaik there isn't a "general-zone"

The Generel starts the game exiled, and that is where he is going to if he is removed from the yard, I'm however unsure about what it will cost then.

He isn't removed from the graveyard. If he would be put into the graveyard you can chose to exile him instead: it's a replacement effect so he never actually hits the graveyard. You can recast him, as Valtrix alreay said, for :2: additional mana each time you cast him. So, the first time you cast, for example, is :2::b::b:, then if he is exiled and you want to bring him back it is :4::b::b:, then :6::b::b: and so on.

[paK0]

When i said that i meant the removal that the Faerie Macabre causes =).

[MMogg]

When i said that i meant the removal that the Faerie Macabre causes =).

Doh! Sorry, I neglected to read what you quoted closely enough. :eek:

I think the cost is still upped by two each time you cast him, no matter how he is exiled. :smile:

[JeroenC]

Afaik there isn't a "general-zone"

When Planechase comes around, there will be. The "Command Zone", where active Planes will also be, is where Generals live then.

[AngryTroll]

You can choose to let your general go to the graveyard if you want to (See: Child of Alara). They're then stuck there until you find a way to move them back to your hand, play, or remove them from the game.

It doesn't matter how your general goes to the graveyard-you can choose to remove it from the game instead. Mind Twist, Entomb (if it's been Condemned, Hallowed Burial-ed, etc), Pull from Eternity, however it would go to the yard, you can remove it from the game instead. The Mind Twist thing came up once in a tournament, and we had to go look it up.

[ShadowOfTitans]

When Planechase comes around, there will be. The "Command Zone", where active Planes will also be, is where Generals live then.

Statements like that make me eager to play Planechase EDH.

[JeroenC]

What? What about my statement makes you want something like that? Anyway, sounds like a lovely idea. Too bad the Planes seem to favor control so far.

[Koby]

RE: Multiplayer & Control

I generally find most dedicated aggro decks cannot actually win in multiplayer. The more pressure you apply, the higher the likelihood you will be painted as a large target. Control and Control-(johhny)combo are the only real decks for multiplayer.

"Just wait 'til I get my Mycosynth Lattice, March of the Machines, Chandra, AND Quicksilver Elemental!"

[Bryant Cook]

RE: Multiplayer & Control

I generally find most dedicated aggro decks cannot actually win in multiplayer. The more pressure you apply, the higher the likelihood you will be painted as a large target. Control and Control-(johhny)combo are the only real decks for multiplayer.

"Just wait 'til I get my Mycosynth Lattice, March of the Machines, Chandra, AND Quicksilver Elemental!"

My Godo deck is a really good aggro deck. 5/5 pro your deck, swing twice = Retarded.

[MMogg]

Hmm, I didn't want to start an entirely new thread for this and I couldn't find anything by searching for EDH rules. My question relates to banned cards in EDH. Is there an "official" list somewhere? I found a list on this wikia (http://mtg.wikia.com/wiki/EDH), but I have no idea how official it is.

Perhaps if someone has time/energy, an EDH FAQ can be stickied in the casual play forum.

[Aggro_zombies]

Hmm, I didn't want to start an entirely new thread for this and I couldn't find anything by searching for EDH rules. My question relates to banned cards in EDH. Is there an "official" list somewhere? I found a list on this wikia (http://mtg.wikia.com/wiki/EDH), but I have no idea how official it is.

Perhaps if someone has time/energy, an EDH FAQ can be stickied in the casual play forum.
Here you go. (http://forum.dragonhighlander.net/EDH_Forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=261)

[MMogg]

Here you go. (http://forum.dragonhighlander.net/EDH_Forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=261)

Thanks! :smile:

Repeaten: this ought to be part of a sticky in teh casual forum. :cool: For EDH n00bs like me.

[Koby]

My Godo deck is a really good aggro deck. 5/5 pro your deck, swing twice = Retarded.

To be fair, this is more of a combo deck.

I put Kaldra-tron in my deck, since attacking with a pro Godo isn't too much fun after the 3rd time. At least Kaldra-tron gives players something to look forward to: getting smacked around by a Super Token. :D

[Shanghi Knights]

i'd love to hit people with kaldra again but i some how lost my sword and only have my helm and shield left

[ShadowOfTitans]

What? What about my statement makes you want something like that? Anyway, sounds like a lovely idea. Too bad the Planes seem to favor control so far.

You mentioned planes and generals in the same zone...I don't mind if they favor control, I play a control/combo Sharuum deck anyway :)

[Mr. Fix it]

do many people play slivers in EDH?