Tetsuoooooooo

[keys]

General:

http://magiccards.info/scans/en/lg/302.jpg


Nezumi Graverobber
Trinket Mage
Shadowmage Infiltrator
Dimir Doppelganger
Glen Elendra Archmage
Solemn Simulacrum
Djinn of Wishes
Draining Whelk
Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
Arcanis the Omnipotent
Lim-Dûl the Necromancer


Liliana Vess
Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
Jace, the Mind Sculpter


Hinder
Dismiss
Cryptic Command
Desertion
Reiterate
Swerve


Demonic Tutor
Diabolic Tutor
Vampiric Tutor
Fact or Fiction
Recurring Insight
Skeletal Scrying
Necropotence
Phyrexian Arena
Future Sight
Wheel of Fortune
Mind Over Matter


Bribery
Rite of Replication
Blatant Thievery
Fool's Demise
Cruel Ultimatum
Insurrection
Time Stop
Time Stretch
Memory Plunder
Consuming Vapors
Damnation
Lava Flow
Capsize
Shattering Pulse
Spin Into Myth


Sensei's Divining Top
Expedition Map
Sol Ring
Mana Vault
Darksteel Ingot
Coalition Relic
Gilded Lotus
Everflowing Chalice
Lightning Greaves
Crystal Ball
Bosium Strip
Staff of Domination
Oblivion Stone
Nevinyrral's Disk


Underground Sea
Volcanic Island
Badlands
Steam Vents
Watery Grave
Blood Crypt
Bloodstained Mire
Scalding Tarn
Polluted Delta
Darkslick Shores
Blackcleave Cliffs
Crumbling Necropolis
Jwar Isle Refuge
Akoum Refuge
Sunken Ruins
Graven Cairns
Cascade Bluffs
River of Tears
Drowned Catacomb
Reflecting Pool
Dust Bowl
Strip Mine
Boseiju, Who Shelters All
Minamo, School at Water's Edge
Vesuva
Maze of Ith
Tolaria West
Academy Ruins
Volrath's Stronghold
Bojuka Bog
Reliquary Tower
2 Mountain
2 Swamp
3 Island


How is that for multiplayer control? I would like it to stand up in 1v1 too.

Are cards like Fool's Demise or Lim-Dûl the Necromancer too cute?

Give me your suggestions. TIA

[keys]

Didn't get any comments the first time. Bump?


Here are some other cards I'm considering.

Timetwister
Lim-Dul's Vault
Beacon of Unrest

[Ozymandias]

Kanedaaaaaa!

In seriousness, Rings of Brighthearth is totally worth it for all your activated abilities.

Ways to tap down permanents are also good; Ring of Gix and Icy Manipulator combine very well with Tetsuo.

[keys]

Kanedaaaaaa!

In seriousness, Rings of Brighthearth is totally worth it for all your activated abilities.

Ways to tap down permanents are also good; Ring of Gix and Icy Manipulator combine very well with Tetsuo.

Never considered Rings, good suggestion. I did look at all the tapping abilities, including Puppet Strings, but I think Staff of Domination is best.

[Mystical_Jackass]

Skull Clamp
Journeyer's Kite
Mystic Rimora
Wheel of Fortune
Trinket Mage
Phyrexian Arena

[keys]

Cool I put potential replacements next to each card. What do you think?

[badjuju]

Solid list.

I was talking to Yawg the other day about UBR control, and he introduced me to Bosium Strip. The card is absolutely nuts in anything UB. Otherwise, your list looks pretty close to my Garza Zol (I run some more steal stuff / redirect spells). I'm pretty sure you could easily build a 150 card UBR deck and still not want to cut anything - the colors are just THAT good :tongue:

[keys]

Solid list.

I was talking to Yawg the other day about UBR control, and he introduced me to Bosium Strip. The card is absolutely nuts in anything UB. Otherwise, your list looks pretty close to my Garza Zol (I run some more steal stuff / redirect spells). I'm pretty sure you could easily build a 150 card UBR deck and still not want to cut anything - the colors are just THAT good :tongue:

Yeah I think Strip is better than Mirari

Doppelganger got the nod

Expedition Map > Kite

Also added Bog

[badjuju]

Yeah I think Strip is better than Mirari

I picked Akroma as my one creature win con

Cutpurse got the nod over Shadowmage

Promise of Power > Skeletal Scrying

Expedition Map > Kite

Beacon of Unrest > Slave of Bolas (despite the art...)

Then I threw in Annul over Misdirection and Force of Will. Seems WAY more practical.

Also added Bog

I don't know about Annul over FoW, but definitely over Misdirection. Annul is super underrated in this format, so good choice.

[Benie Bederios]

Isn't Kokusho banned in EDH?

The list looks solid,I only miss Crucible of Worlds.

- Benie

[badjuju]

Isn't Kokusho banned in EDH?

The list looks solid,I only miss Crucible of Worlds.

- Benie

Yea you're right, he is. I totally missed that in his list.

[keys]

Yea you're right, he is. I totally missed that in his list.

Wow I had no idea. I didn't think he was that broken. It's not like Syphon Soul is banned.... I guess I'll sub in Ink-Eyes or maybe Memnarch?


I don't know about Annul over FoW, but definitely over Misdirection. Annul is super underrated in this format, so good choice.

FoW just doesn't seem that appealing me. In order for card disadvantage to be acceptable I think it has to have a huge effect. Maybe Counterspell is better than all three. The free aspect of FoW is a bit trivial when games go so many turns.


Also, Volrath's Stronghold or Academy Ruins? Ruins seems a little more broken with Disk, O-Stone, etc.

[badjuju]

Wow I had no idea. I didn't think he was that broken. It's not like Syphon Soul is banned.... I guess I'll sub in Ink-Eyes or maybe Memnarch?



FoW just doesn't seem that appealing me. In order for card disadvantage to be acceptable I think it has to have a huge effect. Maybe Counterspell is better than all three. The free aspect of FoW is a bit trivial when games go so many turns.


Also, Volrath's Stronghold or Academy Ruins? Ruins seems a little more broken with Disk, O-Stone, etc.

Yea Kokusho is probably just too broken with recursion effects. I don't think he's that bad, but he is on the banlist so whatever.

FoW isn't so much about the disadvantage or tempo, but rather the ability to NOT be cold when you're tapped out. In multiplayer, there are a lot of spells going on, and you can't stop them all. At least with FoW, you can potentially stop more threats than you could without. For the same reasoning I actually run Pact of Negation. Countering game-breaking spells is worth the pain.

Volrath's is only good if you have something to really abuse it with. Even if you can get a good creature back, that's usually not worth the color screw early in the game. Academy Ruins is just dumb, so I would put it in regardless.

[keys]

Updated my Grixis control list. Am I missing anything?

[Mr.C]

Curiosity, for instant-win with Niv-Mizzet in 1v1?