Why is Undiscovered Paradise suddenly so expensive?

[Race War]

I'm guessing Landfall has effected it's desirability, but are casual players that interested? It is selling for around $15+ each on ebay. 2-3 weeks ago you could pick up a set for less than $15. And apparently in France, it's going for even more (http://cgi.ebay.com/Undiscovered-Paradise-Paradis-Inconnu-MTG-Hot-NO-Mox_W0QQitemZ270488044113QQcmdZViewItemQQptZFR_JG_Collections_Cartes_de_Collection?hash=item3efa580251).

[Bryant Cook]

You guys can thank me later.

[Piceli89]

I'd say bloodghast dredge, not TES at all.

[Bryant Cook]

I'd say bloodghast dredge, not TES at all.

Must you ruin everything? I know it's your birthday and all but HOLY FUCK.


-Happy Birthday

[Piceli89]

Thank you. It seems that Americans pay attention to birthdays. You are the second who realizes it's today.




God bless Americans.

[AngryTroll]

Did Goyf spike in price recently? It's back up to $60 at StarCityGames. Is it because of the Legacy events in 2010? Is he good in Extended? I feel like he was down to around $35 for a while.

[whiteshepherdman]

yes you're right, this summer he was just 35 at starcity, after zendikar prices are going nuts for some wierd reason... just use baneslayer as a meter

[MMogg]

Did Goyf spike in price recently? It's back up to $60 at StarCityGames. Is it because of the Legacy events in 2010? Is he good in Extended? I feel like he was down to around $35 for a while.

Holy shit! That's just ridiculous for an extended legal card to be up at $60! :eek:

[TheInfamousBearAssassin]

It had been down, yeah. But Legacy is getting bigger and Extended is starting to come back into focus. The price was only temporarily lowered as T2 players were unloading theirs when Alara was rotating in, but that's a year ago now.

[pw709]

Did Goyf spike in price recently? It's back up to $60 at StarCityGames. Is it because of the Legacy events in 2010? Is he good in Extended? I feel like he was down to around $35 for a while.

No, it's not good in Extended, you are imagining things.

...

What's Extended anyway?

[DukeDemonKn1ght]

Holy fuck... That's what I get for thinking I could slack off on getting Tarmogoyfs and wait for a price drop. I mean they ARE gonna drop when it rotates out of Extended presumably, right???

[[SLAYER]chaos]

I feel really good for getting my goyfs at under 30 each.

[whiteshepherdman]

by 5 dollars? when extended rotates out- if you want to wait that long that is. =D

[MMogg]

I definitely think Goyf is an anomaly to the norm. I hope he gets reprinted over and over and over again, because I think that's the only way he's going to go down at all. I'm with DDK, I had been waiting until they went down, but now I'm not so sure. Silly me thought $30 was crazy, and now this.

I remember back in the day Undiscovered Paradise was a $15 card, and then it fell off the map, and now it's back. I don't think too many cards get new life that often, but it has been kind of a trend lately, hasn't it? Grindstone, Natural Order, Dark Depths, etc. all used to be mediocre and now have double digit prices. I just can't get my head around the fact that Cursed Scroll is a $6.00 card, Masticore $5 and Morphling about $9.00. I'm stuck in the year 2000 when those cards were bombs.

[atropos]

When did Tarmogoyf get so expensive? I feel like I just checked prices on magiccards.info quite recently and it was around $35 or so. Insanity.

[beastman]

I got my goyfs for 5 bucks for the set. Sucks to be you guys.

[Citrus-God]

I got my goyfs for 5 bucks for the set. Sucks to be you guys.

Word. My teammate and I got 3 sets for 5 bucks each. Really sucks to be you unbelievers and skeptics.

It was even more satisfying beating hectics I knew at a tournament. Goyf had had some exposure to being good, and I thrashed the hell out of this Landstill deck piloted by a skeptic thanks to Goyfs. I mean, fucking thrash. We even had a point in the game where I had one Goyf as a blocker against an army of Monasteries.

[MMogg]

I got my goyfs for 5 bucks for the set. Sucks to be you guys.

Lhurgoyfs, that is. :wink:

[whiteshepherdman]

They're never going to reprint goyf... i don't know how many people have to say this before people stop saying it but they've already said that goyf was a mistake.. personally i hate goyf, thats why i play everything non-goyf: landstill, tendrils, and solidarity- my anti-goyf

[Jak]

And I thought I was mad when I should have gotten them for dirt cheap way back when and I got them for $30 instead. Kind of makes me feel better now.

[Guevera59]

So does this mean that having two playsets and only having to pay a total of 50 bucks is a good thing? :tongue:

[caiomarcos]

I got my BL in a booster. I win.

Seriously, every week this magic themed dick measuring discussion of who got their goyfs cheaper comes up. Aren't you tired of that?

I'll wait for it to get banned so I don't have to spend 60 bucks on it. Until them I'll keep playing Belcher.

Why, after rotating out of extended and standard, should goyf be allowed in the format it ruins the most?

Back to the discussion, I'm sure Undiscovered Paradise will be back to reasonable prices after everyone realizes how bad bloodghast is. This instant spike in price is people rushing and trying not to lose money on what could be the next Dreadnought or Grindstone. Fortunately Undiscovered Paradise is neither.

[Kangaxx]

Lhurgoyfs, that is. :wink:

I believe him. I remember when FS first came out and foil Goyfs were going for $5 a peice at SCG.com for like 3 weeks strait.

@Goyf being good in Extended - They're starting to gain a lot more popularity in Vintage as well.

[ParkerLewis]

Why, after rotating out of extended and standard, should goyf be allowed in the format it ruins the most?

Because that has asolutely zero to do with how the bannings are decided ?

[SilverGreen]

They're never going to reprint goyf... i don't know how many people have to say this before people stop saying it but they've already said that goyf was a mistake.So wait until they announce From the Vault: Lhurgoyfs, with premium Tarmogoyfs in a new art by Rebecca Guay & John Avon.

[Nihil Credo]

So wait until they announce From the Vault: Lhurgoyfs, with premium Tarmogoyfs in a new art by Rebecca Guay & John Avon.
There's a secretary at Hasbro who is wondering in alarm why her boss's cock has suddenly begun fucking her mouth twice as hard.

[Ectoplasm]

they've already said that goyf was a mistake

I keep reading this, but I've never seen any confirmation of it. Could someone spill the beans? :rolleyes:

[Nessaja]

some youtube interview with Maro, but "mistake" is a summary of what he said really - more that they probably wouldn't have printed it like this in retrospect.

[Ectoplasm]

some youtube interview with Maro, but "mistake" is a summary of what he said really - more that they probably wouldn't have printed it like this in retrospect.

Could someone link this? :D Thanks

[Nessaja]

I dont have it bookmarked or anything. It was in one of those gazilion ban goyf topics.

[Deviruchi]

It was also mentioned in one of Evan Erwin videos (interview with a creator of goyf and info that it was supposed to be 1GG).

[Happy Gilmore]

I got my goyfs for 5 bucks for the set. Sucks to be you guys.


I beat all of you $22 total for a foil set (4 individual transactions), 10 for regular off starcity. I should have bought them all thought, thats my only regret.


There's a secretary at Hasbro who is wondering in alarm why her boss's cock has suddenly begun fucking her mouth twice as hard.

+1 for hilarity

+2 for being a Mod

[santeria]

It was also mentioned in one of Evan Erwin videos (interview with a creator of goyf and info that it was supposed to be 1GG).

yeah, but again, does anyone actually have a link to this or anything else. for a hundred years now I've seen every anti-goyfer say the card was a mistake and nobody can ever manage to come up with any proof. just a lot of talking out of each others asses.

[umbowta]

How did you guys turn a question about the increase in undiscovered paradise into another stupid goyf thread. :tongue:

You should have picked up Undiscovered Paradise and Ghost Town as soon as the landfall mechanic turned out to be good. The demand curve just shifted, and the price is going up. Enjoy.

[MattH]

You should have picked up Undiscovered Paradise and Ghost Town as soon as the landfall mechanic turned out to be good.

When did this happen? Outside of, like, limited.

[umbowta]

When did this happen? Outside of, like, limited.

Yeah, Bloodghast and Steppe lynx are kind of limited but they're good enough and fun enough to drive up the price of a rare most people have thrown in the trash, further increasing the rarity, in this crazy old game of paper crack...I mean Magic.

[Mr.C]

Seriously, every week this magic themed dick measuring discussion of who got their goyfs cheaper comes up. Aren't you tired of that?

I got my recruiters when they were quarters. Har har har.

But, seriously, has anyone seen legacy cards go down in price? I mean, Grindstone is not a Tier-1 card, and it's $20. Dark Depths is $20. NO is $15 (this one is tier1, i guess). Heck, Reset is still ~$15, and Solidarity is what, Tier-10 now?

I think Undiscovered will be $15 for a long, long time. Maybe down to $10, but not below. Hope everyone has theirs.

[yawg07]

Dark Depths is an Extended card that is sharing it's wealth with Legacy.

[Occam]

I got my recruiters when they were quarters. Har har har.

But, seriously, has anyone seen legacy cards go down in price? I mean, Grindstone is not a Tier-1 card, and it's $20. Dark Depths is $20. NO is $15 (this one is tier1, i guess). Heck, Reset is still ~$15, and Solidarity is what, Tier-10 now?

I think Undiscovered will be $15 for a long, long time. Maybe down to $10, but not below. Hope everyone has theirs.

I love this game.

I passed up a summer Serendib Efreet for less than 1k about 10years ago. I guess I win.

It haunts me to this day.

[dahcmai]

You don't even want me to get into the "stupid good deals" discussion. I think I could top just about everything. I'm damned near psychic it seems on accident.


Though I do admit the worst one. I remember the metal Bird of Paradise on Ebay and I passed on it since I had no clue what it was and I set my limit to $100 for it. It sold for 101.00 of course. I remember seeing the Metal Fork also.

I passed on a stack of Lotus artist proofs also since at the time they were practically worthless. It was a large enough stack to be all of them.

[Occam]

While the metal cards cost quite a bit today, I wouldn't make any offers for them (even though I was tempted by the Hurloon Minotaur which moved within the last year) because it is reasonably easy to make fakes of those, and the questionable quality of the originals makes it hard to tell anyway.

I'm going to seek to correct my mistake regarding the efreet soon. It's going to hurt the wallet. :(

[Nihil Credo]

I've never heard of these metal cards, and Googling them in various phrases misdirects towars different card games. What are they?

[Occam]

I've never heard of these metal cards, and Googling them in various phrases misdirects towars different card games. What are they?

They're basically test prints (and I use this phrase very loosely, because they weren't really test prints) that were etched in metal (aluminum I believe). Some have a much neater finish (something like Pickle's shivan) and seem to be factory made while others look messy and relatively amateurish. The latter are legit even though they can look fake, as I know that some Wizards employees had them previously. The problem is telling a fake apart from the real thing, and it isn't something I want to bet $1.5k-$2k on.

There are several of them -- birds (good shout for the most expensive birds around), bolt, shivan, fork, hurloon minotaur, dragon whelp etc.

[donaldB]

Whoa, when did this happen? I just got a playset of Undiscovered Paradises on the 7th for 20$ on ebay, and that was after the release of zendikar.

[andrew77]

Whoa, when did this happen? I just got a playset of Undiscovered Paradises on the 7th for 20$ on ebay, and that was after the release of zendikar.

Probably has something to do with bad players playing bad cards (bloodghast) in bad decks (bloodghast dredge). It also received a lot of hype. I mean it did well at SCG 5k. Guess nobody read the tourny report where it shows the deck faced no hate. You can take an extended dredge deck and it will win if it doesn't face hate.

[Tangle.Wire]

I definitely think Goyf is an anomaly to the norm. I hope he gets reprinted over and over and over again, because I think that's the only way he's going to go down at all. I'm with DDK, I had been waiting until they went down, but now I'm not so sure. Silly me thought $30 was crazy, and now this.

I remember back in the day Undiscovered Paradise was a $15 card, and then it fell off the map, and now it's back. I don't think too many cards get new life that often, but it has been kind of a trend lately, hasn't it? Grindstone, Natural Order, Dark Depths, etc. all used to be mediocre and now have double digit prices. I just can't get my head around the fact that Cursed Scroll is a $6.00 card, Masticore $5 and Morphling about $9.00. I'm stuck in the year 2000 when those cards were bombs.

You said it :cool:

[HAVE HEART]

It was also mentioned in one of Evan Erwin videos (interview with a creator of goyf and info that it was supposed to be 1GG).

It was also 2G at one point as well, not to mention */*, not */1+*. Then Mike Turian said it would not be that bad to make it the way it is now. It was in the Evan Erwin interview with R&D: Kenny Nagle, Mike Turian, and Mark Rosewater.

[keys]

It was also 2G at one point as well, not to mention */*, not */1+*. Then Mike Turian said it would not be that bad to make it the way it is now. It was in the Evan Erwin interview with R&D: Kenny Nagle, Mike Turian, and Mark Rosewater.

Link?

[HAVE HEART]

Link?

Just do a YouTube search.

[Phoenix Ignition]

Just do a YouTube search.

I just tried, with all three of their names, tarmogoyf, and creation, in every possible combination. If you have a link it would be appreciated.