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Smmenen
09-21-2009, 04:23 PM
http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/misc/18040_So_Many_Insane_Plays_VintageLegacy_Split_Article.html

In this article I break down the Legacy metagame, with pretty charts showing the distribution of decks by archetype.

Want to find out if your deck is any good? Now you can find out!

(Preemptive warning: first guy to whine about Premium gets his anus shoved through his anus ~NC)

TheInfamousBearAssassin
09-23-2009, 03:01 AM
Nah, really, I've been banned from the forums three times and gotten into shit with half the staff, but SCG really does support the Eternal formats very visibly and loyally.

I think they did try to buy the Source once, but nothing came of it, and as far as I know there's no financial connection.

AngryTroll
09-23-2009, 11:14 AM
Steve writes great articles. A good number of people on the Source have Premium accounts. There are threads for all of the other Legacy articles; I have no problem with a thread for Steve's Premium article. If you don't have Premium, don't read the article, or try to pick up what you can from the discussion in here.

Star City regularly holds some of the biggest Legacy and Vintage tournaments in the US. They're great supporters of both eternal formats.

Thanks for another article, Steve.

Zilla
09-23-2009, 02:38 PM
We generally don't allow trades/eBay/advertisements on the site, but SCG has been a relatively staunch supporter of Your Source For Legacy.

*fixed*
This would only be "fixed" if it were accurate, which it's not. SCG and The Source have no ties whatsoever, official or otherwise. That said, we respect SCG's contribution to the Legacy community.

To wit: they are the largest event organizer for Legacy tournaments in the United States. Large, competitive tournaments with cash prizes bring attention, new players, and innovation to Legacy. This is good for the format and its community.

If SCG's writers (many of whom are active members of the Legacy community themselves) want to link to their articles here, they are both welcome and encouraged to.

MattH
09-23-2009, 03:11 PM
I wonder what kind of metagame presence Goyf would have to have to attract DCI attention? Does the DCI even look at single-card dominance anymore, or just archetype dominance?

I hate to open this can of worms again but at least it's more on-topic than everything else in this thread so far.

heroicraptor
09-23-2009, 03:16 PM
Can someone at least post what the breakdown is? Isn't this similar to when there's a Premium article that has a decklist, the decklist can be posted?

quicksilver
09-23-2009, 03:26 PM
I wonder what kind of metagame presence Goyf would have to have to attract DCI attention? Does the DCI even look at single-card dominance anymore, or just archetype dominance?

I hate to open this can of worms again but at least it's more on-topic than everything else in this thread so far.

They wouldn't ban goyf even if it was in every single deck.

Zilla
09-23-2009, 03:36 PM
They wouldn't ban goyf even if it was in every single deck.
Clearly, because they haven't and it is. :tongue:

Volt
09-23-2009, 03:46 PM
Good article, although I skipped over the Vintage part. Keep 'em coming, Stephen.

MMogg
09-23-2009, 05:47 PM
I wonder what kind of metagame presence Goyf would have to have to attract DCI attention? Does the DCI even look at single-card dominance anymore, or just archetype dominance?

I think it would take the dominance of a particular deck-type more than archetype. That said, Goyf is used both by (aggro) control and aggro decks but is also limited to those at least splashing green. Legacy top 8 decks continually are wide open and not dominated by one or two deck types, and that's what the DCI strives to achieve.

SilverGreen
09-23-2009, 07:54 PM
Can someone at least post what the breakdown is? Isn't this similar to when there's a Premium article that has a decklist, the decklist can be posted?

Top 16 (http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/deckshow.php?&t[C1]=leg&start_date=2009-09-13&end_date=2009-09-13&event_type=STAL&city=Charlotte) (public information)

Edit:

I had no idea that Goyf was that dominant in this format.Very unsuspected, in fact. Nearly no one plays with this little piece of crap in this format. :wink:

Apex
09-23-2009, 10:34 PM
I'm just sad that there were basically no storm combo decks near the top. It's like combo got hated on by aggro-control, and then the zoo players thought one step further.

I think at the next large legacy event, the field will be different.

And I like reading steve's analysis, he puts alot of work into his articles, and as a stat nerd, I love the graphs :D.

Smmenen
09-24-2009, 01:13 AM
Top 16 (http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/deckshow.php?&t[C1]=leg&start_date=2009-09-13&end_date=2009-09-13&event_type=STAL&city=Charlotte) (public information)

Edit:
Very unsuspected, in fact. Nearly no one plays with this little piece of crap in this format. :wink:

You know what I mean ;)

I mean, I know that there were alot of Goyfs -- but would you have predicted that there were more Goyfs than, say, Force of Wills? Or more Goyfs than, say, Polluted Delta?

FoulQ
09-24-2009, 01:19 AM
Looking at GP:Chicago and similar events, yup.

Most decks packing FoW/Delta also pack Goyf, obviously there are exceptions like merfolk and etc. However, there are countless decks not packing FoW/Delta that also play Goyf.

Smmenen
09-24-2009, 01:37 AM
Looking at GP:Chicago and similar events, yup.

Most decks packing FoW/Delta also pack Goyf, obviously there are exceptions like merfolk and etc. However, there are countless decks not packing FoW/Delta that also play Goyf.

Ok, but would you have predicted that Goyfs were in 48% of the decks in the field?

TorpidNinja
09-24-2009, 09:02 AM
Ok, but would you have predicted that Goyfs were in 48% of the decks in the field?

A common quote you see in any deck discussion is - without exaggeration - some variation of "Needs more 'Goyf" when the designer has failed to auto-include. While I'm not saying that should be a leading indicator (you've got the stats right in front of you, after all) it's certainly telling about the current Legacy environment. Even a cursory glance at the touney data SilverGreen linked - without even looking at the decklists - indicates that combo is either being played very poorly or has no breathing room in this environment; why should Force of Will thrive compared to 'Gofy under such circumstances.

slylie
10-27-2009, 07:13 PM
"Markov Control"

Maindeck:

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4 Bosium Strip

Instants
4 Cabal Ritual
4 Dark Ritual
2 Skeletal Scrying
2 Tendrils Of Corruption

Planeswalkers
3 Sorin Markov


Sorceries
4 Beseech The Queen
4 Damnation
4 Hymn To Tourach
4 Innocent Blood
1 Mutilate
1 Tendrils Of Agony

Basic Lands
23 Swamp
Sideboard:

3 Helm Of Obedience
4 Engineered Plague
4 Leyline Of The Void
4 Duress