Orders in graveyard

[Maveric78f]

There are some situtations where several cards go to the graveyard at the same time. I'd like to know in which order they are:
- Hymn to tourach: is it the controller of hymn to tourach that decides, are the cards discarded 1 by 1 and the order is defined as follows or is it the owner of the graveyard that decides?
- Stupor: here 2 cards are discarded 1 by 1 in a single spell. I guess that they hit the yard in the order of resolution of the spell (first the one at random, then the one chosen)
- Wrath effect: is it the controller of the spell, the controller of the creatures or the owner of the creatures.
- Intuition: is it the opponent that choses the cards that go to the yard or the controller of Intuition?
- Millstone: are they going to the yard in the same order as they were on the library, is it the controller of the library or is it the controller of the millstone that decides?

Thanks.

[Van Phanel]

Whenever multiple cards go into a graveyard at the same time the player whose graveyard is affected gets to choose the order of those cards. This leaves only the exception of Stupor where the instructions are executed in the written order.

[anonymos]

Van pretty much said it. I'm going to add one thing to it. If the spell puts things into your graveyard (potentially wrath and definitely intuition), the spell puts the stuff into your graveyard THEN the spell itself goes to your graveyard.

Sorry, I'm one of those old-fashioned interrupts people who learned to play when graveyard order mattered and wasn't allowed to be manipulated by the rules.

[Dark_Shakuras]

Van pretty much said it. I'm going to add one thing to it. If the spell puts things into your graveyard (potentially wrath and definitely intuition), the spell puts the stuff into your graveyard THEN the spell itself goes to your graveyard.

Sorry, I'm one of those old-fashioned interrupts people who learned to play when graveyard order mattered and wasn't allowed to be manipulated by the rules.

I think thats still the case correct? It's something like if you play cards that care, you must not reorder, while if you don't, it doesn't matter?

[hjalte]

I think thats still the case correct? It's something like if you play cards that care, you must not reorder, while if you don't, it doesn't matter?

Actually it's more restrictive. If you play in a format, where cards that care are legal, then you must not reorder. That means that the order is only relevant in legacy and vintage (At least, I'm not sure about Extended)

[cdr]

3.13 Graveyard Order
In formats involving only cards from Urza’s Saga™ and later, players may change the order of their graveyard at any time. When looking at an opponent’s graveyard, a player may not change the order.

Extended is fine. I think Volrath's Shapeshifter was the last card that cared about graveyard order.